AerorobNZ From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 8301 posts, RR: 17
Reply 7, posted (11 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3017 times:
I'm watching it, if only to admire the St Pietro Cathedral and Piazza. I was only there not so long ago, and I was just thanking my lucky stars I'm not there now with all the crowds. A pretty long and drawn out funeral to be honest, but it's nice to catch up with how all the world leaders are doing, and what they look like, and their reactions. It's been a while since I met the King & Queen of Spain.
Interestingly it looks like Clinton wins the award for being the most genuinely moved and mot deeply in prayer...
L410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5923 posts, RR: 18
Reply 9, posted (11 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3015 times:
I'm neither Catholic nor religious but I watched it. Despite the fact that I disagree with nearly all ethical and moral stances of the CC on birth control, abortion, evolution, etc. I still believe Karol Woltyla was a truly remarkable person. I guess the attendance of 200+ statesmen from all around the world to his funeral proves it.
57AZ From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2586 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (11 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3004 times:
Just got done watching the live webcast of it, courtesy AP and Yahoo. Catholic services are generally long as a rule and the interruptions only made it run longer. Still, worthwhile to pause in the memory of one who made quite a mark on the papacy and the world for that matter. His successor will have some big decisions to make and mighty big shoes to fill.
"When a man runs on railroads over half of his lifetime he is fit for nothing else-and at times he don't know that."
Cfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (11 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2977 times:
Quoting Gkirk (Reply 6): Nope, it was only Catholics that worshipped the Pope
The Pope is not worshipped by anyone, including the most devout Catholics. He is not God. He is respected as the leader of the Roman Catholic Church, and the holder of the keys of St. Peter, nothing more or less. He is not worshipped.
Titch From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 329 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (11 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2971 times:
Quoting UTA_flyinghigh (Reply 10): Quoting L410Turbolet (Reply 9):
I guess the attendance of 200+ statesmen from all around the world to his funeral proves it.
That only shows that's it's a event where you need to be seen if you want to enhance your PR/political stature.
At last! Somebody who actually sees how much of a joke this whole fiasco actually is!
I'm not religious in the slightest, but I have to say that it's nice to see to Pope's (real) followers acknowledging what he did for them and their beliefs.
I just think it's a complete shame that an event like this has, once again, been spoiled by politics. The majority of the political leaders that turned up today weren't there because they wanted to be - they were there to make sure that their standing in the political world wasn't affected. They should be shot for being so fake.
Gman94 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 1239 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (11 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2967 times:
I had the misfortune of switching over to BBC1 when the Archbishop of Birmingham was talking absolute crap. He said 'When you leave God out of human affairs, things go wrong'. This nearly made fall out of my chair, I suggest the Archbishop picks up a history book and find out what acts have been committed when God has been brought into human affairs, this kind of hypocrisy drives me insane.
Yyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16525 posts, RR: 54
Reply 24, posted (11 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2896 times:
Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 23): Quoting Yyz717 (Reply 20):
My thoughts today are not on the pope, they are on the thousands of boys who were raped by priests under this pope's guard.
bla, bla. bla, Another broken record.
No matter how much you try to dismiss it or cover it up, the rapes happened. Those boys are still hurting emotionally, and maybe even physically. Some will be scarred for life. Too bad this pope didn't do more to root out the rapists and those that covered it up.
I dumped at the gybe mark in strong winds when I looked up at a Porter Q400 on finals. Can't stop spotting.
: Oh yes. Cry me a river. And many are a bunch of opportunistics trying to take advantage of that situation also.[Edited 2005-04-08 23:53:48]
: That's a very cold and cavalier attitude to take towards pre-pubescent rape victims, perhaps the most vulnerable of all. Either you will condone any
: I never ever try to hide the sun with one finger. But try to generalize the problem to the entire Church is not fair. John Paul the II was very clear
: I also was trying to improve my Italian, and picking out what I could understand in the other languages. To me that kind of thing and watching all th