N400QX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (12 years 9 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1169 times:
He is a good president (just look at how the Europeans were pleasantly surprised with him recently), but he is drifting way too far to the left and his tax cut was miniscule. We need someone who will make some real change and get our Federal government in the right direction again- down.
Alpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (12 years 9 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1142 times:
No one can say with any degree of certainty that Bush has done a "good" or "bad" job. He's only been in office for 5 months. That's not enough time to judge him with any certainty.
A few observations: As a "CEO", if you will, I think Clinton is a far better manager of the Presidency than Mr. Bush. He put seemed more engaged in the job that Mr. Bush. I think he understood most of the issues in much more detail then Mr. Bush.
If you talk about personal traits, then Mr. Bush does win hands down. That is very important, but it's not the be-all to the presidency, as many Republicans wanted you to believe during the election. And there certainly was no mandate for the Republicans, with a divided election across the board.
I don't think you can really judge a president at all until after at least 2 years of his first term. And most historians, be they liberal or conservative, will tell you it can take up to 30 years to judge the impact of one's presidency, and if it was a good or bad one.
I'm not a fan of Mr. Bush. I think he was a wolf in sheep's skin, passing himself off as this fuzzy "comassionate conservative', when in fact he's as coldly conservative as guys like Tom Delay and Jesse Helms. Yet I'm not ready to say he's either a bad or good leader. He needs more time to put his stamp on the office.
Superfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 16, posted (12 years 9 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1129 times:
JetService, that was hilarious!
N400QX is in Washington which is a Democratic state anyway so he can write himself in for all I care.
Alpha1 you do raise a good point. If there was a mandate of any kind it would be in favor of the Democrats.
Al Gore won the popular vote and the Democrats picked up 5 Senate seatswhich wasn't brought here in the forums. Also the Democrats picked up more seat in the House. Also the Democrats gained a Governors seat. Bush's little brother had to rig the election for Bush to win.
Alpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (12 years 9 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1125 times:
Superfly, I don't think EITHER party got a mandate. I think the country like a divided government, simply because, in a wierd way, it makes them work harder to get something done, instead of just playing every-day politics.
And yes, Gore won the popular vote, but did in fact lose the election because of the incredible race in Floirda. He may become the first candidate to run two elections in a row since, who? Adalai Stevenson? (major party candidate, that is).
L-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29699 posts, RR: 59
Reply 22, posted (12 years 9 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1107 times:
He seems to be doing a good job.
Again I point out that it is really really funny that all of those European countries are bitchin that he pulled out of Kyoto. The only one that has a right to bitch about that is Romania....that is because the are the only ones to actually sign it.
OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
GunFighter 6 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2001, 404 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (12 years 9 months 4 weeks ago) and read 1095 times:
Its my opinion that americans are a poor judge of character.
Bush is an arrogant man that only cares about power.
i cant really understeand why he was chosen.
perhaps because their was no better choice, cause gore was equally bad.
Bush unfortunately is not the only man who is chosen by dumb people.
take the mayor of Providence for example. that man is a criminal and everybody knows this, but still they vote for him. thats weird you know.
: I keep hearing you Euro-folks whine about Bush and Kyoto, but I don't hear one thing about your own countries ratifying it. For the sake of anyone who
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: JetService: Rumania. The rest apparently are for it, butwill only sign it if the U.S. signs this flawed treaty.
: The reason why Bush rejected it was because it was ineffective since no countries had signed it. As for rejecting new arsenic standards, who knows...
: How come we don't hear you folks complaining that Australia threw out the Kyoto treaty? That was a joke of a treaty. Even the Democrats threw it out.
: >N400QX is in Washington which is a Democratic state anyway so he can write himself in for all I care Yes, you're right... It was 55%-40% in favor of
: He is doing a good job except for the environment.
: Ignorant conservatives don't even realize that arsenic can kill them. WHO CARES WHO WROTE THEM AND WHEN!!! It is never too late to put in new standard
: This treaty stuff is a smokescreen, most EU nations will reach targets for C02 emissions, the UK certainly will, easily. The US, with 4% of the world'
: Tupolev, that is why the left gets away with scare tactics, because of simpletons like you. Arsenic kills! AHHHHHHH!!!!!! Read the bill and see what t
: Don't call me a left-wing. I am a moderate who despises tree-huggers as much as the ultra-right.
: As long as he doesn't bomb us or get us in a war I'm fine with him being president. Erik
: Bush is terrible. His rightist agenda is alienating moderates in the republican party. Bush, Delay and other rightist scum are throwing the whole part
: Tupolev, I didn't call you a leftie. I said you were simplistic. And the left can scare you with only half the story.
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: JetService said: "And the left can scare you with only half the story." ROTFL! And the right can't my friend? They do it all the time. That's definite
: I think the real answer is WE DON'T KNOW YET. Lets wait until his term(s) in office are over and then decide.
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: I have some serious questions concerning the perfoirmance of President Bush so far. Particularily on the following issues: 1) Patients Bill of Rights-
: Popular vote doesn't matter, only the electoral college counts. Check the Constitution.
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: The constitution also says that everyone should own a gun. Quick fact>>>>>>>>>>>>> -In Japan, they have strict gun laws, and as a result, had no death
: Every state gets two Senators, thus two electoral votes. As for the difference in Representatives, it is based on the "Equal Representation clause" Ea
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: Why does a state get electoral votes just for having two senators? They all have two senators, so, again, it's unequal representation by population. W
: JetService, sorry for the misunderstanding. And no, Bush did not have the mandate of the people. But still, the law is the law and you couldn't change
: At least he has everyone talking about politics instead of antics. I don't feel the US is a laughing-stock anymore.
: John Edwards Thank god a Californian is worth a third of what a Wyomingian(???) is. Just look at how screwed up California is? Do we want to rest of t
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: L-188, It is foolish to think that a few examples, such as the subway attack and the school stabbing, show that Japan is just as bad as the U.S., even
: It is even more foolish to think that one static from you show how bad the US is..... Who are you really????
: To those who keep saying that the tax cuts were pro-business, last I heard there have been no tax cuts for businesses - only for individuals. Bush als
51 R.I.P TWA
: Personally, I could care less about Bush and his policies. I prefer an ineffective president, and a Grid-locked congress (with the exception of a Libe
: Remember, it was Kenneth Starr and his republican scum who made the country a laughing stock. The rest of the world said that they couldn't care less
53 Matt D
: To all of you Bush haters out there: If Mr Dubya decided to get some "head" in the Oval Office by a 23 year old, would that solve your problems? Why n
: Bush is a horrible president, in my opinion atleast.