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Do You Believe In The Theory Of Evolution  
User currently offlineAak777 From Qatar, joined Apr 2001, 284 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3913 times:

I dont, Do you?
Just want to open a discussion among A.net users and see the different opinions, so tell us what you think.

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User currently offlinePA110 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1989 posts, RR: 24
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3912 times:
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Evolution is the established scientific theory of the development of the species. I not only accept those scientific findings, but I staunchly oppose the Christian fundamentalist movement that wants to either limit the teaching of evolution, or present it as a possible option side by side with creationism. It is appalling that so many young people subject to these fundamentalist school boards are going to enter university with a tremendous handicap. Teaching superstition is not a substitute for science!

[Edited 2005-04-20 22:30:35]


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User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3910 times:

Anyone who doesn't believe it either hasn't read it, or has limited background in science.

User currently offlineLeskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 70
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3888 times:

Absolutely.

Regards,
Frank



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User currently offlineKieron747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3883 times:

I am a very strong believer in evolution and am an atheist. My background is scientific and I have studied genetics extensively, and one of my favourite books is Darwin's "On The Origin of Species".

In my opinion, it is the only theory that fits my understanding of the world (which I openly admit may be incorrect) and the way I see things. I know many people who don't believe in it, including a few scientists, who take the view that evolution is a fact, yet there is still a God-like force behind it all.

I also know people who refuse point blank to accept that humans came from primates. I believe that we did. My current flatmate is a scientist, his religion is Islam, and he believes in evolution - for every lifeform on the Earth except humans.

Now in my mind, his theory is sheer lunacy, but who am I to comment on it? He is happy with his explanation, I happen to think its a complete load of manure but I'm not going to argue too much with him (I have tried- and failed!  Wink)

I think that the fact that certain educational establishments do not teach evolution theory is a serious crime. If people want to teach creation theory- fine, but at least let people hear the other possible explanation!

Kieron747


User currently offlineLeviticus From New Zealand, joined Oct 2007, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3869 times:

No I do not, it has been proven several times that it is utter bullshit.

User currently offlineKieron747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3856 times:

Quoting Leviticus (Reply 5):
No I do not, it has been proven several times that it is utter bullshit.

Have you any evidence of this 'proof' to back up your statement?


User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5566 posts, RR: 36
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3848 times:

Of course I do. It is scientifically proven. What else should it be??? Funny question. It is not, to believe in it or not, it is fact.

User currently offlineTWFirst From Vatican City, joined Apr 2000, 6346 posts, RR: 52
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3801 times:

Evolution and the existence of an omnipotent creator are not mutually exclusive. To me, what's really sad is that creationists don't understand that.


An unexamined life isn't worth living.
User currently offlineN229NW From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 1925 posts, RR: 32
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3797 times:

Definitely yes.

I also believe in the theory of mechanics, including gravity (a very nice theory that allows me to predict that if I drop something it will fall), etc. I believe in the theory that the earth is round and the theory that it orbits the sun due to the mechanics mentioned in the previous sentence. All scientific evidence points clearly to the conclusion that these theories are valid. They can be used to make many accurate extrapolations and predictions, the hallmark of all theories that have held up to scientific scrutiny. Evolution is one such well-established theory.

Quoting ZRH (Reply 7):
Of course I do. It is scientifically proven.

It is as proven as a scientific hypothesis can be, just as with all the above examples. While I cannot personally understand why, there are people who continue to believe that the earth is flat, that the sun goes around it, and/or that evolution (natural selection) has not occurred and is not currently continuing--even though we can WATCH it happening in various species today, and see it in humans within recent history too (for example, consider the difference between the average height of humans now versus 300 years ago, etc.).

Anyone should be able to hold any religious beliefs they want, but these should not be taught in SCIENCE class, at least until people have a thorough understanding of what the scientific process is and how it works. As MD11Engineer (I think it was) said in another thread, it is a shame how many people are taught science as though it were a bunch of facts, conclusions, or formulas to memorize--rather than method of critical thinking and experimental process, which continually seeks to disprove its theories and see how well they hold up. If people learned to really think scientifically rather than memorize without understanding, there would be a lot more interest in science classes, not to mention less bizarre belief in things such as astrology...

[Edited 2005-04-20 23:06:32]


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User currently offlineWellHung From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3795 times:

Quoting Leviticus (Reply 5):
No I do not, it has been proven several times that it is utter bullshit.

You forgot the "Signed, Your New Pope" part at the end of your post.


User currently offlineSK A340 From Sweden, joined Mar 2000, 845 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3787 times:

I see it as an axiom, like the main clauses of thermodynamics. So, the answer is; Yes I believe in it until someone comes up with a proof/example that it's false.

/Micke


User currently offlineLeviticus From New Zealand, joined Oct 2007, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3768 times:

Quoting Kieron747 (Reply 6):
Have you any evidence of this 'proof' to back up your statement?

Well first of all it has never been proven, hence the name, Evolution THEORY, there are today no evidence that clearly shows the transformation for instance ape to human (I believe of course that there is SOME form of evolution on our planet, but a better word for it is progress and adjustments, that things change, but this thread seems to be about the theory of creation of mankind so I will leave it there). Also, all the latest research show (look for articles in Newsweek and Popular Science from January this year) that the different kinds of creatures developed from monkeys (homo erectus, homo whatever etc.) never actually met/lived together or had close relations/sexual contact. So the so called chain would have been broken several times. Now I do not know for sure how we got were we are today, but the theories of Darwin, they just can not be correct.


User currently offlineLeviticus From New Zealand, joined Oct 2007, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3757 times:

Quoting WellHung (Reply 10):
You forgot the "Signed, Your New Pope" part at the end of your post.

Oops, my bad ! From now on I will add "/Benedict XVI" to my signature field.


User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3744 times:

Quoting 777236ER (Reply 2):
Anyone who doesn't believe it either hasn't read it, or has limited background in science.

Why?
It is still a "theory". Nothing has changed yet [about it, of course].


User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3744 times:

YES!!!



It's perposterous to think that 1 man, then one woman just mysteriously appeared and the whole world was begat..


User currently offlineMdsh00 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4124 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3743 times:

First off, I think everyone should get this: Evolution does NOT, I repeat... DOES NOT give an explanation for the creation of LIFE. Forget the title of Darwin's book, it has been miscontrued. Also, evolution does NOT say that humans are descended from monkeys.

As for myself, having gone through a University major that included many classes in evolution mechanisms, I can't see how it is false. There are just so many examples out there which point to evolution and Natural Selection occuring all the time. We know that it happens on the microbal level, and it sure as hell happens on the species level.

If anyone wants to discuss this calmly, I can go into details.

EDIT: Those who say that it is a "theory" need to know that Relativity and the concept of Gravity are still "theories.

[Edited 2005-04-20 23:07:17]


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User currently offlineA319114 From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 541 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3732 times:

Though the theory is true for the most part, there are some gaps in it. For example, how did birds evolve from land creatures to flying creatures? It wasn't like a dino all of the sudden got feather and big fat wings and flew away. It must have went very slow, each generation having more bird like properties. However, some of these 'intermediate' birds must have had significantly problems with their half grown wings, not being able to move very well. However, they didn't get hunt or starved to death not being able to find food in a efficient way, and that's a bit strange. It contradicts with 'the survival of the fittest'. There are more examples like this.
In other words, though I believe the evolution theory is correct in most cases, it doesn't explain everything.
Also, keep in mind that nearly every theory is constantly evolving (the irony  Wink), and not a single theory is totally, 100%, right (that's exactly why they're called theories). Same thing goes for chemistry and physics theories. They are a workable model which explains almost everything, and keep changing.



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User currently offlineLeviticus From New Zealand, joined Oct 2007, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3729 times:

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 15):
It's perposterous to think that 1 man, then one woman just mysteriously appeared and the whole world was begat..

Dude, just because you disagree with the evolution theory does not mean that you fully accept the story of Adam and Eve, in my eyes that is crap too. There must be a third and more resoable solution to the issue.

[Edited 2005-04-20 23:08:46]

User currently offlineSoku39 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 1797 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3731 times:

TWfirst, the religious ones that I've talked to understand that. To me it seems much the opposite. It is a theory, and no one in the scientific community can seem to stomach this. ie.

Quoting ZRH (Reply 7):
Of course I do. It is scientifically proven. What else should it be??? Funny question. It is not, to believe in it or not, it is fact.

yep by 5 fossils, oh wait one of those ended up just being pig teeth, well fine, 4, oh wait one of them was glued together, oh ya nevermind....

It is so arrogant to say only one thing should be taught.

Some of you need to give "darwin's black box" or "darwin on trial" a good read.



The Ohio Player
User currently offlinePA110 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1989 posts, RR: 24
Reply 20, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3720 times:
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Let's face it here. There's basically two camps... those that believe in evolution, and those that believe in creation. Evolution is a scientific theory. Creation is a religious church teaching. So, since the Church has admitted being wrong about the Earth being flat and the Earth being at the center of the Universe, How many centuries will it take before the Church owns up to their mistake on creation and embrace evolution?

[Edited 2005-04-20 23:15:03]


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User currently offlineN229NW From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 1925 posts, RR: 32
Reply 21, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3712 times:

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 14):
Quoting 777236ER (Reply 2):
Anyone who doesn't believe it either hasn't read it, or has limited background in science.

Why?
It is still a "theory". Nothing has changed yet [about it, of course].

TACAA (and Leviticus), you have just proven 777236ER's point. Only a limited background in science allows people to claim that a "THEORY" means it has not been upheld by the evidence. As my earlier post explains, gravity is also a "theory."

You are welcome to not believe it. But the way you articulate this belief does indeed show a limited background in science. This is what I mean about how science needs to be taught better...



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User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3704 times:

Quoting PA110 (Reply 20):
So, since the Church has been wrong about the Earth being flat and the Earth being at the center of the Universe,

Which one?


User currently offlinePA110 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1989 posts, RR: 24
Reply 23, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3694 times:
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Which one what? Which mistake? or Which church? If you mean which church, I mean not only the Roman Catholic Church, but the entire Christian theology.


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User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3670 times:

Pa110 If you have some minutes to spare, read this http://www.catholic.net/RCC/Periodicals/Dossier/0102-97/Article3.html

25 Arniepie : Relativity is already proven by observing shifts from the orbits of the Laser Geodynamics Satellite I (LAGEOS I), a NASA spacecraft, and LAGEOS II, a
26 PA110 : " target=_blank>http://www.catholic.net/RCC/Periodic....html Thank you Taca, I did read it - with great interest. Although I would dispute some of the
27 TedTAce : Umm I don't disagree with evolution!! I disagree that we mysteriously appeared here.. Yes there is.. it's called Filling in the gaps. Ummm, never...
28 F9Widebody : Survival of the fittest? Yes. Evolution? No.
29 Post contains links and images TedTAce : When it comes to Humans, NO. Because we are a benovelent society we take care of those less fortunate, allowing them to breed/reproduce and generate
30 Arniepie : Survival of the fittest is actually an important part in evolution. Care to elaborate on your somewhat unique view?
31 Post contains images Klaus : Leviticus: Well first of all it has never been proven, hence the name, Evolution THEORY, No, that is an incorrect interpretation which is only used by
32 OzarkD9S : I believe in God, or a higher power if you will. I think ALL the religions of the world have good points and bad points. And I also think they ALL hav
33 L410Turbolet : Just look at penguins. They're nothing but funny while on the ground but once they get into the water they're just like some underwater bullets and s
34 Klaus : You need to consider that "survival of the fittest" does not mean survival of the meanest. The fitness of a species can be enhanced very much by devel
35 Post contains images Aerobalance : Yes, I do....... or those little skeletons we find are of aliens
36 LHMARK : What if natural selection/evolution was the method used by God to create humans? Here's another stumper, what evidence do we have that all hominid evo
37 TACAA320 : Everybody is entitle to their own opinion regardless if it is right or wrong. Very kind of you. And Yes, with alldue respect, I don't believe it.
38 ZOTAN : A scientific theory is much different than just a normal theory. A scientific theory is backed up with hundreds of observations, studies etc. I believ
39 Post contains images Klaus : LHMARK: What if natural selection/evolution was the method used by God to create humans? Could be. But no observation-consistent theory so far needs t
40 LHMARK : Judging by Reality TV, I'd say it's likely
41 TACAA320 : In another words, anyone who differs from you is narrowminded, and stubborn. That's the greatest post of this day.[Edited 2005-04-21 00:44:14]
42 Klaus : TACAA320: Everybody is entitle to their own opinion regardless if it is right or wrong. Sure. And I try to choose opinions which are demonstrably cons
43 Post contains images Klaus : LHMARK: Judging by Reality TV, I'd say it's likely Difficult to argue that! But maybe still not too late after all...
44 Post contains images Flyboy1980 : I believe in evolution. Klaus's explanation of Evolution and the meaning of the word "theory" was particularly good. Thanks Klaus I look at it this wa
45 Lemmy : The real tragedy here has been the influence of these "Intelligent Design" nutjobs who are forcing their religious preferences into our public schools
46 F9Widebody : Sure. I believe that within species (not humans), those that are more fit, will naturally survive longer with their advantages (Basic Darwinian Theor
47 Aerorobnz : At this point in time there is no matter explanation than the Theory of Evolution of Life on Earth. So yes I do wholeheartedly accept it as how we cam
48 Bezoar : Microevolution has been demonstrated to some degree. These are the minor and limited adaptations clearly demonstrable within a species, like changes i
49 PacificWestern : Based upon the guys I've dated, I would have to say I have irrefutable proof that evolution does indeed exist!
50 Cptkrell : Long thread; I ain't read every word, but if it hasn't been mentioned in previous posts, I might suggest Mel Brooks' "History Of The World" parts. Reg
51 Aerorobnz : Prove that we didn't evolve from early hominid apes, or that we didn't evolve from monocellular beings....It goes both ways on that argument. Anyone
52 David b. : What edvidence is that Bezoar?
53 Post contains images Klaus : Bezoar: Microevolution has been demonstrated to some degree. These are the minor and limited adaptations clearly demonstrable within a species, like c
54 Post contains images TACAA320 : Try to prove that we did. I'm a lawyer
55 Bezoar : Occam's Razor: "One should not increase, beyond what is necessary, the number of entities required to explain anything." The main problem with the the
56 Bezoar : Klaus, I love good discourse, so I thank you for your post. Even if I had the ability to fully debate the finer points, there is probably not the room
57 Post contains images Aerorobnz : LMAO...nice one..
58 B2707SST : This is a bit of an exaggeration. Evolution doesn't claim to explain the existence of galaxies, planets, or complex organic molecules. All it explain
59 MD-90 : I don't believe in the theory of evolution, and it's not because I'm a Christian. God is, whether or not evolution is true or not. I just believe in i
60 PA110 : Wow, that's sad. Dude, how many science classes did you sleep through?
61 MD-90 : Just chem II in high school because it was after lunch, in a dark room (Mrs. Allen liked to use the projector to write equations).
62 Banco : Some people are getting caught up in the term "scientific proof". Proof in science is used in the word's original sense of testing, not of absolute pr
63 JGPH1A : I don't "believe" in evolution - I accept is as being about as scientifically proven as it is possible for any theory to be, and have as yet encounter
64 777236ER : You can never prove a scientific theory, only disprove it. It's a handy caveat of science that those fundamentally opposed to it love to exploit. The
65 Klaus : Thank you, B2707SST, for your points; I couldn´t have made them any better. Bezoar: You are most correct to say that I am inserting my personal needs
66 SLC1 : Okay, now that this subject has popped its ugly little head in, let me start out with terminology--- a "theory" is far from the same as a "hypothesis.
67 QB001 : Scientific American, from the April, 2005 issue Okay, We Give Up There's no easy way to admit this. For years, helpful letter writers told us to stick
68 Bezoar : It is not my aim to debunk science, only to soften the vigor by which it is used to try to explain away the presence of a creator. Nor am I trying to
69 MD11Engineer : Religion demands "absolute" truths, while science is in constant progress, with theories (which explain something for now) being constantly attacked i
70 TedTAce : Ok.. To have a reality you have to have a perception. Without perception there is no 'truth/fact whatever'. The problem with creationism is at this po
71 Post contains links TACAA320 : http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05654a.htm
72 Klaus : TACAA320: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05654a.htm The site shies away from actually dealing with the necessary scientific substance. It makes very
73 Cumulonimbus : And who says that there can not be God and evolution or Science for that matter? A power of God's Magnitude is most likely so completely alien in his
74 Post contains links TACAA320 : So which one do you recommend? Which one has the necessary scientific substance? http://www.tanbooks.com/doct/science_today.htm http://www.tanbooks.c
75 Post contains images ShyFlyer : While I agree with you that scientific understanding is important, I strongly disagree that having an understanding of (or believing in) "creationism
76 Boeing Nut : I must say that for such a controversial topic, everyone has really maintained composure. Nicely done everyone. I personally believe that there is a h
77 Jet-lagged : Yes I believe. So much evidence has been accumulated and tested and vetted, that it should be accepted as proven true beyond a reasonable doubt. Now,
78 PA110 : It's a handicap because by teaching the creationism as an equally plausible explanation implicitily questions the validity of years of scientific res
79 Daedaeg : As a Christian I don't believe in Evolution. However, it's an interesting theory and don't believe it should be banned from public schools. As long as
80 PA110 : This post is a perfect example of the problem. DAEDAEG you have conveniently ignored most if not all of the previous postings. Pleas re-read Klaus' R
81 MBMBOS : This is what I find so amazing about the evolution debate - that some people view the theory of evolution as a threat to their religious beliefs. How
82 Boeing Nut : My thoughts exactly.
83 VSLover : wow. this has been a very interesting read, and at many points frustrating, and or enlightening. of course i believe in evolution and of the big bang
84 Kay : what puzzles me is regarding Adam & Eve: if their own kids mated and got more children, isn't most of these children going to have the trizomie 21 (mo
85 TACAA320 : The problem is that you can find same amount of evidence in the opposite sense. Equally respectable.
86 Logan22L : There is a simple answer: it's a parable so the simple-minded can be spoon-fed their beliefs. Logan
87 QR332 : I don't believe we evolved from apes. I don't believe that the entire human race was some mistake that happened after the big bang. But, I also believ
88 PA110 : OK, so what was God doing all that time before he created us? Was he busy elsewhere? Was there some other world that he was attending to?
89 Logan22L : An excellent question, PA110. Hard to answer given the western perception of God. I subscribe to a more esoteric view of God, that God represents the
90 DeltaMD11 : Yes, I do believe in the Theory of Evolution. It is fairly clear to me that an evolutionary process has occured on this Earth over the last several hu
91 QR332 : I can just as equally ask you how did the world start. Was it "just there"? It makes much more sense that a higher power was there first that created
92 TACAA320 : For God there is no time nor space. At least in the form we all know them.
93 DeltaMD11 : Well on the same wavelength, where did "God" come from? How did God just pop up and create according to his vision? I think that we're far from ever k
94 L410Turbolet : I guess he was practicing his creative skills somewhere elswe. I wonder if that other "mankind" is just as screwed up as this one? He needs more prac
95 TACAA320 : Somebody who claims to know too much about science, said (can´t remember the thread) that nobody can prove a theory (eg evolution, gravity, etc.). S
96 TedTAce : I'll prove Gravity to you from a plane, I'll be wearing a parachute while you are not and we will see if gravity is 'just a theory'
97 Post contains images TACAA320 : I was just referring to what other a.netter said. That´s all. I agree with you, not with him-her. By the way, I´m already wearing mine (before you)
98 Bezoar : Regarding the question that was addressed to me a bit ago: I think I was referring to the manner in which the theory has generally been pushed. I pers
99 DeltaMD11 : So you say that theories go unproven yet in a following post you say that you still adhere to what is stated therein. In this case the THEORY of gravi
100 Klaus : Bezoar: As science is supposed to be impartial and objective, it is unable to factor God into the equations as being a participant. Science is not una
101 MD11Engineer : What will they do if, as recent results of astrophysics, point to the existence of parallel universes? Or almost every wekk now, there are new planets
102 Bezoar : Klaus, once again I'm going to reveal my ignorance. Am I understanding correctly that this "gene recombination through sexual reproduction" theoretica
103 Klaus : Bezoar: Am I understanding correctly that this "gene recombination through sexual reproduction" theoretically leads to new species? Yes, although addi
104 MD11Engineer : Bezoar, Every sexual mating leads to a recombination of the genes of the parents. A sperm cell and an egg cell each contains 1/2 of the total amounts
105 TedTAce : umm your only several hundred billion years off Even though I TOTALLY disagree with most of what you say, I'm glad you admit this as easily as I do.
106 Post contains links MD-90 : So if it can't be disproven, then it's factually true? That's not science, that's akin to religious faith. What empirical evidence? Evolution is more
107 Post contains images N229NW : NO! THAT IS SCIENCE, and it is exactly the opposite of how religious faith works. Faith asks you not to try to disprove explanations, but to take the
108 CORULEZ05 : the evolution theory is just a bunch of nonsense put together so that all of you anti-religion people have something to believe in. For some reason, s
109 Post contains images Kilavoud : When looking at some persons just acting like monkeys, I would feel like sometimes falling in this snare-theory. But no, I consider this theory as to
110 Sebolino : You are COMPLETELY wrong, guy. First, it's a proven fact that the human race (and the others) has evolved. Enough skeletons have been found and they
111 JGPH1A : Er, hellooo !! While EVERYTHING must originally have been 'natural', to simply say it's 'natural' and leave at that denies the very essence of scient
112 Post contains images Pe@rson :
113 Aerorobnz : That's not true. The Man that developed the idea towards it's modern form, Darwin, was at the time of release, an fervently religious man. Also when
114 Post contains images Klaus : JGPH1A, you nailed it yet again!
115 Aerorobnz : Yep he's the next "La Vipère Noire".
116 Aloges : Yep, I believe in it much like I believe in all facts. And yet, I do believe there is some kind of God... silly me. Errrr... have you ever heard the w
117 Allstarflyer : That's a bit narrow a view. And most of the rest of the world, too, for that matter. A theory that has been reshaped and remolded so often, with so m
118 DeltaMD11 : Well no damn duh Sherlock. That is what science is all about. The word science is a cognate of the latin verb 'scire' which means: to know. The whole
119 Caribb : LOL... and I hear the Sun revolves around the Earth too... To answer the question, yes I believe in evolution. Perhaps though, the Bible is just a se
120 MD11Engineer : As long as nobody brings better evidence, which fits better with the observable facts and experimental results, I support the theory of evolution. If
121 Post contains images Klaus : Allstarflyer: A theory that has been reshaped and remolded so often, with so many researchers who have differing opinions on the age of the universe a
122 TedTAce : I'm right with you on this one.. Which God should I believe in?? The wrath of God old testament or the loving God/Jesus/holy ghost new testament? Or
123 TACAA320 : You are free to believe in whatever you want. That's precisly called "free will". Others like me [an active Catholic], freely decided to believe in o
124 Ilikeyyc : Well, after 120 and some odd replies, I'm not going to read them all. My answer to the question is not simple. I believe that God created the Earth an
125 TACAA320 : Amen!
126 Scbriml : That isn't evolution. The vast majority of humans derive no benefit from being taller than they were 300 years ago, so we didn't evolve to be taller.
127 TedTAce : For the RECORD. I respect those who are passionate believers when it come from their heart, and they understand that not everyone is like them. If yo
128 TACAA320 : Just for the RECORDS. I believe in Him based in two things: 1) Faith, 2) Conviction.
129 TACAA320 : Me too.
130 Post contains links and images Allstarflyer : A whole range of matters? How about pointing out just 1 thing that I'm "confusing". Who said this? I found this website that would support your state
131 Bezoar : There's been something in the back of my mind that I wanted to say, but IÕve had the most difficult time trying to figure out what it was. IÕll try
132 TACAA320 : Yes that's right. Nevertheless, I go to church to satisfy in part an spiritual need. Not even you have the right to tell me how to live mine.[Edited
133 Post contains images TedTAce : You ROCK!! Biblically speaking... ummm I do. As far as 'is it POSSIBLE that god snapped his fingers and boom there the universe as we know it came in
134 Post contains links and images Klaus : Klaus: Sorry, but you´re confusing a whole range of matters. No wonder it leads you to a wrong conclusion as well. Allstarflyer: A whole range of mat
135 Post contains images Klaus : Bezoar: So, what was a mere potential eons ago is thus revealed in the magnificence of man. That is certainly one way to look at it; It´s still quite
136 Allstarflyer : Dude, too much into which I'd like to delve right now, and not enough time. I'm off for the next 3 days, but that doesn't mean I won't post on this la
137 Aerorobnz : I think Faith comes from having the Convictions of belief, don't you? I don't believe that you can have faith without having conviction. That was one
138 TACAA320 : Believe or not, that's the way it is. Whether you like it or not. Faith and conviction. Two separate and different things. In my case I have both [an
139 Kovi17 : Amen brother, if anyone read the book of revelations in the bible im pretty sure right then and there you would believe in god
140 JGPH1A : Why ? Revelations is just some 'shroom-induced stream of conciousness ramblings from some loony locked up on Patmos. It hardly qualifies as a serious
141 Aerorobnz : I really don't follow your train of thought. TACA makes sense with his reasoning, yours lacks any coherence whatsoever.
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