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User currently offlineUTA_flyinghigh From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 6495 posts, RR: 50
Posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 6035 times:

So if you
- fantasize about R34's, Evo's and STi's
- know the other definition of LSD
- look for the racing line when going to the grocery store
- think "chipping" has nothing to do with wood
- are quicker when the roads are slippery

Post here !

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User currently offlineKDTWFlyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 828 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 6034 times:

Was just admiring the square values for the Dodge Viper... 500hp AND 500 ft. lbs. of torque... What a beast!

http://www.dodge.com/gallery/img/viper/enlarge_8.jpg



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User currently offlineAerorobnz From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 7184 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 6026 times:

Yep, I fit all bar the first category. I'm an Italian Car fanatic in particular.

User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 3, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 6017 times:

Ok UTA. Get the impression you like French and Italian cars - Which do you prefer?

Citroen v Renault v Peugeot
Alfa v Lancia v Fiat
Ferrari v Maserati v Lambo

Citroen, Alfa and Maserati for me (I'm thinking past cars here, nit just new ones).



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User currently offlineUTA_flyinghigh From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 6495 posts, RR: 50
Reply 4, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 6014 times:

Quoting Cornish (Reply 3):
Which do you prefer?

Citroen v Renault v Peugeot
Citroen all the way.
Renault's styling has been ludicrous lately.
Peugeot has nice vehicles but doesn't have that je ne sais quoi of Citroen cars.

Alfa v Lancia v Fiat
Alfa, Alfa, Alfa !
I owned two 33's and one 155 and the past and would gladly go back to the marque.
Lancia produced great cars in the past (Delta HF INtegrale, Thema 8.32 to name a couple) but sadly are almost extinct now as their current lineup is farce.
What I think of Fiap is   

Ferrari v Maserati v Lambo
Definitely Maserati. Their latest Quattroporte is a work of art and their GT is awesome.
Lamborghini's are great but are they still Italian ?
Ferraris are overpriced and overhyped IMHO.

UTA   

[Edited 2005-04-08 11:11:38]


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User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 5, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 6016 times:

Quoting UTA_flyinghigh (Reply 4):
Alfa, Alfa, Alfa !
I owned two 33's and one 155 and the past and would gladly go back to the marque.

My boss who is a car nut (he even has an original mini Moke) drives one of the pre-facelift Alfa 164s. Still looks fantastic in red and stands out against a lot of other supposedly newer and nicer cars in our car park.

Quoting UTA_flyinghigh (Reply 4):
Definitely Maserati. Their latest Quattroporte is a work of art and their GT is awesome.

I have to drive past the Maranello garage at Egham on the way to and from work. Full of extremely flash Ferraris (including the odd Enzo and the likes) but it is the Quattroportes that catch my eye every time. As you say - Truely beautiful.

As for Lancia - they need to build that pretty Fulvia concept - fast.



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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24923 posts, RR: 56
Reply 6, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 6011 times:

You just cannot beat the Ford Mondeo  Wink


When you hear the noise of the Tartan Army Boys, we'll be coming down the road!
User currently offlineUTA_flyinghigh From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 6495 posts, RR: 50
Reply 7, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 6007 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 6):
You just cannot beat the Ford Mondeo

Especially the SW version as it can contain at least two sheep.

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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24923 posts, RR: 56
Reply 8, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 6006 times:

Quoting UTA_flyinghigh (Reply 7):
Especially the SW version as it can contain at least two sheep.

Thon sheeps jokes are older than your mother now!



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User currently offlineUTA_flyinghigh From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 6495 posts, RR: 50
Reply 9, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 6001 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 8):
Thon sheeps jokes are older than your mother now!

Yet still so true  Wink

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User currently offlineKay From France, joined Mar 2002, 1884 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 5993 times:

I am all of that list except item number 1, don't fancy too much souped up sedans, I much prefer genuine sports cars. However, for the last 6 years, and about to change soon, this has subtituted nicely:




One day I'll be the proud owner of either this (ok guys, same picture):


Or, if the above is too hard to find in a good condition, than this:

http://www.pictures-of-cars.com/PCGB2003/image/img_000095.jpg


And I can't wait
Kay


PS: I kinow that geocities didn't allow linking out pictures, but the post confirmation did show the picture (first one) this time. If the real thing is different then sorry.


User currently offlineUTA_flyinghigh From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 6495 posts, RR: 50
Reply 11, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 5986 times:

Quoting Kay (Reply 10):
One day I'll be the proud owner of either this (ok guys, same picture):


Or, if the above is too hard to find in a good condition, than this:

Kay, no disrespect an no dissing you or anything, but have you already driven a 911 ?

I drove a 93 Carrera 2 (964) and a 96 Carrera 2 (993) and was unimpressed at the handling compared to an NSX or a 512TR.

Strong points are the brakes though, no fading after repeated laps of Magione -pretty good for a road car.

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User currently offlineKay From France, joined Mar 2002, 1884 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 5981 times:

The 512TR....... Last week I was in the Uban looking down on Gurtel Street in Vienna and had this red 512TR in my sight for some 2 or 3 minutes, I was reminded how much of an eye candy it is, this car was really the top of the curve for the Testarossa, it was also a very fundamental change in handling and engine, not just body changes. And it looks so much better than the F512M!!!!!! mm wait, there:



Quoting UTA_flyinghigh (Reply 11):
Kay, no disrespect an no dissing you or anything, but have you already driven a 911 ?

Once in a Monterey autocross, I sat next to a friend in his 993 for a few laps, and was very disappointed, but that's because I had just done a few laps in a Nissan 300ZX 415bhp. There is no comparison in sound and performance, and that is why the 993 seemed a bit shallow. However, I had driven a 1983 911 SC, maybe it's too old, but it was definitely a lot of fun to drive. The handling will always seem a bit difficult in a 911 at first. Maybe one shouldn't venture too much if not confident, however, the car's palmarès speaks for itself, meaning it is an excellent car if the driver/car combination is right. But I haven't driven other 911's. But it can't be that bad!


Kay

[Edited 2005-04-08 12:39:59]

User currently offlineL410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5694 posts, RR: 18
Reply 13, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 5977 times:

I'd love to own one of these:

http://www.hf-integrale.co.uk/images/lhfmarcus.jpg


LANCIA DELTA HF INTEGRALE


btw, does anyone remeber predecessor of the HF Integrale? Delta S4 - the raw beast from the golden days of Rallye (1986):







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User currently offlineUTA_flyinghigh From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 6495 posts, RR: 50
Reply 14, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 5977 times:

Quoting Kay (Reply 12):
But it can't be that bad!

I never said it was bad, it's just that I would envision other choices if I had that sort of disposable income.

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User currently offlineAerorobNZ From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 7184 posts, RR: 13
Reply 15, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 5974 times:

Quoting UTA_flyinghigh (Reply 4):
Ferraris are overpriced and overhyped IMHO.

Burn in Hell O evil spawn of Satan!!  Wink I can't undertand why you do not say the same for Lamborghini, BMW or any other big name marque which all suffer from media overhype - even though they are the best sports cars . The only thing I don't like about Ferrari are the reporters that insist that every day usability and cheap parts are important when choosing a supercar/exotic so award it by default to the just as overrated porsches. I mean for goodness sake, if you can afford to buy a Ferrari you can afford to pay fuel,maintenance,insurance & parts too. If they can't, then they should just stick with Toyotas and Hondas as all of it makes it part of owning any supercar.


User currently offlineKay From France, joined Mar 2002, 1884 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 5974 times:

Quoting UTA_flyinghigh (Reply 14):
I never said it was bad, it's just that I would envision other choices if I had that sort of disposable income.

They are expensive indeed. Now one could pay his a$$ off for a 911, but what scares me is the maintenance. Anytime someone is driving a 911 (say from the 90's and on), it means he is paying 5000 Euros a year on maintenance and fixing only. Maybe even more?...

That is why I seriously wonder when will it ever make sense. As a second choice, maybe BMW still comes next, just because I like reliable rear wheel drive "sportscars" (more or less). There are exceptions. I won't lie to you, I am actually looking closely at the new 200bhp Golf GTI because my first car was a Golf GTI...

Would like to hear your opinion.

Kay


User currently offlineUTA_flyinghigh From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 6495 posts, RR: 50
Reply 17, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 5970 times:

Quoting Kay (Reply 16):
I won't lie to you, I am actually looking closely at the new 200bhp Golf GTI because my first car was a Golf GTI...

I tes-drove iit, it indeed restores much of the original GTI's character but is too overweight/overpriced IMHO.

If you're looking at bang-for-the-buck you should consider the Renault Megane RS, 225 HP of turbochaged power (meaning that you can fit a mean chip to it). That again is FWD though.

If I were you I would look at a clean pre-owned S4 or S3, especially for Austria which has a harsh winter climate.

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User currently offlineKay From France, joined Mar 2002, 1884 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 5969 times:

L410Turbolet,

That Lancia came right after the Lancia Rallye 037. It actually was a great success but they lost the title that year to Jean Todt's Peugeot 205, most probably because the death of Henri Toivonen in Tour de Corse in a Delta S4 gave a huge blow to the team.



The Lancia Rallye is very beautiful.

By the way, there is a significant difference between the first pic you posted (red delta hf) and the second (two white ones). I remember clearly that the one with front lights of different sizes was a bit older (type 3??), whereas the ones with front lights of equal size were significantly "hotter", type 4 or 5 or smthg, don't remember the details though.
Kay


User currently offlineL410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5694 posts, RR: 18
Reply 19, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5952 times:

Kay,
I was only 10 in 1986 and, as you can imagine, the coverage of motorsports was back then limited to one weekly and one biweekly car-related magazine and once in a while some spots in TV so my knowledge is only sligthly more than superficial.
But I remeber that the mid-80s was the era of Austin Metros, 205s, Lancia Deltas and Ford RS200s. The last one I belive had a series of quite a few nasty accidents when the car just flew into fans and killed a number of them. If I'm correct FIA introduced some restrictions on these cars because they were just overpowered unleashed hell. And that's when the HF came into scene.


User currently offlineUTA_flyinghigh From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 6495 posts, RR: 50
Reply 20, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5950 times:

Quoting L410Turbolet (Reply 19):
If I'm correct FIA introduced some restrictions on these cars because they were just overpowered unleashed hell

You're obviously referring to the overpowered Group B vehicles.

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User currently offlineSebolino From France, joined May 2001, 3681 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5942 times:

Quoting UTA_flyinghigh (Reply 4):
Citroen all the way.
Renault's styling has been ludicrous lately.
Peugeot has nice vehicles but doesn't have that je ne sais quoi of Citroen cars.

This one has a bit of "je ne sais quoi" in addition of the 500 hp  Smile :





User currently offlineUTA_flyinghigh From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 6495 posts, RR: 50
Reply 22, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5939 times:

Quoting Sebolino (Reply 21):
This one has a bit of "je ne sais quoi" in addition of the 500 hp :

LOL !

I was referring to standard production cars, no concept vehicles Big grin

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User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 35
Reply 23, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5920 times:

I had a 1988 Peugeot 309 GTI for a couple of years when I lived in Germany. WOW!!!  bouncy  What a ride! That car was unbelievable! I don't remember how many ponies it had (only 135hp, but I could be mistaken), regardless it was one fierce ride on the Autobahn. And cornering, the faster you went around the corners, the more it wanted, it rode like it was on rails.

Sadly I had to get rid of it because the TUV expired and to get it back up to speed was just too much money for me at the time.

This is my ride now in Canada...

4.6L V8, 260hp, rear wheel drive, 0-100km/h in 5.6 seconds and a sound that makes you wet your pants. Only problem with it is that it has your typical US style suspension (read...useless) and the build quality is what one would expect from a US car manufacturer.  Sad None the less I love to drive it, especially with the traction contol off.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39831 posts, RR: 74
Reply 24, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5911 times:

http://www.imperialclub.com/Yr/1975/Brochure/Page13.jpg

http://www.imperialclub.com/Yr/1975/Brochure/Page03.jpg


http://www.imperialclub.com/Yr/1975/Brochure/Page08-09.jpg



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25 Post contains links and images ScottishLaddie : You haven't lived until you have atleast heard the noise the NSX makes! Or until you have felt the speed of this machine: Nice seats too.
26 Post contains links and images Kay : I was 11 But we had quite a few shows, most notably the French show "Auto Moto". I used to read magazines too... ahh that age... That car followed wa
27 Post contains images Erikwilliam : I drive a Citroen Xsara VTS, wich is the sport version of the Xsara, and can tell U, it´s an amazing car for what it costs, I even installed a chip
28 Post contains links and images PHLBOS : I could go on and on.
29 Jutes85 : I thought this was a perfect place to ask this question: I'm currently in the process of hunting for a car. I've narrowed my selection down to a 02-03
30 Post contains images TriStarEnvy : That sound you hear is 'Fly drooling.....hell, me, too!!!!
31 Post contains images BAW2198 : Mine might be old, but nothing beats a Z [Edited 2005-04-12 00:20:05]
32 Aerobalance : With no anti-dive or anti-squat geometry built in those things are a handful... no thanks.... give me a car that does not change pitch attitude when
33 Post contains images MD-90 : I always thought that this one was a stunner, a NSX convertible (yes, I know they never made one, but the pic sure looks nice).
34 Post contains images Springbok747 : I'm happy with what I drive: But I'd love to own one of these..hmm..maybe someday when I win the lotto.
35 Delta767300ER : I'm a muscle car man myself however I like a variety of cars. Here are a few of my favorite newer American cars: -Chevrolet Corvette C6 -Chevrolet Cor
36 Post contains images VonRichtofen : ACDC8 Nice stang!!  Where's ANCFlyer's BAFDT when you need it? LOL Kris[Edited 2005-04-12 05:48:38]
37 Airlinerfreak : I know the question was not directed at me but I would like to answer it. I would first choose the Alfa Romeo because that is just a true classic no
38 Aerorobnz : My top cars are all Italian... F360CS F430M Quattroporte F275GTB F550M other less expensive cars that rate a mention Renault Clio 182 Cup Smart Roadst
39 Post contains links and images Theredbaron : I am fortunate to have 4 very large auto related forums in Mexico and get to drive a ton of cars here is some pics of our last comparative: Audi RS4,
40 Post contains images N1120A : Well, while 2 wheel drive 911s are fun and a nice challenge, you should really drive the car that constantly wins handling contests, the Carrera 4. N
41 Post contains images ScottishLaddie : Clearly you are one of the people who haven't heard it. It's not the fastest car out there, but I wouldn't call it's speed inadequate It sure sounds
42 N1120A : Of course I have heard them. You want awesome, an F550, a Supra Turbo, any BMW straight 6, a Ford Mustang, those are awesome sounding cars Adequate i
43 MD-90 : The NSX is outdated, though. A Nissan Maxima now has almost the power of the original NSX.
44 Kay : I have to disagree there. The 993 GT2, RS, as well as the 996 GT2/GT3 and GT3 RS, are all beasts with track setup that handle perfectly for race driv
45 Post contains images ScottishLaddie : They're all nice sounding cars, clearly we have different taste, because the NSX still tops that lot. Although the Mustang is an altogether different
46 N1120A : My M3 that cost half as much new (less because I got mine 4 years old) does 172 (E36). Just as reliable too.
47 Post contains images WunalaYann : The Mégane RS has lost all the comparo-test against the Golf GTi here in France. The double-wishbone front suspension does not cut it. Not enough fe
48 Post contains images ScottishLaddie : Ah, but it's a BMW.
49 Post contains images N1120A : I agree completely. Sure, but I am simply talking about the standard Carrera 4, non-turbo, which constantly gets rave reviews. Yep, The Ultimate Driv
50 Post contains links Airplanepics : I shot this picture last Friday at Earls Court: http://www.londonaviation.co.uk/Bentley.jpg Absoloutly stunning car.... Cheers, Simon
51 Flight152 : The problem with sport BMWs in general is that their braking system is definitely not up to par with their awesome engines. Non-slotted twin-piston ca
52 CaptOveur : Back when rallys were faster and the crowds were closer... Rally is still the best form of auto racing and the one I would most love to try someday.
53 N1120A : Every BMW I have had (ranging from a 1985 318i to my current M3) has had excelent brakes, especially the M. Nothing but stopping power Yes, and while
54 Flight152 : As a small side note, BMW will offer a traditional 6-speed manual in 2007 with the M5, where all 2006 models will only have the SMG.
55 Airlinerfreak : One day you and I gotta talk we have the exact same likings in cars, it is quite fascinating. Quattroporte is a great car, finaminal, just not a good
56 N1120A : And that is specifically because the BMW owners group bitched and moaned (rightfully) to get a real transmission back into the car. p-h-e-n-o-m-e-n-a
57 Airlinerfreak : Sorry Alireza and to the rest of you, I love it, I get to correct my English teacher once again, she always says Finaminal on my papers when I do wel
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59 MrChips : I'm a big gearhead...anything with wheels gets me going, especially if it comes from Germany. My current car is a *slightly* modified 1987 Volkswagen
60 Post contains images N1120A : The previous post had made their reference in miles, so I did mine in kind. 172 mph, 275 km/h. Isn't it always nice to be able to do that?
61 Post contains images UTA_flyinghigh : Much better indeed UTA
62 Post contains images WunalaYann : Because (hopefully) you do not drive like road-testers do. These are self-proclaimed sports cars, and testers/racers expect them to accelerate, handl
63 Kay : The brakes are the "Talon d'Achille" of BMW's. But that's because they are the only thing in the car that is normal, as opposed to the rest of the car
64 Post contains images UTA_flyinghigh : Do as I did, replace your normal discs/pads with Group N discs/pads/brakelines (I recommend OMP) and all this will be a fading memory (pun intended).
65 ScottishLaddie : That's what they produce the NSX-R for. Although currently not widely available, only sold in Japan so far I think? I don't think they decided to bri
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70 Post contains images Cornish : Yes but have you got the medallion for it ??
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73 Post contains images UTA_flyinghigh : If it drives anywhere like the Cerbera in GT4, I wouldn't even want to jumpseat in one. UTA
74 N1120A : Has nothing to do with homologation standards. It rather has to do with bad experiences had by French manufacturers here. Citroen was in too much fin
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