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MLB Winners And Losers, Month One  
User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 941 times:

With April a memory, who are the winners and losers of the first month?

Team wise, the winners are: the Chicago White Sox, Baltimore Orioles and the Los Angeles Dodgers.

The Losers: The Yankees, Indians, Royals and Rockies. (Put the Indians at the bottom, far as I'm concerned. Any team hitting .225 out of the gate, and with shoddy defense, deserves to be at the bottom of the heap).

Your take on the teams and any individual winners and losers.

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User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 939 times:

If it isin't the Marlins, I don't care, no matter how much winning or loosing they are doing!!

User currently offlineORDflyer From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 511 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 937 times:

Definitely consider the White Sox the top winner...I don't think anyone expected them to have such a good record coming out of spring training.
I'll add the Cubs to the list of losers that you have...Nomar going out on injury and now Kerry Wood is looking like he may be injury prone for the rest of the season. Looks like it may be another mediocre season for the northsiders


User currently offlineTexan From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 4280 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 918 times:

The Baltimore Orioles are the most surprising team so far. White Sox are surprising, but many people expected them to do fairly well. Just not as well as they have so far Smile

Individually, Chan Ho Park is a pleasant surprise here in Texas. He has had a few quality starts, has an ERA under 4.00 and is looking really sharp out there for the first six innings. He seems to get tired after the 6th, however.

The Marlins starting pitching is a winner, with the exception of one game by Al Leiter. They are simply dominating right now. Unfortunately the same cannot be said for their offense.

A-Rod for one game was a winner. Kevin Brown is, yet again, a loser. The Anaheim Angels are losers. Yes, they are on top of the division by 1 game, but they are completely stacked. With a mostly unproven A's staff (more on that in a second), a Rangers team that is not hitting all that well and has spotty pitching at best, and the Seattle Mariners as the only competition, the Angels should be further ahead right now.

A's pitchers Danny Haren and Rich Harden. Harden has been absolutely lights out, and Haren has been very strong. If they continue to be dominant throughout the season, and Zito comes along, the A's could very well make the playoffs.

Texan



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User currently offlineAAFLT1871 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2333 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 915 times:

Let's not forget the Washington Nationals so far. A suprise to say the least.


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User currently offlineTbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7013 posts, RR: 26
Reply 5, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 907 times:

Angels are losers for being number one in their division? That is a pretty tough division, you should know if you're a Rangers fan, that's a good team.

My winners are the Dodgers, White Sox, Orioles, and Nationals.



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User currently offlineLHMARK From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 7255 posts, RR: 46
Reply 6, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 900 times:

Individually, 5'7" 175lb Orioles shortstop Brian Roberts has been the biggest surprise of the season so far. Hitting .367 with 8 home runs, the formerly light-batted Roberts has crushed in April. I was able to catch Roberts when he played for Rochester and it was obvious the kid had talent, but he's generating great power as well as making the defensive playes and stealing bases. Hey Selig, wanna send a urine kit over here?  Smile


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User currently offlineUsairwys757 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 883 times:

Quoting LHMARK (Reply 6):
Hey Selig, wanna send a urine kit over here?

Exactly what I was thinking Mark. How can you go from having little to no power, to jacking them out of the park every other at bat? Kinda suspicious if you ask me.  Wink


User currently offlineTPASXM787 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1730 posts, RR: 19
Reply 8, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 857 times:

The biggest winner is the fans and the game because Bonds hasn't stepped on the field yet and hopefully won't anytime soon.

Team wise:

Winners:

BAL: Roberts has been amazing, and the pitching staff is throwing strikes. Don't know how long it can last, but a good start.

LAD: Lowe has been great, Depodesta looks like a genius so far.

CWS: Timely hitting, good pitching, good start.

Losers:

NYY: Look at what $200M buys you. An old pitching staff that can't get anyone out. Look at that pen. Stanton?? Ton Gordon??? Do they really expect to get anyone out? They need to seriously re-evaluate where that team is going.

TB: Vince Naimoli is a jackass. He made $26M last year and they still have the lowest payroll in the league. Bastard.



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User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 33
Reply 9, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 838 times:

Winners: O's, ChiSox, D-Back's, and Dodgers
Losers: Yank's, BoSox

Tom at MSY



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User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 52
Reply 10, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 834 times:

The joke here about the Rockies is that we go to see the AAA Colorado Rockies down at Coors Field (that might be giving them too much credit, maybe it should be "AA Colorado Rockies")...they are having a rough season as always, this year cause their roster is filled with rookies fresh out of AAA and a couple of 2nd year men, but no one with much experience except Todd Helton and Desi Relaford ...also the starting pitchers do an ok job, but the bullpen is just terrible...

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User currently offlineGreyhound From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1026 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 834 times:

Just thinking of my two favorite teams: Baltimore (born there), and Arizona (live there).

I'm very happy with how Baltimore is doing. Haven't seen this much excitement since #8 was at shortstop. But my huge concern lies with their pitching staff. Sure, their offense will beat the snot out of you, but is their staff good enough to compete all year? I mean, look at Ponson... what's his ERA right now, 6 something? Ryan's a decent closer, and the rest of their bullpen isin't too shabby, but that rotation still worries me.

Arizona just surprises me. A winning record right now, but I still think the Dodgers will win the NL West. Better pitching staff in L.A. I am happy to see Troy Glaus doing so well... traditional lower average, but more home runs for him. Their pitching staff is suspect for me too... Javier V., Russ Ortiz, Shawn Estes... decent, but I sure miss the Big Unit there. I'm happy about Brandon Lyon closing for them... I'd stick with him for good in that role. What do they do when Greg Aquino gets back?

On the rest of the NL West... what happened to the Giants? Barry Bonds out for a while, now Armando Benitez possibly out for the season, or at least 4 months. That's surprising to me.



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User currently offlineHomer71 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2245 posts, RR: 14
Reply 12, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 829 times:

Houston Astros (9-13), no offense whatsoever. Last season, they were shutout a total of 3 times. After the first month of this season, they've been shutout 5 times already.

Roger Clemens had a streak of 21 scoreless innings. Unfortunately, the Astros scored a total of ZERO runs in those 21 innings.

Hopefully, with Berkman due back soon, they can pick it up. Nice 9-3 win over Prior and the Cubs yesterday...



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User currently offlineBiggles From Canada, joined Dec 2004, 459 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 825 times:

The Blue Jays had a decent April. Taking 2 out of 3 in Yankee Stadium was nice.. Smile

User currently offlineMGA From Nicaragua, joined Mar 2005, 726 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 824 times:

Quoting TPASXM787 (Reply 8):
LAD: Lowe has been great, Depodesta looks like a genius so far.

Looks like the chemistry is working... but I think Perez and Penny are looking better than Lowe... Wait till Gagne is back, although Brazoban has been excelent. I hope they keep it up...

Looks like the AL west is gonna be a tricky one...

MGA



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User currently offlineGreyhound From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1026 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 819 times:

Quoting MGA (Reply 14):
Looks like the AL west is gonna be a tricky one.

I'd have to agree. Will Barry Zito ever be #1 caliber again? I don't understand why he looks more fit to be pitching in the 5 hole for the Royals as opposed to the #1 or #2 for the A's. I think they'll improve when they get Bobby Crosby back. That injury hurts for sure. What about their other starters though? Rich Harden is Cy Young material, but who else can carry them into the playoffs? Not Zito, at least as of late. I think they'd contend for the wild card, but I'm not sure they'd get that if Zito doesn't snap out of it.

The Angels look to me like they have the best shot right now. Bartolo Colon isin't what he used to be or could be, but their staff is solid enough to get them into the playoffs, even if not into the WS itself. They have a good lineup too, except for who's at 3rd right now??? I wonder if McPherson is as good as everyone thought he was at the beginning of the season. And Finley is a good outfielder, but his average can get way better.

The Mariners are like everyone else, a decent lineup, but suspect pitching. It seems like their bullpen is holding up, but Pineiro and Meche both have around 5.0something ERAs. I would think with Don Baylor as a hitting coach, they'd be piecing some more runs together. Ichiro is off and running as usual, so that's a good sign.

Texas has a good lineup still, but just like everyone else in their division, their pitching staff is what ails them. My opinion anyhow.



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User currently offlineTbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7013 posts, RR: 26
Reply 16, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 787 times:

Quoting Greyhound (Reply 11):
rizona just surprises me. A winning record right now, but I still think the Dodgers will win the NL West.

Didn't the Diamondbacks sweep the Dodgers last week? It put them in first place in the NL West temporarily. It shows they are a dangerous team. Thankfully, Dodgers are back in first place, but currently down 2-1 to the Nationals in the 8th.

Quoting MGA (Reply 14):
Looks like the AL west is gonna be a tricky one...

No kidding! Its a tight conference, I hope the Angels can pull it out, but its way too hard to call this early in the season.



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User currently offlineAirlinerfreak From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 783 times:

Wow....lokee my Dodgers have the best record in MLB. Nobody thought they would be good......

User currently offlineAerobalance From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 4683 posts, RR: 47
Reply 18, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 780 times:

Quoting Tbar220 (Reply 5):
Angels are losers for being number one in their division? That is a pretty tough division, you should know if you're a Rangers fan, that's a good team.

Mind you, some, if not all, Rangers fans can't see past their shortsideness and recognize a decent team if it hit them in the face....



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User currently offlineGreyhound From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1026 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 765 times:

Quoting Tbar220 (Reply 16):
Didn't the Diamondbacks sweep the Dodgers last week? It put them in first place in the NL West temporarily. It shows they are a dangerous team.

True, they can be dangerous, but after 100+ losses last year, I have trouble believing they can just do a 180 and make the playoffs. A chance, especially with San Francisco's injuries, but the Dodgers look like the better team. And yes, I'm a Diamondbacks fan. But I'm not convinced yet. Just like I'm an Orioles fan, but their starting pitching still gives me the willies.



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User currently offlineCactusA319 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2918 posts, RR: 25
Reply 20, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 763 times:

Quoting Falcon84 (Thread starter):
The Losers: The Yankees, Indians, Royals and Rockies.

Of these the biggest loser of the month is the Yankees. Check these numbers out:

$205 million payroll = 10-14 record

Nice ROI Steinbrenner! Maybe next year you can go out and buy some pitchers who aren't falling apart, some players who can actually catch the ball, and some more consistent hitters.

The Royals, Rockies and Indians are obviously losers too, but nobody expected any of those teams to do a whole lot anyway so its no surprise that they suck.

The Cubs also qualify as losers because the injury bug is once again biting them in the ass (Nomar, Walker, Borowski, and now Wood) and the bullpen is messed up. Add to that the fact that Dusty Baker is managing and well....At least they won't lose 95 games this year.

The big winners so far are the Orioles, White Sox and Dodgers, altough it's debatable if the O's and ChiSox can keep it up all year.


User currently offlineFlyMIA From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7213 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 740 times:

Quoting Texan (Reply 3):
The Marlins starting pitching is a winner, with the exception of one game by Al Leiter. They are simply dominating right now. Unfortunately the same cannot be said for their offense.

That is the problem with the Marlins offense it is not consitant. If the Marlins hit the ball well they will win alot more games because their starting pitching is amazing so far this year.



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User currently offlineGreyhound From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1026 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 725 times:

I would think Florida would be better with Carlos Delgado... but it seems like Mike Lowell has stalled. What's going on there?


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User currently offlineTbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7013 posts, RR: 26
Reply 23, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 716 times:

Quoting Greyhound (Reply 19):
True, they can be dangerous, but after 100+ losses last year, I have trouble believing they can just do a 180 and make the playoffs.

Well I hope so too! Adding a dangerous Diamondbacks team back into the NL West mix sure doesn't help out the Dodgers much  Silly



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User currently offlineGreyhound From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1026 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 715 times:

I'm still a Diamondbacks fan (Orioles too) but their pitching is still suspect. As are the Orioles' starting pitchers. I just like to be honest with what I think of how my team(s) are doing.


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