A319114 From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 541 posts, RR: 3 Posted (11 years 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2158 times:
Currently, the world community is more aware then ever that there is coming an end to the oil. Though there is enough oil left for quite some decades, demand is getting higher and higher than supply, which results in higher and higher oil prices, severely damaging economies around the world.
All this makes it clear that the world economy has to become less dependant from oil and that we have to get our energy from other sources, if we want to maintain economic growth.
However, this 'conversion' may come with quite some problems. With oil getting more valuable every day and goverments being reluctant investing in alternative energy sources, conflicts over oil wells aren't unthinkable. As we all know, conflicts can escalate into disputes, which can escalate in war and so on.
Though a world war over oil is very, very unlikely at this stage, it may be a possibility in the distant future.
Obvious is that things have to change. We have to move from oil to renewable or alternative energy sources.
Since I'm currently engaged in an enviroment commision of a (liberal) political party, I'm really interested how you, world citizens, see this conversion. Do you think it will go together with high political tenses and conflicts? Which alternative energy source has your preference? Nuclear, biogas, wind or solar energy? Do you think governments should be more active in fighting climate problems?
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GoCOgo From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 703 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (11 years 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2150 times:
I agree with you. Things need to change. However, I doubt it would come to war (at least as the direct cause) unless OPEC decided to cut of the US for a political reason, which would make it just as much their fault.
I'm glad to see you aren't one of those totally idiotic environmentalist who honestly believe the technology exists today for a hydrogen energy system, just greedy energy execs prefer to make oil cash and pollute (I have had some idiots tell me that). The fact it alternative mobile energy is a long ways off. I know some think that no more money should be spent on fossil fuels, but if that happened, current energy prices would skyrocket far too much and nearly bankrupt the world economy. We might solve some future problems, but would create a whole lot more problems now.
I'm also glad to see that you aren't coming out as totally antinuclear. This is I think the best bet for energy production for residential and commercial purposes as well as for hydrogen generation. With research, nuclear power can be cleaned up. Wind would be good in some areas, too. I think before we consider growing corn etc. for fuel to but in out SUVs, we should grow corn for the starving people of the world. Solar I see having too many problems in many areas, including, as it is here in Cleveland, too cloudy much of the year. I would be all for a Dyson Sphere, though.
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Schoenorama From Spain, joined Apr 2001, 2440 posts, RR: 23
Reply 3, posted (11 years 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2146 times:
Quoting A319114 (Thread starter): Though a world war over oil is very, very unlikely at this stage, it may be a possibility in the distant future.
I disagree, as in fact local wars over oil have already happened twice in the past 15 years or so. The access to cheap Middle Eastern oil is very important to any global nation with a wealthy but oil-driven economy and to those which are rapidly moving into that direction. Oil, especially cheap oil, is paramount in maintaining the economical and military status of Western countries while the same product is of equal importance to those nations with rapidly emerging/growing economies and global influence.
Sincerely, I believe we, the world, should have started looking for alternative fuels much sooner, as our economies now are still too reliant on oil, even in Europe. We also should start recognizing that, whether we like it or not, our children and our grandchildren will most likely not have the economical advantages our generation has because cheap oil is not only getting scarcer, but also more expensive because of that. A simple look around anyone's house will show anyone just how important cheap oil has been and still is in our normal, everyday life.
Although I've never been in favour of nuclear energy, now I do believe it is the only efficient solution which would minimize the impact of the lack of cheap oil sufficiently allowing us to maintain a reasonable economy.
Quoting A319114 (Thread starter): Since I'm currently engaged in an enviroment commision of a (liberal) political party,
Liberal as in VVD or more to the left? Just asking...
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