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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29799 posts, RR: 58
Posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 1363 times:

Hidy ho guys.

Some of you may have noticed, some may not have but I haven't been around at all the last month.The reason was that I was afforded the chance to take an aircraft dispatching course. Four weeks and 240 hours of instruction I am now endorsed to take the dispatcher written, which I hope to do this weekend.

Anyway, just thought I would like to make a list you may find interesting of some of the highlights of the trip.

1. Once you have internet you never go back. For the first couple of weeks, internet access was spotty at best. Since I was still trying to complete coursework at the University of Alaska-Anchorage and attend the dispatcher school this proved very incovinent. I was not aware how dependent I was on internet for college paper research until I didn't have it.

2. Speaking of my UAA professors, thank god they are very understanding. THey know that I have been out of work and not having the dispatcher license was really holding back my future opportunities. I may still pass the four classes that I had this fall despite having disapeared for the last four weeks of the semester. I have one final to take on Monday, and then maybe I will get some results.

3. My hatred of the United States Air Force is reconfirmed. For those of you who don't know, I am still pised off at USAF because their weather detachment that was assigned to my army unit got extra money to stay in the same barracks I did, we army types got squat. The Air Force considered the building substandard, the army did not.

Fast forward to the school that is actually a residental (boarding) high school which also sponsors adult programs like the one I attended. The school was set up using several buildings on the former Galena Air Station, which is now on caretaker status. One of the buildings the school gets to use is the gym. I spent a few hours a few nights in there. The equipment in there was much much nicer then what we had in the gyms I say in the Army. Then it got worse to find out that it was installed two years ago...The Air Force hasn't based people there since the late 1990's. Your tax dollars at work.

4. The FAA, not too speak ill of them, but they need to fire whoever wrote the test questions. Or at least find somebody that can write and do arithmetic. Also working under a dispatcher under 135 I saw how a large block of questions absoluting had nothing to do with the tasks assigned to a disptacher....why the hell do I need to know how to read an HSI???? Why the hell does a dispatcher need to know what happens when a Pitot gets ice blocked???

There is something to be said for having a general knowledge of aircraft and aviation, but don't waste our time comming up with test questions that have nothing to do with the tasks of a dispatcher.

And finally......my favorite.

5. It is always a good day when you get to feed on the flesh of an endangered species. In my case it was the skin and fat layer from a flipper of a bowhead whale.

Wasn't bad, taste kind of reminded me of salmon eggs. In case anybody was wondering how it was served. It was cut 1 or 1 1/4 ing long pieces, about a 1/4-1/3 of an inch square. the skin was on one end and the fat layer under. The way you eat it is raw but kind of like tequila. First you pop it into your mouth and then such on some salt you have one your hand.


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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 1362 times:

Quoting L-188 (Thread starter):
The Air Force considered the building substandard, the army did not.

Pussies. I hated that too.

Quoting L-188 (Thread starter):
It is always a good day when you get to feed on the flesh of an endangered species. In my case it was the skin and fat layer from a flipper of a bowhead whale.

Interesting. I've eaten Walrus and Beaver. That's about as exotic as I've gotten and I ws raised here . . . . I have of course had the usual, bear, musk-ox, caribou, moose, yadda, yadda. Never had whale.

I kinda like dried salmon - served similary to the whale meat you mention. Strips are smaller, and it's already salted. . . .

Glad you're back on A-Net.


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29799 posts, RR: 58
Reply 2, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 1358 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 1):
nteresting. I've eaten Walrus and Beaver. That's about as exotic as I've gotten and I ws raised here . . . . I have of course had the usual, bear, musk-ox, caribou, moose, yadda, yadda. Never had whale.

Well put me down for Caribou, Moose, Goose, Blacktail, Ptarmigan, Snowshoe, and Bison.

Thank god we live in a state where there is a season on the state bird Big grin

Oh I forgot to mention item #6, the bus.

The school had a bus for making runs to the store and post office. If you ever go to Galena the post office is sandwiched in between the Liquor store and a grociery store in what is known as "Old Town" Sometimes we had to park the bus in front of the liquor store....would have made a great picture.

Also the bus was a converted 83 Chevy van. Had the bus roof and windows but a van fram and front end. We went to the store one time in "New Town" Galena and the dozen of us piled out of the bus. There was this girl at the top of the stairs to the store who couldn't have been more then three years old. As I was passing her and her farther going into the store, she asked her dad, "Is that the little bus or the big bus" And then she asked why all of those big people, at least four of us where pushing 250lbs where getting off the little bus......it was just too cute.



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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1357 times:

Quoting L-188 (Reply 2):
Thank god we live in a state where there is a season on the state bird

My partner hit a flock of them damn silly birds last week, he was about mile 318 on the Dalton, just south of Pump Station 2. It took out his windshield, right rear-view mirror, blue lights on the roof, grill, hell it took out his rear window?

I asked him, quite deadpan mind you, "what the hell did you do, back UP to hit a couple more!?" There were eighteen Ptarmigan carcasses on the truck in various stages of disrepair!

We tossed them out into the yard, the Ravens had a field day. Nothing but feathers and a gut pile in a few hours . . . .

Quoting L-188 (Reply 2):
"Is that the little bus or the big bus"

SO, it's true, you took the little bus to school?  biggrin   rotfl 


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29799 posts, RR: 58
Reply 4, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1355 times:

No they made us walk there, but in order to get to the store in town, yes.

BTW: 16 dollars will get you 4 cans of pringles chips and 2 Henry Winharts Root Beers at the store. At the closer of the two stores 1 litre of Mountain Dew was $3.25. Gas was 4.75 a gallon when I was there and if you went to Archies the beer was 3 dollars a can, your choice of MGD, Budwiser, Oly or Bud Light.



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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1352 times:

Prices will drop for a bit now as the river will open up and the barges can get through.

The Ice went out in Nenana yesterday, so the balance of the rivers will open soon. It's always a dicey prospect when the Yukon goes out, the bridge on the Dalton the pipeline and the road. Occasionally, standing on that bridge, you can feel a good size chunk of ice hit it . . . .


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29799 posts, RR: 58
Reply 6, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1348 times:

Well you probably know Galena is about 200 miles downstream of Nenana, so it was still pretty solid looking when we flew out, but in the next could of days it should turn.

Actually we still had 0 degree weather until last week and 3 feet of snow on the ground out there.

Global warming my arse.



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User currently offlineCaptoveur From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1339 times:

I think that is the most I have ever seen L-188 write at one time

User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1325 times:

Quoting L-188 (Thread starter):
why the hell do I need to know how to read an HSI???? Why the hell does a dispatcher need to know what happens when a Pitot gets ice blocked???

(From WHAT LITTLE Research I did on being a dispatcher) I would imagine it's to have more empathy/understanding for what's going on up there. Remember, dispatch schools call dispatchers 'PIC's on the ground' as in some senses you have 1/2 the responsibility of the flight. I know that's probably crap, but I'd like to know that any planes I was respnsible for were as clear of icing as possible.

Quoting L-188 (Reply 4):
Gas was 4.75 a gallon

(Speking as an ignorant lower 48 person who's only been as close to Alaska as KSEA) Don't they have the FU¢KING PIPELINE up there?!?!? WTF?


User currently offlineRsmith6621a From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 194 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1324 times:

L-188 asked........4. The FAA, not too speak ill of them, but they need to fire whoever wrote the test questions. Or at least find somebody that can write and do arithmetic. Also working under a dispatcher under 135 I saw how a large block of questions absoluting had nothing to do with the tasks assigned to a disptacher....why the hell do I need to know how to read an HSI???? Why the hell does a dispatcher need to know what happens when a Pitot gets ice blocked???

Answer......Because as a dispatcher you need to have some if not the same knowledge as the Flight Crew in some areas....2.when a Pitot gets ice blocked??? ...that is a pretty serious question which gives the FAA an idea if you understand basic flight concepts.

L188 if you cant accept these standards that are many years old and have worked flawless then maybe you should reconsider being a ADX...Maybe you should call your old buddy on 1600 Pen Ave in DC and get him to change it for you but then again he was a lousy pilot to......I got my ADX ticket with only 1 oral question incorrect and was only 200 pound of fuel over...my written was passed with 96%......if I can do it......shirley Smile you can to.

BTW I am working for a flag carrier as a FT ADX now.



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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1309 times:

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 8):
(Speking as an ignorant lower 48 person who's only been as close to Alaska as KSEA) Don't they have the FU¢KING PIPELINE up there?!?!? WTF?

Yeah Ted, they got the pipe. And fuel prices are as high as anywhere else. Why is that . . . because although we suck it out of the ground here, we have only one refinery and it general makes Jet Fuel!

The crude is exported, refined and brought back. Ain't that silly.

Also, any of these villages and towns must have everything, literally everything flown in during the winter. There are no roads. In the summer, the rivers are our roads in most places.


User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1306 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 10):
Ain't that silly.

almost totally dumb!!


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29799 posts, RR: 58
Reply 12, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1306 times:

Quoting Rsmith6621a (Reply 9):
......I got my ADX ticket with only 1 oral question incorrect and was only 200 pound of fuel over...my written was passed with 96%......if I can do it......shirley you can to.

BTW I am working for a flag carrier as a FT ADX now.

Well if you passed it.

Actually everybody in the class was raising these issues, and out of the 8 people in the class, 6 of us where already dispatching or flight following 135, One part 121 and 125, and the other was the Director of Safety for the same 121/125 carrier.

So unlike the other ADX course in this state, everybody had considerable experience going into it and where critical of the same types of questions.

Quoting L-188 (Thread starter):
There is something to be said for having a general knowledge of aircraft and aviation, but don't waste our time comming up with test questions that have nothing to do with the tasks of a dispatcher.

Did you read this line? I understand why a general knowledge is needed, but some of the specific questions go way beyond a basic knowledge.

There are questions that intend to probe the basic knowledge and those that are only related specificly to pilot functions.

Besides I learned a hell of a lot more about airplanes through my eventual aviation Tech minor then I did in this course.



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User currently offlineRsmith6621a From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 194 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1285 times:

L-188.....

To be cival and supportive of your concern.

My instructor told us to read the ASA or Gleim ATP and then take the test and then..........Forget Everything you read in it.....You'll never see these questions again......WRONG.......I have interviewed with UAL for a position in Dispatch Support,90% of the 50 questions they ask are out of the ATP and YES I do feel your concern/complaint.

Where are you taking your studys.........I heard if you go to Schefield in FL they give you the ATP book on a tuesday and tell you... YOU!!!...will take the test on FRIDAY and if you dont pass with 80% you are sent packing with no course pro-rated refund.


Enjoy your FAA Exam......Ill give you some tips if you are interested.



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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29799 posts, RR: 58
Reply 14, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1282 times:

It was a course that was held by the Galena City School District, post-secondary education program. They got a state grant to fund the program, that grant paid the tuition for the course, room and board for the participants, and we had a 700 dollar allowance for transportation costs, that I didn't bust, so basicly I am getting my Dispatch certificate for free. I just have to pay the fees for the testing, written and practical.

The state grant covered two classes, this was the second, it might get funded again if another grant can be purcured. It is considered workforce development and since I was unemployed I qualified. Everybody else was working by there is a lot of interest in getting licensed people because in the near future anybody that hauls mail will have to be 121 not 135.

We used the ASA book and computerized test program. Seems to be a better book then the Gleim ones I have seen, but the Gleim program seems to me to be a better test prep program.

That course is why I was up in Galena for the past month, now I just need to get over to Take-flight to take the written next week and the practical after that now that I am back on the road system.



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User currently offlineRsmith6621a From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 194 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1279 times:

What I really enjoy about telling people I am a ADX is when they ask me what is like to work in a tower. Smile


Man I hope that we dont satruate the market with ADX as that will drive the $$$ earned down. What carrier are/were you 135in for?



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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29799 posts, RR: 58
Reply 16, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 1268 times:

Quoting Rsmith6621a (Reply 15):
What I really enjoy about telling people I am a ADX is when they ask me what is like to work in a tower

Had to do that a few times when describing what it was I used to do, and the school I went to.

Quoting Rsmith6621a (Reply 15):
Man I hope that we dont satruate the market with ADX as that will drive the $$$ earned down. What carrier are/were you 135in for?

I am going to hold off on mentioning the name of the carrier until I get another job. Sorry but I still need them to give recommendations when potential employers call.

But it was the same one that Trotterwrench used to work at.

Operated LJ25/35, Citation Casa 212, Merlin and Metro and Volpar Beech 18 conversions.

Was a lot of fun, since we did a lot of medivac work, especially in my first years there you actually felt like you made a difference.

In the later years, being a BBA major and working there provided....lets just say and intersting contrast and commentary on management.



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