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How Many Of You Will Not Watch Pope Idol Today?  
User currently offlineUTA_flyinghigh From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 6495 posts, RR: 50
Posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2085 times:

Since Pope lovers have already 3 threads in which they rave all about the ceremony and everything, we obviously need a counterweight.

I for one will steer well clear of TV, radio and other media for the next few days.

Others ?

UTA  checkeredflag 


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User currently offlineDIJKKIJK From France, joined Jul 2003, 1791 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2062 times:

Quoting UTA_flyinghigh (Thread starter):
for one will steer well clear of TV, radio and other media for the next few days.

Will you even stay away from your favourite gay porn channels?
 Wink



Never argue with idiots. They will bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience.
User currently offlineUTA_flyinghigh From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 6495 posts, RR: 50
Reply 2, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2051 times:

Quoting DIJKKIJK (Reply 1):
Will you even stay away from your favourite gay porn channels?

Of course as I have quite a lot of female porn on my computer's hard drive  Wink

UTA  checkeredflag 



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User currently offlineSkidmarks From UK - England, joined Dec 2004, 7121 posts, RR: 55
Reply 3, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2039 times:

I don't want to see any Pope funeral or Royal Wedding thank you. I shall be avoiding the TV like the plague - not that I watch a lot in any case.

Worldwide TV is one of the great plagues of our time sometimes. Too much of something tends to get monotonous and boring.

I'll stick the the snappy, witty and charming members of A.net who run a constant well informed, friendly site. Well, I'll stick to A.net anyway!!!!!!!!

Have a nice couple of days

Andy  old 



Growing old is compulsory, growing up is optional
User currently offlineXpat From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 634 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2024 times:

Quoting UTA_flyinghigh (Thread starter):
I for one will steer well clear of TV, radio and other media for the next few days

Me too!



The only thing we have to fear is the sky falling on our heads. -Asterix
User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2016 times:

I didn't watch the video or listen to audio coverage...but it's impossible to miss reading on the web...

User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39859 posts, RR: 74
Reply 6, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2013 times:

Come on. Have some respect for the Pope.


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User currently offlineLY7E7 From Israel, joined Jun 2004, 2249 posts, RR: 19
Reply 7, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2009 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 6):
Come on. Have some respect for the Pope.

Exactly. I'm an atheist yet I still respect the man. He was a major humanist and contributed a lot for inter-religious relations, thus bringing people closer to one another.



2 things are endless: ignorance and space
User currently offlineSkidmarks From UK - England, joined Dec 2004, 7121 posts, RR: 55
Reply 8, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2007 times:

Superfly, it has nothing to do with respect, more to do with overdosing on the situation.

The death and funeral have taken over the news and to be honest with you, I find it really OTT.

While not a Catholic I respect the pope as a good man and a leader of some repute. However, there is only so much I can take of the constant "news" reporting. Hours and hours of bugger all gets beyond a joke.

Same with the Royal Wedding. I am a Royalist, but I wish the Media would just piss off and leave them alone to get on with it.

Rant over, assert reality Big grin

Andy  old 



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User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16248 posts, RR: 56
Reply 9, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2002 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 6):
Come on. Have some respect for the Pope.

Why? Did the pope respect women or gays? What about the thousands of boys raped by priests? Where is the respect for them?



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User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39859 posts, RR: 74
Reply 10, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1998 times:

Skidmarks:
What you need to realize is that Pope John Paul II was the world's most influential person. His funeral deserves all the attention.
It's certainly more important than all the other B.S. reality TV shows and other low brow entertainment that dominates the airways.

Once he is buried, things will be status quo.



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineJasepl From India, joined Jul 2004, 3582 posts, RR: 39
Reply 11, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1997 times:

Not for me, thanks. I'd rather devote that time towards a nap, or a few drinkies.

I did speak to my old secretary a little while ago though - a devout Catholic if ever there were one. Her opinion on the funeral itself? Disappointing. She expected better of the Church and hopes they take a page or two out of the Brits' book, because thay sure throw really good funerals.


User currently offlineSkidmarks From UK - England, joined Dec 2004, 7121 posts, RR: 55
Reply 12, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1991 times:

Superfly, his funeral deserves attention, constant drivel on the amount of pilgrims, dissertations on who will be next and other such tripe do not.

And I would certainly dispute your claim that he was the worlds most influential person. Still, if thats your view, fine.

Have a nice day now

Andy  old 



Growing old is compulsory, growing up is optional
User currently offlineUTA_flyinghigh From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 6495 posts, RR: 50
Reply 13, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1986 times:

Note I did not criticize the man.

I am just fed up of all the media hype.

UTA  checkeredflag 



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User currently offlineThom@s From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 11953 posts, RR: 46
Reply 14, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1977 times:

Quoting Yyz717 (Reply 9):
Why? Did the pope respect women or gays?

Perhaps people will remember him with respect because he was a man of peace, and who wanted peace more than anything else?

Just a thought...

Quoting Yyz717 (Reply 9):
What about the thousands of boys raped by priests? Where is the respect for them?

Let me get this straight, you are blaming the pope for these actions by other individuals?

Not all who rape boys are priests, and not all priests rape boys.

Thom@s



"If guns don't kill people, people kill people - does that mean toasters don't toast toast, toast toast toast?"
User currently offlineQantas077 From Australia, joined Jan 2004, 5855 posts, RR: 40
Reply 15, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1968 times:

watched the end when mum told me the Greek part of the service commenced, couldn't give a fig about the rest of it!


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User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1963 times:

Another person who has to let the world knows he is in the minority when it comes to how he feels for this noble man that has passed.

Can we find anyone else even more petty in their remarks?


User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 17, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1951 times:

Quoting Jasepl (Reply 11):
She expected better of the Church and hopes they take a page or two out of the Brits' book, because thay sure throw really good funerals.

It's royalty. We have to make absolutely certain they're not coming back.  Wink


On the Pope's funeral? Couldn't give a stuff. He's dead, there's nothing to see. I just don't have any interest in watching people eulogise a dead body. Do it when they're alive, then it might make a difference.



She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39859 posts, RR: 74
Reply 18, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1951 times:

Quoting Skidmarks (Reply 12):
constant drivel on the amount of pilgrims, dissertations on who will be next and other such tripe do not.

It is a big deal because you have people who are arch enemies coming together for his funeral. This IS a big deal.
If you don't like what's on TV, maybe you should got outside and play futbol or cricket.
Put in a video tape or DVD of something you DO like.  Smile



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16248 posts, RR: 56
Reply 19, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1945 times:

Quoting Thom@s (Reply 14):
Quoting Yyz717 (Reply 9):
What about the thousands of boys raped by priests? Where is the respect for them?

Let me get this straight, you are blaming the pope for these actions by other individuals?

Indirectly, yes. The pope was CEO of the church. His vast organization (all of whom reported to him) covered up the vast rapes of altar boys. This pope did not take responsibility for nor did everything he could to bring the criminals to justice.

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 16):
Another person who has to let the world knows he is in the minority when it comes to how he feels for this noble man that has passed.

Can we find anyone else even more petty in their remarks?

A typically defensive catholic position. Ignore or white-wash the rapes and lash out at the person bringing the issue up. Just what the catholic church wants.



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User currently offlineJasepl From India, joined Jul 2004, 3582 posts, RR: 39
Reply 20, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1944 times:

Quoting Banco (Reply 17):
It's royalty. We have to make absolutely certain they're not coming back.

LOL!

Quote:
On the Pope's funeral? Couldn't give a stuff. He's dead, there's nothing to see. I just don't have any interest in watching people eulogise a dead body. Do it when they're alive, then it might make a difference.

Hear hear. More often than not, I wouldn't care to hear or see some random stranger eulogised during their lifetime either.


User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1924 times:

Quoting Yyz717 (Reply 19):
A typically defensive catholic position. Ignore or white-wash the rapes and lash out at the person bringing the issue up. Just what the catholic church wants.

Nothing to do with being raised Catholic, Yyz. In fact, when I go to church now, I got a Lutheran church more often than not. It's not defensive, but it gets tired hearing malcontents who have to make sure you know THEY hated the pope, because he didn't stand for this or that view, even though he was emminently a better man than most those bitching about the coverage of his passing.

As I said earlier, the Holy Father had more grace and dignity in his little finger than some of you have in your whole being. And I've been proven right again.


User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 22, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1905 times:

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 21):
It's not defensive, but it gets tired hearing malcontents who have to make sure you know THEY hated the pope, because he didn't stand for this or that view,

Hmm. the only thing there is that I see little difference in those saying how much they hated the pope, and those saying that he was the most wonderful human being ever, and could do know wrong. He was human, and made mistakes or took decisions others could disagree with. I don't honestly see how you can castigate one side and not the other - unless I missed something and you have.



She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16248 posts, RR: 56
Reply 23, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1901 times:

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 21):
As I said earlier, the Holy Father had more grace and dignity in his little finger than some of you have in your whole being.

Grace and dignity? Discriminating against gays & women. Advising the 3rd world not to use condoms. Presiding over an organization that condoned and covered up vast rapes.

There is little grace and dignity in any of these stances.



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User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1898 times:

Quoting Banco (Reply 22):
Hmm. the only thing there is that I see little difference in those saying how much they hated the pope, and those saying that he was the most wonderful human being ever, and could do know wrong. He was human, and made mistakes or took decisions others could disagree with. I don't honestly see how you can castigate one side and not the other - unless I missed something and you have.

I don't often castigate those who think a man was a good man, and this man was. I haven't heard a soul, Banco, say he was perfect, and I have my own issues with the Church and some things the Holy Father believed, but unlike some, I can separate the fact I had differences with the man on one hand, but that I genuinely admired the Holy Father on the other, for the fact he was a man of peace and of justice, despite those full of spite on here saying the opposite about him.

And Yyz, there's nothing that says people HAVE to accept gay behaivior, or the gay lifestyle. That doesn't make one any less great or any less filled with dignity. It means they see the world different than you do. I for one, hope the Church does NOT change it's stance EVER on gay marriage, but that's for another time.

Again, you loathe him for that. I admire him for sticking to what he thought was right, instead of popularly expedient, to curry favor with a group with their own agenda.


25 Banco : Well, there are a couple of bits to separate here. Personally, I agree with you that he was a good man. Not agreeing with him is a separate matter. H
26 JoseMEX : >Advising the 3rd world not to use condoms
27 MD-90 : No, I won't watch it. I don't have a TV.
28 Jaysit : The Pope was, indeed, human, but that spectacle in St. Peters makes him out to be a God. Putting his mortal remains on display for millions to view, a
29 TACAA320 : He was just simply great! And He will be remembered as one of the greatest Popes in the CC History.
30 SFOMEX : Lindy, amen to that! Well said my friend. Welcome to my RUL.
31 NYCFlyer : Jose, you totally miss the point here. No one judges people based on their condom opinions. However, the Pope is not just anyone! He is one of the mo
32 Yyz717 : I wonder if you will change your anti-gay stance if/when one of your kids announces that they are gay one day?
33 SFOMEX : True, most A.netter have been respectful. Lindy, I presume, was talking about the few who use the Pope's death as an excuse to insult the Church and
34 787 : "Pope Idol" Ahh yeah....sure. We have your type pegged. Considering your minority stance, perhaps it is that realization that your stance is just that
35 OzarkD9S : What is this "TV" you speak of? And what is a "Pope"?
36 Jaysit : In the Catholic tradition, sex is considered as a wonderful gift from God, which is truly enjoyed and embraced in marriage. The union between a man an
37 Scbriml : Shouldn't that be "Pope Idle"?
38 TACAA320 : Bla, bla, bla. Sounds like a broken record. Try not only to accuse, but give ARGUMENTS.
39 Post contains images Pilot kaz : Will (aka UTA) I shall (...) be staying away form any media device for the next few days
40 AJBUS300 : well for starts, everyone holds the right to decide on what they want to watch and what they don't want to. However, that doesn't give you the right t
41 Russophile : Noble? Puhleese. Do you people know that His Hypocriticness was more authoritarian than Putin could ever be? (I mention Putin because many on this sit
42 Yyz717 : Respect? Why should we respect a pope who did not respect women, gays or rape victims? Respect is a 2-way street. We'll respect the pope (whichever v
43 Pilot kaz : Maybe some of you should just step back and remember the fact that people have there reasons for mourning or not mouning the pope, theres no rights or
44 AJBUS300 : I don't think so. People are attacking the Pope and have been since he fell ill and that is just wrong. He can't defend himself so somebody has to. T
45 AeroWesty : I stayed up and watched it, starting at 1AM on the west coast. It was interesting from a historical perspective, and to see what people will do for th
46 Pilot kaz : Losing someone you only knew by religion who you didnt really know personally is a lot different to losing a loved one you did know personally. Im su
47 AJBUS300 : Maybe for you. I am a devoted Catholic and therefore, I take the loss of the Holy Father like the loss of a loved one. He was our leader and an extra
48 Pilot kaz : They wouldn't do it for fun or a joke, they do it for a reason, there belief. I never met the guy, he never did anything for me, family or friends, h
49 AJBUS300 : The Holy Father wasn't just a "normal" person. He was the leader of 1.1 billion Catholics.
50 Pilot kaz : 1.1 Billion is not the worlds population you know.. And I am not part of that 1.1 billion people so to me he is just a normal person... And I really
51 Post contains images EmiratesA345 : Of course you knew the Pope personally, so you knew exactly what he was like when you didn't see him on T.V. Even in his younger years. Mark
52 QANTASforever : I liked the funeral. It was like "The Da Vinci Code: The Musical". QFF
53 AJBUS300 : Well if you are going to use that argument, none of y'all can bash the Pope and say all this negative stuff about him because you "didn't know him pe
54 BartiniMan : The ignorant and biased trash that comes out of some people's mouths is amazing. Yyz717 your only repetitive argument seems to be the following: The P
55 Falcon84 : Their "belief" is to verbally beat on a dying man? How proud they must be to have such a "belief" Gee, Pilot Kaz, you don't know yet that life isn't
56 Ctbarnes : That was uncalled for, Scotty. I always thought of you as being above petty namecalling, and someone who stood up for tolerance. Charles, SJ
57 TACAA320 : bARTINImAN Welcome to my RR list! He [Yyz717] is another broken record.
58 Post contains images 787 : Another "classic" quote. Too bad it was not funny like the others.
59 Yyz717 : A one-time apology? For thousands of rapes? Do you think that's sufficient? I continue to be amazed that so many catholics on this board (indeed, per
60 BartiniMan : and you of all people, knows exactly what the church wants, and "condones" [reply 23]. give it a rest BartiniMan TACAA320, thank you and welcome to m
61 Yyz717 : Well, sometimes non-catholics can see the catholic church more clearly since we're not blinded by absolute devotion. To be honest, I see a catholic c
62 AJBUS300 : Dude, you sound like a broken record. WE GET IT....you dont like the Catholic religion or the Pope....geeze.......
63 SFOMEX : C'mon guys. Yyz717 is an attention wh***. He knows very well that his "hundreds of boys raped by priests" will get him all the attention he so badly n
64 Scbriml : Oh, that makes it OK then. Does that mean they've stopped raping choirboys now, or will the new Pope have to apologise as well? I'm the least religio
65 TACAA320 : That means that they are taking the problem seriously. That they have a "zero tolerance" policy in this regard. That they will prosecute every single
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