GoCOgo From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 701 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1049 times:
He's an idiot. According to the local talk radio station, he was seen earlier in the day at some kind of stunt motorcycle show, and was seen speeding out of that event, doing a wheelie. Kind of takes away from the he was just trying to learn story his friends gave to the cops. And what good is a helmet if you don't strap it on?
At least the Browns may be able to get some money back. But he isn't a Ryan Leaf bust. This guy could play, only he is hurt. Ryan Leaf just sucked, and he got all his signing bonus. But he is stall a bust, just like all the other Butch Davis first round picks.
"Why you fly is your business, how you fly is ours"
Falcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1040 times:
I think that's a stretch. Cryin' Leaf killed his career in the locker room, and through thinking he was God's gift. Winslow blew his knee out on a play in a game, and then did a dumbass thing that he shouldn't have done.
Is he the dumbass athlete of the week? Sure is. Just coming off an injury, and with mini camps a few weeks off-AND, with your contract forbidding you from doing such stunts, that's just plain stupid.
We won't know the extent of his injuries until the swelling goes down in his knee and arm, but I'll bet he's out for the year.
Does that make him a big a bust as Leaf? Hardly, although he isn't endearing hmself to the people in Cleveland. He still has all the skills to be a great receiver, he just needs to grow up, or else he will end up like Leaf.
I just don't see where anyone can call an athlete, less than a year into his pro career, and who sat out his first year with a legit football injury a "bust".
KROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1006 times:
Sgt. Winslow is a bust. On the field and in the locker room. He ruined his reputation in the Miami Locker Room with his "Its war" blast. The guy gets no respect now, and when he continues to do dumb shit, he will never rise above it all. He's not Ryan Leaf, but he sucks in his own right.
Usairwys757 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 999 times:
God I hated that guy when he was in college. The cockiest bastard you will ever see in football. One of my favorite moments was last year when he got rocked by some guy. Freaking perfect, he deserved every bit of it. I believe he got blindsided.
TPASXM787 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1730 posts, RR: 19
Reply 7, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 976 times:
Winslow Jr is a jackass. He could lose all or part of his bonus over this...players have a clause about doing dumb shit like this. I've hated him ever since he dropped the "I'm a soldier" bomb. Kellen Sr could teach him a few things about football, and life.
Greyhound From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1026 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 953 times:
Quoting TPASXM787 (Reply 7): I've hated him ever since he dropped the "I'm a soldier" bomb.
I agree... well, maybe not HATED him. But nonetheless, I wasn't dissapointed one bit when he got injured last year. That talk of war and being soldiers and crap... same sort of attitude that got him into the mess he's in right now. I can't say whether he sucks or not... I've never seen him play a pro game yet! I know he has, but not enough for everybody to get a good view of what he can and can't do.
Falcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 946 times:
Quoting NYCFlyer (Reply 8): He may be a cocky bastard, but let's give him another chance to prove himself on an NFL field before we put him in the Leaf category.
Well, you will probably have to wait another year, if my guess is right. He'll be out this year, for sure.
Heard on the local sports talk radio this morning, WKNR, a soundbite from last year, when KW2 was holding out, and his agent, Tom Poston, responding to a questions said something like "We're not hear to make friends. This is the NFL. We're here to make money. It's business."
Well, Phil Savage ought to bring a recording of what he said last year into any meeting with Tom and his brother, and tell them, "we're not here to make friends, we're here to look out for the best interest of the Browns. Sorry, but this is business", and then take away his entire bonus. If Kellen and the Postons don't like it, I'd be happy to see him traded to another organization, who will put up with these three assholes.
And Slider, take your comment and shove it up your caboose? Coming from someone who lives in the most polluted city in the nation, you should talk. Put the "L" right on your forhead, numbnut.
Redngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 43
Reply 16, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 910 times:
I don't know if any of the other Cleveland-are A.netters have been to the Tri-C Corporate College campus in Westlake, but that parking lot is NOT a good place to be ramming around. The fact that there's relatively little shrubbery around it makes it seem bigger than it is, and yet there are trees twenty feet away from the curbs.
Kellen doesn't have a motorcycle endorsement on his driver's license, let alone a motorcycle learner's permit. In my mind, he's no better than the jerks who go out on the Shoreway with those little crotch-rocket motorcycles and speed at 100 mph until they wipe out on the Bratenahl curves. I rarely say this, but if he's got so much of an ego to think that he's invincible and can get away with that kind of ramming around, he deserves the injuries if it will make him think before he acts the next time.
The Browns should get a proportional amount of their money back - the more games he misses, the more money refunded. We payed dearly for a guy who's gone bust two seasons in a row - and the second time, it's his fault alone.
Actually, he did have his permit, but he had still only been riding for a short time. Still, it is no excuse, what he did was stupid.
Quoting Redngold (Reply 16): In my mind, he's no better than the jerks who go out on the Shoreway with those little crotch-rocket motorcycles and speed at 100 mph until they wipe out on the Bratenahl curves.
Last year, when I was driving home on 71 South from downtown just after midnight, one of those guys on his crotch-rocket flew past me going over 100 MPH. He was going so fast, and it was so dark, he wasn't able to see the hard curve about a mile and a half before the W.130 exit by the zoo. The image of him going straight into the grass and down the hill there is one that haunts me still.
Quoting Redngold (Reply 16): The Browns should get a proportional amount of their money back - the more games he misses, the more money refunded. We payed dearly for a guy who's gone bust two seasons in a row - and the second time, it's his fault alone.
Amen. He signed a contract, one that said that he could not participate in inherently dangerous activities like motorcycling. He breached the contract, and the Browns should try to get some money back or just cancel the contract. He signed it and knew what he was signing, and he should live with the terms he signed.
Slider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6970 posts, RR: 33
Reply 18, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 864 times:
Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 12): And Slider, take your comment and shove it up your caboose? Coming from someone who lives in the most polluted city in the nation, you should talk. Put the "L" right on your forhead, numbnut.
Couldn't resist....after all, my wife is a Steelers fan, so I knew she'd be proud of my Browns crackback.
Besides, I'm a Packers fan, I couldn't care less about the Brownies. For the record, I have a good amount of old-school respect for the Browns, esp Jim Brown, Otto Graham, et al. Nice stadium too--been there for a game.
Good to see your competitive football fires bruning though, Falcon...man, I can't wait until camp starts.