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User currently offlineCatatonic From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 1155 posts, RR: 3
Posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1265 times:

Http://www.easycruise.com

I honestly thought it was a joke!


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User currently offlineSevenair From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 1728 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1256 times:

no!!!!! its no joke!!!! its cool as! most cruise ships leave at 0000 aparently, but easy ship wont leave til 0400, giving you more of a chance to party in town!!

User currently offlineCatatonic From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 1155 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1252 times:

Quoting Sevenair (Reply 1):
but easy ship wont leave til 0400, giving you more of a chance to party in town!!

The places it goes arent exactly the places you would go out to party all night having stepped of a cheapo cruise/ferry type thing. You need serious bling to party at those kinds of places and travelling on easycruise just doesnt fit!



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User currently offlineSevenair From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 1728 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1251 times:

oh! ive just been on the site! thay have a cool cocktail list! and only 1.95GBP each! Cheap bottle of wine!

User currently offlineBananaBoY From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 1577 posts, RR: 23
Reply 4, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1232 times:

Will be interesting to see how this works out.

Is it really that cheap?

Their rates are very attractive, but without flights, transfers, food, tips, porterage and so on.

Cruising, particularly in the Med, is a very price driven market at the moment (no so much as the Baltic this year), but nevertheless, if it opens up a cruising to a whole new market, it can only be a good thing.

Mark



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User currently offlineSevenair From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 1728 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1199 times:

yeah, i think easyCruise wins on its flexibilty-you come for two nights min. whereever you want and then leave whenever. No waiting for the ship to return to port of origin. Perhaps they will promote this onboary EZY flights, im on one next week so i hope to see something. easpecially when we can ly direct to Nice from my hometown

User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1166 times:

This isn't really cruising - this is a cheap way of ferrying drunk Brits back and forth along the Cote d'Azur - just like a bus, only there's more room to throw up. Doesn't sound like fun, and you'll probably find a lot of places (especially in Monaco, Cannes and St. Tropez) putting up "No Easycruise" signs, to protect their high-end clientele.

User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 7, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1163 times:

It was only a matter of time - remember how Stelios's dad made his millions.

Like any good Greek millionaire's son, he was bound to come back to the shipping industry at some stage  Wink



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User currently offlineSXFAN From Greece, joined Jan 2004, 371 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1157 times:

Quoting Cornish (Reply 7):
It was only a matter of time - remember how Stelios's dad made his millions.

Like any good Greek millionaire's son, he was bound to come back to the shipping industry at some stage

He never left the shipping industry this is why he afforded to finance easyjet.
He owns Stelmar with his brother and they own some dozens of tankers bulk carriers etc.
Now about easycruise I think that it is going to be the cruise ship for teenagers but in Greece we say that cheap prices empty your pockets so beware of Stelios...  Wink


User currently offlineCatatonic From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 1155 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1155 times:

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 6):
This isn't really cruising - this is a cheap way of ferrying drunk Brits back and forth along the Cote d'Azur - just like a bus, only there's more room to throw up. Doesn't sound like fun, and you'll probably find a lot of places (especially in Monaco, Cannes and St. Tropez) putting up "No Easycruise" signs, to protect their high-end clientele.

I agree with you totally on this. It was a really stupid decision of Stelios to offer this itinerary on this type of ship. It really is going to be a booze ferry full of drunken 18-30's. The type of clientele easycruise will attract wont exactly fit well in the Cote d'Azur. I guess Stelios thought it would be a good idea because these are the places he goes too. IMO this cruise would have been better off floating round the Balierics or Canarys!



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User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1152 times:

Quoting Catatonic (Reply 9):
IMO this cruise would have been better off floating round the Balierics or Canarys!

True, but there aren't a week's worth of stopping places around the Balearics all within 3 hours cruising of each other - I suppose he could just have run it as an overnight shuttle between PMI and IBZ, but then Transmediterranea would have got all bolshy. And the Canaries are too far, plus no U2 flights to LPA or TFS.


User currently offlineNUair From Malaysia, joined Jun 2000, 1181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1139 times:

Quoting Catatonic (Reply 9):
. IMO this cruise would have been better off floating round the Balierics or Canarys!

More like the Southern coast of Spain; Barcelona, Ibiza, Majorca, Valencia. This is also a heavily covered area for EasyJet and EasyRentalcars and its already full of drunk brits so whats another boat load?

I'm still in shock that they painted a ship orange. God what an eye soar!



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User currently offlineCatatonic From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 1155 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1137 times:

Quoting NUair (Reply 11):
I'm still in shock that they painted a ship orange.

If thats not bad enough you should see the cabins!

http://mis.easygroup.co.uk/easyCruise/ships/gallery2.html



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User currently offlinePilot kaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1135 times:

Quoting Catatonic (Reply 12):
If that's not bad enough you should see the cabins!

Ekk like being in jail... But only with the bright orange makes things a tad bit worse...


User currently offlineDiesel1 From UK - Wales, joined Mar 2001, 1637 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1131 times:

Hmmm... interesting...

easyJet had plenty of doubters at launch, so Stelios will be used to some of the negative commentary he's getting here.

Quoting Catatonic (Reply 2):
The places it goes arent exactly the places you would go out to party all night having stepped of a cheapo cruise/ferry type thing. You need serious bling to party at those kinds of places and travelling on easycruise just doesnt fit!

This is going to bring in a new type of customer who will be able to afford to party, as they won't be spending huge amounts of cash on over priced accomodation.

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 6):
This isn't really cruising

Pretty much right... but drawing on the easyJet analogy, that wasn't much like a full service airline and it's now the second biggest carrier in Europe.

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 6):
drunk Brits

Who says it's for Brits only?

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 6):
you'll probably find a lot of places (especially in Monaco, Cannes and St. Tropez) putting up "No Easycruise" signs, to protect their high-end clientele.

All these places have plenty of visitors that aren't 'high-end clientele' already.


Quoting Catatonic (Reply 9):
It really is going to be a booze ferry full of drunken 18-30's

'Ferry' may well be another way of putting it rather than 'cruise', but floating hotel seems even more appropriate. Stelios has said he is aiming at people in their 20s/30s/40s, so it looks like you agree with him on the target market...

Quoting Catatonic (Reply 9):
The type of clientele easycruise will attract wont exactly fit well in the Cote d'Azur.

Same clientele as easyJet? How many flights a week do they already operate to Nice?

Quoting NUair (Reply 11):
I'm still in shock that they painted a ship orange. God what an eye soar!

Whether it's an eyesore is open to debate, what it certainly is, is eyecatching and something that will stand out in port.

Most of you doubters are pretty much blinkered in your outlook on this (and other doubters are simply just snobs  )

What easyCruise is doing is creating an entirely new market.

£50 a night in July seems pretty reasonable to me - could you get a hotel room for this sort of price in these destinations?

What's more the smallish scale of the initial launch means that the risk to Stelios must be fairly limited. so good business sense too.

All in all, it seems a pretty tempting offer...

[Edited 2005-04-15 15:18:13]


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User currently offlineCatatonic From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 1155 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1122 times:

Quoting Diesel1 (Reply 14):
This is going to bring in a new type of customer who will be able to afford to party, as they won't be spending huge amounts of cash on over priced accomodation.

I disagree, although saving on accomodation they will not be saving on many of the other aspects of cruising such as food and transport. Some cruise lines do provide transport too and from a ship. Almost all provide food and Maid service. Stelios is proposing to charge people for any food on board and for maid service its £10 a day. This in actual fact is not really cheap accomodation when you consider your paying £50 for an etremely small cabin.

Quoting Diesel1 (Reply 14):
Same clientele as easyJet? How many flights a week do they already operate to Nice?

You cannot compare easyjet to easycruise. This is an entirely different clientele than what easyjey attracts. The people who book easyjet flights want to get somewhere at a relatively low cost. Some people choose it for the price, some people chose it out of convenience but I dont think anyone would relish spending any great amount of time on one of his flights unlike a cruiseship.



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User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1113 times:

Quoting Diesel1 (Reply 14):
Same clientele as easyJet? How many flights a week do they already operate to Nice?

I don't think it is the same clientele as Easyjet, at least not to NCE anyway. Clearly they are hoping that passengers on the cruises will fly to NCE on Easyjet, but whenever I fly NCE-UK-NCE on U2 (4-6 times a year), the clientele is anything but 18-30's. It's at least 40% business people, or families/crumblies visiting holiday homes.

Quoting Diesel1 (Reply 14):
Who says it's for Brits only?

Have you not noticed how other nationalities tend to steer clear of destinations plugged at the Brit yoof market, or at least don't stay in the same resorts ? There's a reason... Big grin

Easy are marketing the cruises down here as well, on local radio, so we'll see.


User currently offlineCanadianNorth From Canada, joined Aug 2002, 3389 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1120 times:

It isn't a real cruise. A real cruise, you get up in the morning, stuff yer face as if its the apocalypse coming, have some fun on board (minigolf or movies or whatever), go off for a while to see the place yer parked at, get back on for supper, and party all night on the ship as you sail to yer next destination where you can get up at the crack of dawn with 4 hours of sleep to start all over or just sleep till lunchtime.



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User currently offlineDiesel1 From UK - Wales, joined Mar 2001, 1637 posts, RR: 11
Reply 18, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1099 times:

Quoting Catatonic (Reply 15):
they will not be saving on many of the other aspects of cruising such as food and transport. Some cruise lines do provide transport too and from a ship. Almost all provide food and Maid service

It's not a cruise, nor is it meant to be a 'cruise' as if you were onboard P&O, Cunard etc.. It's a floating hotel, simple as that. do a search on google and see if you can find what Stelios has said.. might be on the Guardian newspaper website.

£50 is not a lot to pay for accomodation, no matter what - and it can be cheaper in a 4 bedded room.

Quoting Catatonic (Reply 15):
I dont think anyone would relish spending any great amount of time on one of his flights unlike a cruiseship

Again, is this meant to be a cruise in the traditional use off the word, or simply a hotel that takes you from one point to another?

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 16):
I don't think it is the same clientele as Easyjet

This may be the case - time will tell...

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 16):
Have you not noticed how other nationalities tend to steer clear of destinations plugged at the Brit yoof market

Surely not  Wink

Quoting CanadianNorth (Reply 17):
It isn't a real cruise. A real cruise, you get up in the morning, stuff yer face as if its the apocalypse coming, have some fun on board (minigolf or movies or whatever), go off for a while to see the place yer parked at, get back on for supper, and party all night on the ship as you sail to yer next destination where you can get up at the crack of dawn with 4 hours of sleep to start all over or just sleep till lunchtime

Exactly - it "isn't a real cruise", and that's the point, it's something different.

One key point coming from this is a concern about whether it's going to be a whole loads of drunk British youth on board - that's something the ship management will have to deal with....



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User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1095 times:

Quoting Diesel1 (Reply 18):
that's something the ship management will have to deal with....

And, alas, so will the locals !


User currently offlineCatatonic From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 1155 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1093 times:

Quoting Diesel1 (Reply 18):
It's not a cruise, nor is it meant to be a 'cruise' as if you were onboard P&O, Cunard etc.. It's a floating hotel, simple as that. do a search on google and see if you can find what Stelios has said.. might be on the Guardian newspaper website.

He sells it as a cruise, and for that matter it is rather ambigious. A 'cruise' implies many things, many people may think that food and maid service is included in the price. I had too look hard in the terms and conditions that it says food is not included. Stelios needs to consider the wording more before selling this 'floating hotel' under the guise of a cruise.



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User currently offlineDiesel1 From UK - Wales, joined Mar 2001, 1637 posts, RR: 11
Reply 21, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1088 times:

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 19):
Quoting Diesel1 (Reply 18):
that's something the ship management will have to deal with....

And, alas, so will the locals !

Though this of course makes the assumption that it will only be drunken British youth on board...

Quoting Catatonic (Reply 20):
He sells it as a cruise

He sells it like this...

"The idea is to offer a unique holiday experience to independently minded travelers in their 20’s, 30’s and 40’s...
Unlike traditional cruising, the ship will stay in port in the afternoon and the evening to encourage people to have fun ashore and sail in the early hours of each morning for the next destination"


Quoting Catatonic (Reply 20):
I had too look hard in the terms and conditions that it says food is not included

Took me 30 seconds to find in the FAQs
"Q: Are meals included in the price?

A: No. "


In an earlier reply you said...

Quoting Catatonic (Reply 15):
Stelios is proposing to charge people for any food on board and for maid service its £10 a day.

Neither is compulsory.

Catatonic, you've lost the plot about easyCruise. It's no frills. You're not going to get them - you can pay for food etc.. It's just like easyJet or Ryanair or whoever...



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User currently offlineCatatonic From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 1155 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1087 times:

Quoting Diesel1 (Reply 21):
Neither is compulsory.

No of course it isnt. But if you think about it logically they are porobably not going to allow you to bring your own food aboard so what are you going to eat or drink whilst the ship is not in port which would be Morning until mid afternoon? Your going to have to eat in the restaraunt unless you starve.



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