CURLYHEADBOY From Italy, joined Feb 2005, 921 posts, RR: 2 Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 944 times:
Iraq has become the Islamic integralism Vs. US war theater. That's not going to make things easy for this troubled country. I'm quite pessimistic, I don't see a way out of it, at least in the close future.
If God had wanted men to fly he would have given them more money...
ConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 860 times:
Through their patronage in the election process, the general Iraqi populace has demonstrated that they're ready and willing to undergo the work and inherent risk in establishing a democratic government.
It's up to the USA and the powers at large to facilitate this for them... however that goes, will be the fate of the country.
Concord977 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1261 posts, RR: 29 Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 854 times:
Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 8): Through their patronage in the election process, the general Iraqi populace has demonstrated that they're ready and willing to undergo the work and inherent risk in establishing a democratic government.
What have you been smoking on your long hiatus away from us?
Concord977 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1261 posts, RR: 29 Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 851 times:
What the Iraqi general population has 'demonstrated' is tightly choreographed image that our own occupying forces and administration want us to see, and want us to believe is 'progress' in a country that flirts with anarchy every day.
DfwRevolution From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 19, posted (8 years 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 805 times:
Quoting Keesje (Reply 17): Man, today's and yesterdays news, one terrible attack after another, escalation / troops taking revenge/ breaking the rules could grow IMO
By any objective analysis, Iraq is improving, though very slowly. In 2003-2004, all we heard is bad news, but now we are getting some good and bad news. We live in a society that has decibalized war, therefore, every horror will be presented in its full horror. Personally, I wouldn't have it any other way, as it shows the reality of the world we live in, but it isn't fair to the progress that is taking place.
A car bomb makes the news. A school opening, a clinic opening, Iraqis recieving the right to travel... doesn't.
I'm really suprised that someone who spent half their life behind the iron curtain would have the balls to say that... eh well, your right. Enjoy it.
I don't understand Europe. The EU is enjoying amazing prosperity due to the liberal idealogy that the United States helped enforce for more than half a century. We helped you defeat autocracy, imperialism, facism, and communism... but once the coast is clear in Europe, your willing to stop? How selfish is that?
The U.S. spend billions upon billions ensuring liberalism would take root and flourish in Europe. It did, and now Europe is at the highest level of prosperity ever. Liberalism is the only and unequivicaly successful system of governence and you Europeans are living proof of it. Now, why the hell are you so reluctant to export it to the remainder of the world??
FDXMECH From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3251 posts, RR: 38 Reply 20, posted (8 years 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 793 times:
I think the general populace wants to live peacefully.
A group of criminals, terrorists, insurgents or whatever you prefer to call them is desperately trying to create self sustaining chaos. The Shiite majority has shown great self control to avoid this.
People like myself and others on this board want to be proven right, even if being proven correct means Iraq descending into the abyss.
I won't take the actions of a few despicable murderers with their heinous crimes and extrapolate that to mean this is the will of the Iraqi people any more than extrapolate the secret will and sympathies of Americans lie with criminals over here.
CORULEZ05 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 23, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 754 times:
Iraq will be right back where it started. The US will EVENTUALLY leave and they will resume their old ways of living. Why? Because you can't teach these people democracy in a few years when they have lived a different lifestyle for ALL their lives. Too bad all those deaths of soldiers and civilians will be a waste.