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Texas Says No To Gay Foster Parents  
User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 1979 times:

What is the alternative – growing up in an orphanage?

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AUSTIN, Texas - Texas could become the only state to bar gays from becoming foster parents under legislation passed Wednesday by the House.

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Link to AP article -


http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor.../ap_on_re_us/gays_foster_parents_2

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User currently offlinePA110 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1996 posts, RR: 24
Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 1973 times:
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Did you really expect anything more from Texas? Some days, I really wonder if the Civil War was really worth it. We should have let the South go. There is such a huge cultural divide between the North and South. Sometimes I think we'd be better off without them.

And I'm sure that some in the South think the same of the North.

[Edited 2005-04-20 20:41:47]


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User currently offlineMt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6573 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 1971 times:
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Well, you do know that all Straight people are saints rigth?


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User currently offlineOrion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 1955 times:

I do tend to think that children should be placed with heterosexual married couples where possible. The traditional family of a mother and father figure is the best environment for a child.

One of the things about being gay I most regret is that I will never have children but I accept that. I dont think two men or two women would be the best option for raising a child.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39693 posts, RR: 75
Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 1951 times:

This is just nuts!
Keep in mind this the same state that's given us nuts such as George W. Bush, Phil Grahm, John Cornyn, Tom DeLay and DickArmy.



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User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 1946 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 4):
This is just nuts!

And another nut that wrote a book called Nuts!

(WN's Herb).


User currently onlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20393 posts, RR: 62
Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 1937 times:

Quoting Orion737 (Reply 3):
The traditional family of a mother and father figure is the best environment for a child.

No, a nurturing environment is the best for a child. It doesn't matter if it's male-female, male-male, or female-female. It's even possible to raise a child as a single parent and still provide a nurturing environment. Those who flounder from foster home to foster home are universally worse off than those placed in a stable home, and there's every indication same-sex couples in a committed relationship can provide that.



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User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 1935 times:

How come there isin't a smiley for shooting one's self in the foot?  white 

User currently offlineTWFirst From Vatican City, joined Apr 2000, 6346 posts, RR: 52
Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 1929 times:

Quoting Orion737 (Reply 3):
I do tend to think that children should be placed with heterosexual married couples where possible. The traditional family of a mother and father figure is the best environment for a child.

One of the things about being gay I most regret is that I will never have children but I accept that. I dont think two men or two women would be the best option for raising a child.

Bullcrap. You CAN have children. Lots and lots of gay people have children.


Of course this isn't surprising coming from Texas.... Texas can kiss my white hairy gay butt. And you can bet there'll be lawsuits.



An unexamined life isn't worth living.
User currently offlineTriStarEnvy From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2265 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 1900 times:

Now, you see, the moderate-conservative, right wing (ex)Texan in me SHOULD applaud that decision. However.....

As a parent of young children, I get to see how many kids out there are part of a one parent (if even THAT) family. If I had a dime for every friend of my daughters that are w/mom, or grand parents, I'd be a wealthy fellow.

And living in Florida, I have had the (dis)pleasure of seeing what happens to kids in situations similar to this. Several of the last child abductions have involved single parent families.

So, should a gay couple, that can provide a loving and safe family environment be allowed to adopt? I think so. I may not agree, and to be honest, it's none of my business, but if it takes a child OUT of harms way, and they are committed to one another, I can't argue against it.

[Edited 2005-04-20 21:50:09]


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User currently offlineCaptoveur From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 1881 times:

Looks like the state government wants to ignore the problem with the foster care system and pass laws to make the problem worse. There is already a shortage of foster parents and tossing the gays out is only going to make the problem worse.

I guess if it is what the voters want....

The jobs of politicians is not to impose their own will but to impose the will of the majority on all of us. If this is what the majority wants then I guess we will all just have to suffer.

You act like it is a shock to discover Texas is a little conservative.


User currently offlineSeptember11 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3623 posts, RR: 21
Reply 11, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 1853 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 6):
a nurturing environment is the best for a child

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User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 1840 times:

Quoting September11 (Reply 11):
Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 6):
a nurturing environment is the best for a child

Absolutely correct!!!



User currently offlinePacificWestern From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 1825 times:

Quoting FlyingTexan (Thread starter):
What is the alternative – growing up in an orphanage?

In a society where many parents themselves believe it would be better to have a dead child than a gay one, none of this suprises me.

It's curious as to how voters/politicians/religious spokespeople affirm that it would be unhealthy for a child to grow up in a home with same sex parents. The premise being that only male-female couples are able to raise a well adjusted, productive, and happy child! I guess we all must know now that most murderers, thieves, vandals, perverts, and all other examples of lower mankind just had to have been the product of a home with two fathers or two mothers. That's correct all you ultraconservative and closed minded individuals out there..........visit any prison and you can walk along pointing your fingers saying to yourselves, "Uh huh....of course that one was raised by dykes" or "Yep, that serial killer obviously was brought up by faggots".  Yeah sure


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39693 posts, RR: 75
Reply 14, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 1822 times:

I've met a few people who's had a mother or father come out of the closet or joined the other team.
They turned out fine. They didn't seem to have suffered any mental trauma as a result of it.



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User currently offlineAdam From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 465 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 1817 times:

Quoting Orion737 (Reply 3):
The traditional family of a mother and father figure is the best environment for a child.

Those aren't very popular in the United States.



Texas: You'll come for the Alamo, You'll stay because you were wrongfully executed. - Conan O'Brian State Quarters
User currently offlineZOTAN From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 609 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 1795 times:

Texas needs to shove it. Is an orphanage really a better environment for the kid? If there are people out there that will nurture and love the kid why not let them adopt him?

User currently offlineSFOMEX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 1771 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 4):
Keep in mind this the same state that's given us nuts such as George W. Bush, Phil Grahm, John Cornyn, Tom DeLay and DickArmy.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think George W. Bush was born in Connecticut. Now, blame that godforsaken state...  Smile


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39693 posts, RR: 75
Reply 18, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 1758 times:

Quoting SFOMEX (Reply 17):
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think George W. Bush was born in Connecticut.

You are correct but elected in Texas.



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User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 1754 times:

SFOMEX –

W was raised in Texas, had business (many say questionable) dealings, and eventually became Governor of the Lone Star State. He does pass off his world image as a Texan.

Which is exactly why I started that other thread about W listing his tax address as Illinois!


User currently offlinePacificWestern From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 1738 times:

Quoting SFOMEX (Reply 17):
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think George W. Bush was born in Connecticut. Now, blame that godforsaken state...

And why would you call Connecticut "godforsaken"??


User currently offlineScottieprecord From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 1363 posts, RR: 11
Reply 21, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1711 times:

You know, with my mother being gay, I say we let the children decide if they want to grow up in a gay family or not. I was lucky enough to be able to move to my father's house when it all got too much. I couldn't stand the constant barrage of estrogen flooding my life. It was just all way too much. Most of these children, unlike me, will not be able to escape from a situation like this.

Also, if homosexuals want children, they should consider the obvious flaw of their sexual orientation. That is, of course, not being able to reproduce.  scratchchin 

I am in no way against homosexuality. I just do not think it is right to impose this sort of lifestyle on children simply because some homosexual couples want children.

-Mike


User currently offlineAdam From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 465 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 1705 times:

Quoting Scottieprecord (Reply 21):
I just do not think it is right to impose this sort of lifestyle on children simply because some homosexual couples want children.

The more people describe it as an unacceptable lifestyle, the more gay teens go home and blow their heads off.

my 2 cents.

adam



Texas: You'll come for the Alamo, You'll stay because you were wrongfully executed. - Conan O'Brian State Quarters
User currently offlineCaptoveur From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 1699 times:

Quoting FlyingTexan (Reply 19):
Which is exactly why I started that other thread about W listing his tax address as Illinois!

My god why? Texas is not only an income tax free state it is also one of the best states for consumer protection against collections. Granted that isn't really a concern for him but geez. Isn't Illinois an income tax state?


User currently offlinePacificWestern From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 1697 times:

Quoting Scottieprecord (Reply 21):
You know, with my mother being gay, I say we let the children decide if they want to grow up in a gay family or not. I was lucky enough to be able to move to my father's house when it all got too much. I couldn't stand the constant barrage of estrogen flooding my life. It was just all way too much. Most of these children, unlike me, will not be able to escape from a situation like this.

Uh huh......so being gay made your mother a bad parent? Or maybe your mother was simply just a bad parent? Had she been straight, there would have been no "barrage of estrogen flooding your life"? Doubtful. Lesbians don't hold exclusive rights to estrogen.

My brother could not stand living at home with my mother, so he left. She was definitely hetero, but her moods, her cruelty, and her lack of parenting skills had nothing to do with her sexual orientation.

Quoting Scottieprecord (Reply 21):
I am in no way against homosexuality. I just do not think it is right to impose this sort of lifestyle on children simply because some homosexual couples want children.

Get it right people...being gay is not a "lifestyle". It's who one is or is not. A lifestyle is spending weekends at the Hamptons, or regular days lunching out then shopping afterward.

Quoting Scottieprecord (Reply 21):
Also, if homosexuals want children, they should consider the obvious flaw of their sexual orientation. That is, of course, not being able to reproduce.

Oh yes, you're not "against" homosexuality, yet you speak of an obvious flaw of their orientation. Try again. Your foolish statement infers that you believe that being able to reproduce is some sort of guarantee of quality parenting. And that a straight couple who is infertile is a flaw of their sexual orientation??

I am sorry you had a difficult time with your mother but if your disgust of gay people comes from your bad experiences with her, don't make the rest of gaydom suffer for it. That would be like a gay person thinking all heterosexuals are imbeciles using you as an example because of the opinions you've posted above.

[Edited 2005-04-21 05:47:07]

25 SFOMEX : Adam, I think that your statement is unfair. I deal with young people every day and I can tell you that suicide among teenagers, either gays or strai
26 Padcrasher : Oh they love kids in Texas. They lead the nation in percentage of children with no healthcare. They are trying to pass a statewide school funding plan
27 PacificWestern : Yet you revere a Pope who contributes to homophobia. Such a fascinating character you are SFOMEX.
28 Aa757first : Might have something to do with the fact that so many of their children are poor immigrants... AAndrew
29 Thomasphoto60 : Where do you call home? Thomas
30 JpetekYXMD80 : What a joke!! I was with foster parents for a very brief period a few months after I was born. Of course, I don't remember anything, but the point is
31 SFOMEX : I don't see the contradiction. The Pope, first of all, is the Vicar of Christ and the universal shepherd of my church. I do love and respect him beca
32 S12PPL : So here's a question.... How do they know a person is gay? I mean...lots of single people adopt children...Right? So how do you know a person is gay?
33 Thomasphoto60 : If I were a betting man I would say that this law (if passed) would probably be struck down as unconstitutional similar to Arkansas's attempt sometime
34 Post contains links Adam : It's important that our government doesn't send out a message that implies homosexuality is wrong. The sooner our government accepts homosexuals as e
35 Texan : To be fair, it has not passed yet. And Governor Perry, a Republican with whom I am in constant disagreement, has said that he is considering vetoing t
36 Aa777flyer : I have said it many times before and many times more. TEXAS SUCKS! They need to take all the bible thumpers and their bibles and send them away along
37 Texan : First off, the "bible thumpers" are a major force throughout the south and midwest, not just Texas. The Bible isn't completely full of bad ideas. Sec
38 PA110 : Sorry Texan, that's not necessarily a cheery thought. While I agree that broad generalizations (such as my own in reply 1) don't help, you can't deny
39 Mt99 : There is nothing anyone can say to refute your statement. If this is your position, you must be consistant. Do you accept EVERYTHING that the church
40 Jaysit : Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. And yet this Pope believes that discrimination in teaching jobs, the military,
41 Post contains images Allstarflyer : Do conservatives ever get a forum to vent? Nah . . . it defies the good sense of pluralism. And what of you? So SFOMEX took a shot at Connecticut. Lay
42 Thomasphoto60 : And you were in Texas, when.....? Thomas
43 Post contains links FlyingTexan : Following are excerpts of John Young’s editorial published in the Waco Tribune-Herald. === The amendment, added to a restructuring of Child Protecti
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