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A Question About Baseball...  
User currently offlineKieron747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 4 months 2 hours ago) and read 764 times:

Hello,

You might thinkh me a completely ingnorant Brit, but can someone answer me some questions about Baseball?

I watched my first game on TV last week and was trying to get to grips with the rules. So, here goes...

If the batsman misses the ball three times is he out?
If the batsman hits the ball and a fielder catches it is he out?
If the batsman whacks the ball outside of the field into the crowd, does he still have to run around the field?
If the batsman hits the ball, does he have to run or can he stay put?

Normally, I am a fan of cricket, but i have to say that I did quite enjoy watching Baseball the other day, so if anyone can help me with the rules, or any more information that would be great. Also, seeing as I know nothing of the game, which teams would you recommend watching for the best games?

Thanks

Kieron747

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User currently offlineLogan22L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 4 months 2 hours ago) and read 758 times:

Hey Kieron: If you had come to see us in Montreal, I could have answered these in person. 

Quoting Kieron747 (Thread starter):
If the batsman misses the ball three times is he out?

First, off, it a batter, or hitter. Three strikes and you are out. Whether it's a swing and a miss or a called strike by the umpire. Caveats: foul balls (balls not hit inside the foul lines along the first and third baselines) count as strike 1 or strike 2. A foul ball with two strikes is simply a foul, and the batter stays up there, unless he was trying to bunt. A foul bunt (a play in which the hitter squares around and tries to push the ball softly up a baseline to advance a runner or to get to first) with two strikes counts as a third strike, and he's out. Another caveat, the catcher must catch the third strike, or the hitter can run to first. If he beats it, he's safe at first.

Quoting Kieron747 (Thread starter):
If the batsman hits the ball and a fielder catches it is he out?

Yes. The fielder must catch it before it hits the ground, or a wall. Alternatively, if it bounces, the fielder can "force" him out a first (no tag needed, but a tag is OK before he gets to first, he's out), or a fielder can tag him with the ball in his glove (for example, if the batter is running from home, past first, and trying to get to second).

Quoting Kieron747 (Thread starter):
If the batsman whacks the ball outside of the field into the crowd, does he still have to run around the field?

Assuming it's a fair ball, yes. He must touch all bases in order.

Quoting Kieron747 (Thread starter):
If the batsman hits the ball, does he have to run or can he stay put?

He can stay put, but there's no point to doing that. All a fielder has to do is either "force" him out by throwing to first (the firstbaseman catches the ball with his foot on the base), or a fielder can tag him out. The batter's box is not a safe zone as in cricket.

Not quite as simple as rounders, is it? There's a thousand more rules; I'd be glad to share with you.

Logan

[Edited 2005-05-03 18:48:44]

User currently offlineXJRamper From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2460 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (9 years 4 months 2 hours ago) and read 750 times:

Quoting Kieron747 (Thread starter):
If the batsman misses the ball three times is he out?

If he swings and misses the ball three times, or strikes out, yes. However, there are foul lines that run from home plane (where the batter stands) to the wall. If the batter hits the ball outside those lines, then its considered a strike as well. However, if they do that more than three times, the batter only accumulates 2 strikes. (dont know the details behind that).

Quoting Kieron747 (Thread starter):
If the batsman hits the ball and a fielder catches it is he out?

Yes.

Quoting Kieron747 (Thread starter):
If the batsman whacks the ball outside of the field into the crowd, does he still have to run around the field?

Yes. thats called a homerun. For the home run to count, the batter must touch all four bases.

Quoting Kieron747 (Thread starter):
If the batsman hits the ball, does he have to run or can he stay put?

That depends. If he hit it in the field and it is a "fair" ball (inside the foul lines), then he needs to run to 1st base. But if he hits it foul, then they stay for another hit.

Hope that gives you some info.

XJR



Look ma' no hands!
User currently offlineGreyhound From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1026 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (9 years 4 months 2 hours ago) and read 745 times:

If the batter swings and misses three times, yes, that's a strikeout.

If the batter hits the ball and a fielder catches it BEFORE it hits the ground, he's out.

If the batter hits one out into the crowd IN BETWEEN THE FOUL POLES, it's a home run. Unless it hits the field first, then bounces into the stands, where it becomes a ground rule double, and all runners can advance only 2 bases. Anything hit into the crowd outside of the foul poles is a foul ball. The batter just goes back and tries again.

If the batter hits the ball, and does not run, he'll be working at a 7-11 by the end of the day.

As far as which teams to watch... take your pick... Not to pick on anyone, but any game involving the Kansas City Royals is just boring. If you like offense, Baltimore, New York (Yankees), Boston, LA Angels of Anaheim, Texas, and St. Louis. If you like pitching, Minnesota, Atlanta, New York (Yankees)*kinda, but not the way they're playing right now*, St. Louis, LA Dodgers, Chicago Cubs (they could be doing better)...

That's just my OPINION as far as who to watch...



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User currently offlineCptkrell From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3220 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (9 years 4 months 2 hours ago) and read 736 times:

>" If the batsman hits the ball and a fielder catches it is he out?"

Yes, and additionally, if the ball is caught by ANY player on the opposing team, in-bounds or out-of-bounds, he is out.

Typing in - rules of baseball - in your search engine will give you a wealth of sites for info (baseball has a wealth of rules, too; so many, they hard to keep track of, especially in rare-play instances). Regards....Jack



all best; jack
User currently offlineLogan22L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 4 months 2 hours ago) and read 733 times:

Quoting Kieron747 (Thread starter):
Also, seeing as I know nothing of the game, which teams would you recommend watching for the best games?

It's too bad that the Montreal Expos left town at the end of last season. You could have gone to see them and basically sat wherever you wanted for a low price (translation: they usually sucked, and no one cared up there).

Anyway, there's a lot of hype surrounding the Yankees-Red Sox rivalry (as most A.netters will tell you, they're sick of it). But, there's a fundamental problem with baseball: 4 or 5 teams have huge payrolls, and there is no revenue sharing, so for the last 10 years or so, small market teams (e.g., Milwaukee Brewers, Kansas City Royals) just have had no shot at the playoffs. So, the best games (i.e., teams with the best players, not always the best games) are often between teams like Boston, New York, Atlanta, Los Angeles, Houston, etc. Keep in mind, there are two leagues, American and National, and most of the games are played within each league, but there are some inter-league games also.

Notwithstanding what I said above, it looks like this year, the Yankees are off to a lousy start, Boston is so-so, and teams like Baltimore, Toronto, and Chicago are doing well. Your best best is to go to Toronto and try to take in a game against Baltimore, Boston, Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim  crazy , or Chicago White Sox.

Logan


User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 4 months 2 hours ago) and read 717 times:

I hope these help  Smile

Official site:
http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/index.jsp

Rules:
http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/of...l_info/official_rules/foreword.jsp

If you really read the rules, you'll probably know more then 'most yanks'  Smile


User currently offlineSLC1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 4 months ago) and read 693 times:

Quoting Kieron747 (Thread starter):
If the batsman misses the ball three times is he out?

One more very simple rule that people above have not explained, that is the idea of "balls," in other words the pitcher must put the ball inside of a strike zone, otherwise it's called a "ball." The batter can choose to swing at these, but if he misses it's a strike. If he doesn't swing, then it's a ball. Three strikes and the batter's out, but alternatively, if he gets four balls, he gets a "walk" to first base.


User currently offlineSeptember11 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3623 posts, RR: 21
Reply 8, posted (9 years 4 months ago) and read 684 times:

Quoting Kieron747 (Thread starter):
if anyone can help me with the rules, or any more information that would be great

never "talk back" to the umpire .... or you may be ejected from the game



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User currently offlineSeptember11 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3623 posts, RR: 21
Reply 9, posted (9 years 4 months ago) and read 682 times:

also .. when you hit homerun, your 3rd base coach will spank your butt when you run past 3rd base towards home plate  bigthumbsup 


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User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 10, posted (9 years 4 months ago) and read 680 times:

Quoting XJRamper (Reply 2):
However, if they do that more than three times, the batter only accumulates 2 strikes. (dont know the details behind that).

Unless you are bunting. If you bunt with two strikes, and you foul, you strike out.

Quoting Greyhound (Reply 3):
If the batter hits one out into the crowd IN BETWEEN THE FOUL POLES, it's a home run.

It's also a home run if he hits the actual foul pole itself.

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlinePROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5644 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (9 years 4 months ago) and read 668 times:

Quoting SLC1 (Reply 7):
One more very simple rule that people above have not explained, that is the idea of "balls," in other words the pitcher must put the ball inside of a strike zone, otherwise it's called a "ball." The batter can choose to swing at these, but if he misses it's a strike. If he doesn't swing, then it's a ball. Three strikes and the batter's out, but alternatively, if he gets four balls, he gets a "walk" to first base.

Also, if the pitcher puts the ball inside the strike zone and the batter does not swing, it is a strike, just as if he had swung and missed.



"Let me think about it" = the coward's way of saying "no"
User currently offlineFlyMIA From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7147 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 647 times:

Quoting Logan22L (Reply 1):
Another caveat, the catcher must catch the third strike, or the hitter can run to first. If he beats it, he's safe at first

That rule only applys if there is no runner on first base.

Quoting Greyhound (Reply 3):

As far as which teams to watch... take your pick... Not to pick on anyone, but any game involving the Kansas City Royals is just boring. If you like offense, Baltimore, New York (Yankees), Boston, LA Angels of Anaheim, Texas, and St. Louis. If you like pitching, Minnesota, Atlanta, New York (Yankees)*kinda, but not the way they're playing right now*, St. Louis, LA Dodgers, Chicago Cubs (they could be doing better)...

If you want to see a team with Awesome pitching and good hitting watch the Florida Marlins!

Also no one explained base running. Really dont have the time.
Baseball is a game of rules and there are alot to know. Watch a few more games you should start to get it.



"It was just four of us on the flight deck, trying to do our job" (Captain Al Haynes)
User currently offlineCaptOveur From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 645 times:

Quoting FlyMIA (Reply 12):
Also no one explained base running. Really dont have the time.

Someone could write a book on how to run bases.. It is almost an art that some players get, and others don't.


User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 14, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 644 times:

Want to get really confused? Read about balks here. It is item number 8.05. Rarely seen, and even more rarely understood.

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
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