If you are ever in North Carolina and your a Democrat you are not welcome at this church. The pastor said "if they didn't support George Bush, they should resign or repent" and "the actions were not politically motivated."
Logan22L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 1492 times:
I just love it when assholes identify themselves. Far be it for me to defend the church, but I'm sure that this is not a widespread issue (although others may soon follow).
CORULEZ05 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1441 times:
Well, this guy is the leader of his church and therefore has the right to ban anyone he wants. I mean, why would a democrat want to be there anyways? Most likely all they do is praise Bush and his stupid ideas. This is the United States and we have freedom and that is why this kind of church can exist. Is it very KKKish? Absolutely.
Pendrilsaint From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 685 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1428 times:
Jesus christ, I live in the area guys and i know this church and have heard of this guy before. He is regarded as a NUT in the community, and please pay attention and notice that many people have protested the church and are leaving. I have many many family members in Waynesville and I know the community doesn't condone this sort of crap. If it wasn't such a shocking wrong thing to do, then it wouldn't have made the regional news.
What's worse Pendrilsaint is churches (among other organizations) that don't say this sort of thing explicitly but most definitely imply it, guilting people into a political ideology, and all the while you can't call them on it because they said nothing explicity.
By the way, this is why a certain state with the largest Bush-margin is the state with the largest Bush-margin.
Pendrilsaint From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 685 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1403 times:
There are indeed many churches that guilt their congregations, but I think you are less likely to find them in Western North Carolina, which actually had some very close counties with regards to presidential election results (my county was decided by less than 100 votes). I don't think it's fair to say outright that a majority of churches guilt their congregations like that, because honestly I don't think they do. It's a touchy subject in congregations and most don't want to hit on it (except those like Mr. Chandler and the good Mr. Burn-a-Cross Falwell = ) .
I don't quite catch your drift with the certain state comment...I just want to make sure everyone realizes it was most certainly not North Carolina with the largest margin...I believe it was Alabama with 63% 37% split.
SLC1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1396 times:
Quoting Pendrilsaint (Reply 11): I don't quite catch your drift with the certain state comment...I just want to make sure everyone realizes it was most certainly not North Carolina with the largest margin...I believe it was Alabama with 63% 37% split.
Utah 72-26 split, guess which church I'm referring to
SLC1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1392 times:
Quoting Pendrilsaint (Reply 11): I don't think it's fair to say outright that a majority of churches guilt their congregations like that, because honestly I don't think they do.
I'm far from saying a majority of churches do, btw, just that there are a healthy few that do, either directly, or indirectly, and that is dangerous.
Pendrilsaint From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 685 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1392 times:
Hahaha! I had no idea the margin was that was SLC1, that's hilarious actually, I would have guessed one of the deep Southern states. That church is known for never being crazy. ; )
NYCFlyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1381 posts, RR: 10 Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1369 times:
Quoting Pendrilsaint (Reply 8): Jesus christ, I live in the area guys and i know this church and have heard of this guy before. He is regarded as a NUT in the community, and please pay attention and notice that many people have protested the church and are leaving. I have many many family members in Waynesville and I know the community doesn't condone this sort of crap. If it wasn't such a shocking wrong thing to do, then it wouldn't have made the regional news.
Pendrilsaint, I appreciate you saying this. Good to know the guy is considered a loon by his own community. Because otherwise, I was about to say that this country has reached a new low.
Quoting Diamond (Reply 6): Quoting Adam (Reply 3):
I couldn't even imagine George Bush agreeing with this.
Publicly, he will make an obligatory statement regarding his anemic view of the separation of church and state.
Privately, I'll bet he considers this a victory and hopes for more of them to come.
Tbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7011 posts, RR: 28 Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1349 times:
If this guy is considered to be such a nut by his own community, why is he still a pastor at this church? If my rabbi made such comments, the congregation would be quick to make it known to the people responsible that we don't want this guy. Can the same be done with this pastor?
His comments are pretty disgusting. Its weirder that he considers it the word of God.
Mir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 19712 posts, RR: 56 Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1323 times:
The church should lose any government money that it gets. Plain and simple. And, the congregation should make it clear to the head of the church that stuff like that will not be tolerated, and that either he goes, or their money goes. That'll change things mighty quick. Money, not God, is the most powerful force in this world.
-Mir
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NWADC9 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4857 posts, RR: 10 Reply 19, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1304 times:
Quoting The Article: During last Sunday's sermon, he acknowledged that church members were upset because he named people, and he says he'll do it again because he has to according to the word of God.
Ok, Rev., where in the Bible does it say that? Who the heck do you think YOU are? Jesus?
Flying an aeroplane with only a single propeller to keep you in the air. Can you imagine that? -Capt. Picard
Delta767300ER From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2559 posts, RR: 14 Reply 20, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1287 times:
I do not agree with the Pastor at all. I am for seperation of Church and State. Sadly it doesent surprise me that it was a Baptist Church that engaged this. Churches are *supposed* to accept anyone regardless of their race/sex/sexuality/age/nationality/language/ ect.
Falcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 21, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1279 times:
Quoting Adam (Reply 3): I couldn't even imagine George Bush agreeing with this.
I could. After all, he's convinced God is on his side.
Quoting Pendrilsaint (Reply 8): If it wasn't such a shocking wrong thing to do, then it wouldn't have made the regional news.
I agree, but it also show the fanaticism of the right that SOME born-again's have for not just conservative values, but in holding up George W. Bush as almost a Christ-like figure.
Imagine the field day our departed young wacko Libturd would have had with this on here?
SLC1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 22, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1259 times:
Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 21):
I could. After all, he's convinced God is on his side.
"Uh, hey, George, it's God... Hey, listen, big favor: is there any way that you could, uh, from now on, sort of downplay our relationship a little more in your public addresses? I mean, to give you an example, like when you make comments like, 'God wanted me to be President,' you know, that would be an example of something to just kind of keep to yourself. Wait...Cheney's on the other line *click* Hello, Sir?" - American Dad
DL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11433 posts, RR: 81 Reply 23, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1239 times:
This being a free country I respect the right of the Pastor and his fellow leaders in his church politicizing the decision of whom they will allow in their services...
but I sure as Hell think they are wrong....
religion is about your feelings on God, and not your political preferences. Or anything else for that matter. If your church turns people away for thinking differently on politics or anything other than religious issues, then your church will stagnate.
If your church turns people away from the word of God and the teachings of the bible, for any reason, then they are disobeying a basic tenet of the bible......teaching and helping those who need it.
26 NWA742: While I agree that this guy has lost his nerve, I don't understand why people use "Jesusland" as an insult. Most Christians are very loving, nice, and
27 Aerorobnz: Maybe not, but... That's blessed are the Cheesemakers....haven't you seen 'The Life of Brian' - the holiest of all cinematic motion pictures?
28 Falcon84: When their "right" infringes on the free exercise of someone else's life outside the Church, I respect nothing about that. That's just fascism, my fr
29 NWA742: Hello Falcon, how have you been? It's nice to see you again. ---- I'm sure for the most part, when people use "Jesusland", they are referring to peop
30 Mir: I don't believe that he intends to force it on the public, but the problem is that he has a hard time checking his religion at the Oval Office door w
31 MD-90: If that church is a member of the Southern Baptist Convention, then that pastor will be facing discipline. He could not possibly be more wrong. The ch
32 Jetjack74: The guy is off his rocker. Religeous or political views should not be forced upon people. These views should be left to the power of persuasion, not f
33 Adam: I come from a very diverse and liberal city. The only other city I've lived in was just as liberal. I guess I've just never been around people or pla
34 Allstarflyer: I can't believe nobody's figured out this is where Liberalslayer (aka, Libturdslayer, aka . . . ) goes to church. No kidding. WTG pastor - turn off s
35 DL021: I see where you are coming from here, but two things here.... A. I think that you may be misinterpreting my use of the word respect. B. I think that
36 Falcon84: Exactly, Mir. Good case in point, NWA742 (and glad to see you again, it's been a while), was the Schiavo case. His intervention and that of Congressi
37 MD-90: Falcon84, you don't know what fascism is. It's not fascism if it doesn't involve a government. And all fascism is is State control of the economy. The
38 Aerorobnz: Fascism... care of wikipedia... * exalts nation and sometimes race above the individual * uses violence and modern techniques of propaganda and censor
39 Pilotsmoe: So true... the Jesus freaks and Bible huggers have control of this country. I don't like bush. I am all for smaller government and lower taxes, but a
40 Falcon84: I don't subscribe to that interpretation. The "Bible huggers" as you call them, (and, as someone who does believe in the Holy Scriptures, I take a bi
41 Superfly: This fool should be ran out of town and lose all government tax breaks that Churches enjoy.
42 JGPH1A: It's not meant to be taken literally - it refers to all manufacturers of dairy products. P.S. This pastor guy is a nutjob ! Do people actually go to
43 Logan22L: I just LOVE that line. I think I'll have wolf nipple chips for lunch. Logan
44 Seb146: Before I post my opinion on this, I have to say that I was raised a Christian and I do believe there are such things as heaven and hell. By definition
45 TedTAce: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7769149/ Political North Carolina pastor resigns Buh Buy!!, Don't let the door hit you on the a$$ on your way out, and MOS
46 Falcon84: Hallalujah! Common sense triumphs again over ignorance and intolerance. I found it interesting that, in that article, one of his supporters, when aske
47 DC10GUY: To a rightie Bush and Jesus are the same...
48 Falcon84: To SOME righties, way on the right, Dc10guy. You need to stop with that annoying, infantile and ingorant habit of thinking ALL righties are the same.
49 Homer71: Thank you, Falcon, I couldn't have said it better myself. BTW, good riddance to that pastor and, based on some of those quotes, some of his congregati
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