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Where Is Iraq Heading?  
User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1192 times:

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...u=/ap/20050502/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq

I will ask no more to avoid any accusations of being not objective..



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User currently offlineCURLYHEADBOY From Italy, joined Feb 2005, 940 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1183 times:

Iraq has become the Islamic integralism Vs. US war theater. That's not going to make things easy for this troubled country. I'm quite pessimistic, I don't see a way out of it, at least in the close future.  Sad


If God had wanted men to fly he would have given them more money...
User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1168 times:



User currently offlineNZ747 From New Zealand, joined Dec 2004, 967 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1155 times:



User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12266 posts, RR: 18
Reply 4, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1153 times:
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Quoting NZ747 (Reply 3):

LOL, thats a good one rotfl 


User currently offlineBRAVO7E7 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 1840 posts, RR: 17
Reply 5, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1142 times:

The answer is simple. Only time will tell. We can speculate all we want, but in the end it will be up to the Iraqi people.

User currently offlineL410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5738 posts, RR: 19
Reply 6, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1125 times:

Quoting BRAVO7E7 (Reply 5):
but in the end it will be up to the Iraqi people.

This one is even better!!!  rotfl   rotfl 


User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1118 times:

The original post said...

Quoting BRAVO7E7 (Reply 5):
but in the end it will be up to Halliburton the Iraqi people.


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1099 times:

Through their patronage in the election process, the general Iraqi populace has demonstrated that they're ready and willing to undergo the work and inherent risk in establishing a democratic government.

It's up to the USA and the powers at large to facilitate this for them... however that goes, will be the fate of the country.


User currently offlineConcord977 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1261 posts, RR: 25
Reply 9, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1093 times:

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 8):
Through their patronage in the election process, the general Iraqi populace has demonstrated that they're ready and willing to undergo the work and inherent risk in establishing a democratic government.

What have you been smoking on your long hiatus away from us?



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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1093 times:

Unfortunately, nothing... why do you ask?

User currently offlineConcord977 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1261 posts, RR: 25
Reply 11, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1090 times:

What the Iraqi general population has 'demonstrated' is tightly choreographed image that our own occupying forces and administration want us to see, and want us to believe is 'progress' in a country that flirts with anarchy every day.


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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1088 times:

Quoting Concord977 (Reply 11):
What the Iraqi general population has 'demonstrated' is tightly choreographed image that our own occupying forces and administration want us to see

...then why, pray tell, were even some of the most virilently anti-USA/anti-war media sources around the world marvelling at said 'demonstration'?

Quoting Concord977 (Reply 11):
and want us to believe is 'progress' in a country that flirts with anarchy every day.

Ah yes, it's all a big conspiracy.


User currently offlineConcord977 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1261 posts, RR: 25
Reply 13, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1086 times:

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 12):
Ah yes, it's all a big conspiracy.

As jaded and sarcastic as ever, I see.

If I intended to mean a conspiracy, I would have used the word "conspiracy". Come up with a few of your own words for a change instead of pissing on mine.



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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1084 times:

Quoting Concord977 (Reply 13):
As jaded and sarcastic as ever, I see.

*takes a bow*

Quoting Concord977 (Reply 13):
Come up with a few of your own words for a change instead of pissing on mine.

...why work so hard, when the latter's just as effective cher?  Wink


User currently offlineConcord977 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1261 posts, RR: 25
Reply 15, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1082 times:

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 14):
...why work so hard, when the latter's just as effective cher?

Well, working harder would require your brain to engage. Pissing on my words only requires your, er, uh . . . that thing you're probably playing with at the moment.



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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1080 times:

...struck a nerve, eh?

Sheesh, calm down; I wasn't even trying  Silly


User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1058 times:

Man, today's and yesterdays news, one terrible attack after another

escalation / troops taking revenge/ breaking the rules could grow IMO

if a camera coincidently picks it up we have the next scandal

what a mess..

 Sad


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21794 posts, RR: 55
Reply 18, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1044 times:

Geographically, I think it's slowly moving out into the Persian Gulf. Politically, who the hell knows?

-Mir



7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 997 posts, RR: 51
Reply 19, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1044 times:

Quoting Keesje (Reply 17):
Man, today's and yesterdays news, one terrible attack after another, escalation / troops taking revenge/ breaking the rules could grow IMO

By any objective analysis, Iraq is improving, though very slowly. In 2003-2004, all we heard is bad news, but now we are getting some good and bad news. We live in a society that has decibalized war, therefore, every horror will be presented in its full horror. Personally, I wouldn't have it any other way, as it shows the reality of the world we live in, but it isn't fair to the progress that is taking place.

A car bomb makes the news. A school opening, a clinic opening, Iraqis recieving the right to travel... doesn't.

Quoting CURLYHEADBOY (Reply 1):
Iraq has become the Islamic integralism Vs. US war theater.

Try... Whabist fundamentalism versus United States liberalism. So easy for those with so much to content themselves when others have so little...

Quoting L410Turbolet (Reply 6):
This one is even better!!!

I'm really suprised that someone who spent half their life behind the iron curtain would have the balls to say that... eh well, your right. Enjoy it.

I don't understand Europe. The EU is enjoying amazing prosperity due to the liberal idealogy that the United States helped enforce for more than half a century. We helped you defeat autocracy, imperialism, facism, and communism... but once the coast is clear in Europe, your willing to stop? How selfish is that?

The U.S. spend billions upon billions ensuring liberalism would take root and flourish in Europe. It did, and now Europe is at the highest level of prosperity ever. Liberalism is the only and unequivicaly successful system of governence and you Europeans are living proof of it. Now, why the hell are you so reluctant to export it to the remainder of the world??

[Edited 2005-05-08 01:44:50]

User currently offlineFDXMECH From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3251 posts, RR: 34
Reply 20, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1032 times:

I think the general populace wants to live peacefully.

A group of criminals, terrorists, insurgents or whatever you prefer to call them is desperately trying to create self sustaining chaos. The Shiite majority has shown great self control to avoid this.

People like myself and others on this board want to be proven right, even if being proven correct means Iraq descending into the abyss.

I won't take the actions of a few despicable murderers with their heinous crimes and extrapolate that to mean this is the will of the Iraqi people any more than extrapolate the secret will and sympathies of Americans lie with criminals over here.



You're only as good as your last departure.
User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1020 times:

Quoting FDXMECH (Reply 20):
A group of criminals, terrorists, insurgents or whatever you prefer to call them

IMO a good versus bad view is oversimplification.

Remarkably I heard some of the killings are local folks that got their brother / father / son / uncle killed in the first or second Gulf war and are "taking one/a few back" to restore family honor.


User currently offlineAirlinelover From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 5580 posts, RR: 22
Reply 22, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 997 times:

Straight to hell were it belongs. At least, unless they DEAL with the insurgetns (see nuke the country and re-start it..)

Chris



Lets do some sexy math. We add you, subtract your clothes, divide your legs and multiply
User currently offlineCORULEZ05 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 993 times:

Iraq will be right back where it started. The US will EVENTUALLY leave and they will resume their old ways of living. Why? Because you can't teach these people democracy in a few years when they have lived a different lifestyle for ALL their lives. Too bad all those deaths of soldiers and civilians will be a waste.

User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 997 posts, RR: 51
Reply 24, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 989 times:

Quoting CORULEZ05 (Reply 23):
Because you can't teach these people democracy in a few years when they have lived a different lifestyle for ALL their lives

Germany and Japan did it, and it didn't take decades either.


25 AirWillie6475 : Which heading did other U.S invaded countries go? Religion is a bitch though so it might take the Iraqi's longer to adapt.
26 Klaus : DfwRevolution: Germany and Japan did it, and it didn't take decades either. Yes, it did. And both cases were fundamentally different from Iraq in indi
27 Post contains images JGPH1A : We already did - remember all the British, German, French, Spanish, Italian etc etc empires ? That was us, exporting our political system to the worl
28 Post contains images Jasepl : ROFL ! Still toeing the party line I see ! Unfortunately, they didn't stop there. Us colonials now have to live with some particularly scary 'exports
29 Post contains images JGPH1A : To have been granted the privilege of that most noble of pulses, the baked bean, by itself justifies the half millennium of oppression that it took t
30 Falcon84 : It should have been up to them, in the first place, Bravo7E7. We shouldn't have stuck our nose into their nation. We had no right to do what we did.
31 Post contains images Jasepl : Ha ha ha ha ! This should be directed towards QantasForever ! That would be fun !
32 Post contains images JGPH1A : I agree - he should kneel and kiss the Queen's feet in gratitude to the English for introducing the meat pie to his barren and hostile continent
33 Post contains images QANTASforever : HEY - I HEARD THAT!! I would rather kiss a manky pigeon than kiss the feet of that incompetent, incapable, delusional, twisted, archaic woman. She mak
34 Post contains images Gkirk : lmfao
35 Post contains images Jasepl : LMFAO ! Good job WFF ! I knew you would bite ! God save the Queen ! Vive la Reine !
36 QANTASforever : Oh yeah, clap clap buddy. You were winding me up? I had no idea!! (ffs.....) QFF
37 Post contains images JGPH1A : Just ignore me - you know I only do it to annoy you ! You are SO easy to wind up, just push the buttons and hey presto ! And you KNOW I do love Austr
38 QANTASforever : Geez, you just don't get it do you? Why do you think I keep responding to obvious wind ups? Could it be that I enjoy the conflict that is generated by
39 Gkirk : He's Elton John...
40 Logan22L : Strangely, I see the relevance of baked beans and meat pies to the future of Iraq. Logan
41 Jasepl : Well, it's not enough to just transform the political structure of the country. If you're going to do it, you may as well do it right ! So, no more s
42 JGPH1A : It is precisely because I love Australia that I endeavour ceaselessly to point out and correct the one blind spot in her citizens' normally broad and
43 QANTASforever : So, you're on a crusade to make Australians consider their nation the subject of humour? I certainly don't like that one bit. Nations should not be t
44 JGPH1A : I hope you're not serious. Nothing in this world can be sacrosanct, least of all political structures or entities of any description. If the populati
45 QANTASFOREVER : I love how this conversation has veered off in a completely different direction. Anyway.... It is illogical to disrespect what I believe is the spirit
46 Post contains images JGPH1A : Um, QFF... it was a meat pie joke. Nobody died, OK ? Take deep breaths...
47 Post contains images DeskPilot : QFF has been very restrained lately. However, occasionaly he has to vent
48 Post contains images JGPH1A : I can see why that would be necessary. Presumably heavy-set men and a canvas long-sleeved jacket were involved ?
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