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What Do You All Think Of Trains?  
User currently offlineCOAMiG29 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 515 posts, RR: 2
Posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2530 times:

what do yall think of trains?


If Continental had a hub at DFW with nonstop flights I would always fly them, unfortunantely good things take time.
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User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 1, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2524 times:

A nice but expensive way to get into Manhattan.

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlineWhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2522 times:

an even more expensive way of getting from Heathrow almost into London

User currently offlineSeptember11 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3623 posts, RR: 21
Reply 3, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2520 times:

Train? OK

Given this situation: I am in Los Angeles and I have to go to Las Vegas. I only have 2 choices:

1st choice: Take the train
2nd choice: Fly on AA from LAX to ORD, then ORD to LAS...

I'll pick 2nd choice!!!!



Airliners.net of the Future
User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 4, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2513 times:

Quoting September11 (Reply 3):
Train? OK

Given this situation: I am in Los Angeles and I have to go to Las Vegas. I only have 2 choices:

1st choice: Take the train
2nd choice: Fly on AA from LAX to ORD, then ORD to LAS...

I'll pick 2nd choice!!!!

The drive isn't that long...

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlineLeskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 70
Reply 5, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2500 times:

There are few, if any, trips within Germany where I'd prefer the plane over the train - the plane has little to no advantage in travel time, the train is cheaper and, above all, much more comfortable.

The situation is different, though, as soon as the destination is outside the borders of Germany, which is where I'd rather fly than take the train.

Regards,
Frank



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User currently offlineBCNGRO From Andorra, joined Oct 2004, 584 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2498 times:

Trains suck.  yuck 

I take the train to the university everyday. I have traveled nearly 20,000km by train in the last two years. That is so boring...

BCNGRO



At the bus station, buses stop. At the train station, trains stop. At my desk, I have a work station.
User currently offlineGreyhound From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1026 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2496 times:

The train is a nice way to go... if you've got the time and money. Amtrak- San Diego to Seattle cost as much as the plane and took as long as the bus for me. But it was a beautiful trip, to say the least. The Pacific Surfliner to LA took us right along the coast, and the Coast Starlight from Sacramento to Seattle. It was nice in some places; the only thing there was the train, the track and that was it.


29th, Let's Go!
User currently offlineMexicana757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3042 posts, RR: 28
Reply 8, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2486 times:

Trains are ok for long journeys, but when you have to take them everyday to work you get sick of them and trip seems to take longer more time you spend taking it.

I had a good experience in Spain with trains from Valencia to Barcelona. I recommend business class on RENFE.


User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2479 times:

Quoting September11 (Reply 3):
Given this situation: I am in Los Angeles and I have to go to Las Vegas. I only have 2 choices:

1st choice: Take the train
2nd choice: Fly on AA from LAX to ORD, then ORD to LAS...

Amtrak serves Vegas by way of bus from SoCal. No Amtrak trains come to sin city anymore. I frequently see motor coaches that say ‘Amtrak California.’ Keep in mind there is copious air service SoCal to McCarran.

I have an Amtrak trip scheduled next week MSY-HOU. I have never taken a ‘cross-country’ train in the States.

The ticket was only $41.00 and the journey takes 9 hours. Luckily, I have time to spare right now. I am looking forward to the experience and scenic views. Albeit, I’m expecting swamps and rivers in Louisiana and chemical plants nestled among piney woods in East Texas.

Amtrak called me this weekend regarding mailing a paper ticket. (as opposed to picking it up at a ‘will call’ window). I guess they have yet to enter the age of electronic tickets.


User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 10, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2474 times:

Quoting FlyingTexan (Reply 9):
Amtrak called me this weekend regarding mailing a paper ticket. (as opposed to picking it up at a ‘will call’ window). I guess they have yet to enter the age of electronic tickets.

I have used electronic tickets many times on Amtrak. I select my ticket online, print out the ticket, and then pick up my "real" ticket at the station when I get there.

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlineCOAMiG29 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 515 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2453 times:

sorry about wasting the time here, my friend at school bet me $5.00 that i wouldent say somthing about trains on airliners.net and now thanks to all of you here in the non av forum im $5.00 richer thanks for playing along and sry for using ur time

--COAMiG29--



If Continental had a hub at DFW with nonstop flights I would always fly them, unfortunantely good things take time.
User currently offlineSeptember11 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3623 posts, RR: 21
Reply 12, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2445 times:

Quoting COAMiG29 (Reply 11):
thanks to all of you here in the non av forum im $5.00 richer thanks for playing along

no problem ... I had good time, lol. Can I borrow $1.00 from you?



Airliners.net of the Future
User currently offlineBMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 58
Reply 13, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2433 times:

Quoting COAMiG29 (Thread starter):
what do yall think of trains?

I work on them. Good job (when things run well) and good money too.

I Won't stay here forever tho......


Lee



Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own
User currently offline57AZ From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2550 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2419 times:

I worked on vintage trains for a decade. Quite an experiance and one that I would not trade for anything. Aside from ships, they are the most economical and efficient shipping method for large bulk goods. Not so great for intercity travel in North America due to the poor network outside of the West Coast and the Northeast Corridore. Aside from the technology, the passenger train has remained essentially unchanged for the past century. The only thing that Amtrak has changed recently (due to 9/11) was the elimination of onboard ticket sales (bane to the passenger train conductors). As one myself (not with Amtrak though) I never really liked cash fares-take too much time to deal with when you've got other things to do. Good jobs but the hours can be hell during the freight rushes.


"When a man runs on railroads over half of his lifetime he is fit for nothing else-and at times he don't know that."
User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2418 times:

Trains can be very convenient for point to point journeys. The highspeed train network in Europe is growing, and becoming easier and cheaper to use (still not THAT cheap though). In NCE we will have to wait till 2010-15 to get a TGV link direct to Paris though.

User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26493 posts, RR: 75
Reply 16, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2411 times:

Quoting WhiteHatter (Reply 2):
an even more expensive way of getting from Heathrow almost into London



Quoting September11 (Reply 3):
Given this situation: I am in Los Angeles and I have to go to Las Vegas. I only have 2 choices:

1st choice: Take the train

No trains to Vegas. That may be changing soon as Amtrak California (the joint venture between a state that gives a damn about transport infrastructure and a company that does its best to provide that with a crap deal with train companies and constant b!tching by the polution lovers in the GOP.)

Quoting Greyhound (Reply 7):
if you've got the time and money.

Trains are not as fast as airplanes for sure but they are fast becoming as cheap as driving, especially in California.

Quoting FlyingTexan (Reply 9):
I have an Amtrak trip scheduled next week MSY-HOU.

Hate to be technical, but that is NOL-HOU in Amtrak speak

Quoting COAMiG29 (Reply 11):
sorry about wasting the time here, my friend at school bet me $5.00 that i wouldent say somthing about trains on airliners.net and now thanks to all of you here in the non av forum im $5.00 richer thanks for playing along and sry for using ur time

Many of us here love trains as much as airplanes.

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 15):
In NCE we will have to wait till 2010-15 to get a TGV link direct to Paris though.

Hey, 700 km in under 6 hours is not bad as it is right now.



Mangeons les French fries, mais surtout pratiquons avec fierte le French kiss
User currently offlineFLYtoEGCC From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 947 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2411 times:

Quoting COAMiG29 (Thread starter):
what do yall think of trains?

Well, here in the UK, since privitisation all the franchises on the network were awarded to private Train Operating Companies (TOCs) so what people think of trains in general depends on the length of the route and type of train used.

For the main trunk routes in the UK - West Coast Mainline (London Euston - Birmingham/Manchester/Glasgow), East Coast Mainline (London Kings Cross - Leeds/Newcastle/Edinburgh) and the Great Western (London Paddington - Bristol/South West), the trains used on these routes are either new or recently refurbished, are fast and very comfortable to travel in. Punctuality is steadily improving, no matter what people say, and service frequency has increased dramatically over the last decade. The general impression is that people are very satisfied. GNER, who operate the East Coast franchise, have even been operating spare Eurostar trains on some services.

Local and commuter services are a different story - years of under-investment means that only now are new trains starting to replace the 1950s/1960s stock still in use on some lines (such as commuter routes into London), and even the more recent 1980s DMUs in use on local services in other areas are usually dirty, smelly and noisy.

The biggest uproar in recent years has been about the new trains brought into service on the Virgin Cross Country franchise, which operates long distance services right across the UK. They tried to replace old, longer trains with new, shorter ones and tried to double service frequency. Unfortunately, the new trains (despite some niggles) were quite attractive to commuters and caused a 90%+ rise in passenger numbers, meaning some trains get dangerously overcrowded (I've been on them at such times, it's not nice.)

Remember that with the UK being a lot smaller than the US, there are far fewer domestic air routes here than over there, and (apart from a few of the LCCs) fares for air services tend to be a lot higher, meaning the train is usually the more viable option - far more people travel by train than fly domestically. As I said, though, what people think of them depends entirely on the route and company travelled on. Some are good, some are bad and some are downright horrible.



Come fly with me, let's fly, let's fly away...
User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26493 posts, RR: 75
Reply 18, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2404 times:

Quoting FLYtoEGCC (Reply 17):
no matter what people say

Tell me about it. In the time I lived in the UK (and since), all I heard Britons do is slag off the transport system, particularly around The Capital. The thing that they don't understand is that London would GRIND TO A HALT without that system they constantly like to complain about. I think the main problem is that LT does too much in the way of reporting any minor problem. One train sits at Waterloo for 1 minute too long and they announce delays on the Northern Line for the next 5 hours, when in reality a train is coming within the next 1-3 minutes. 1-3 MINUTES!! And people complain?

Now that I have ranted, I do have to say that some train companies have a problem with getting trains in on time on certain routes. South West Trains in particular seems to have a problem on the Hounslow Loop/Windsor/Staines services. I lived on Queenstown Road in Battersea, a 3-5 minute walk from Queenstown Road station and that line constantly had delays. South Central/Southern did a much better job with the lines through Battersea Park into Victoria, in addition to providing a much more frequent service, even though the Waterloo lines were always much more crowded. It is a matter of consistancy and the train companies don't provide it. Honestly, all the PPP does is subsidize the profits of train company owners (normally bus companies that got train contracts) at the cost of the British tax payer. What they should do is renationalize the industry, which will eliminate that profit padding needed for the train companies and invest in faster, less invasive improvements to the network.



Mangeons les French fries, mais surtout pratiquons avec fierte le French kiss
User currently offlineFLYtoEGCC From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 947 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2401 times:

Something I forgot to mention - the reason for a lot of problems over here, as many rail enthusiast websites will testify, has been the way the Government's Strategic Rail Authority has handled the network. Unfortunately, its management appeared to consist of a bunch of people who didn't really have a clue about how to run a railway, and almost everything they touched turned to a farce. As a prime example, when Virgin discovered how badly overcrowded their new Voyagers were becoming, they wanted to upgrade all their 4-coach Class 220s to 5 coaches, matching the 221s. They were prepared to put up the necessary finance to do so, but they weren't allowed to do it - simply because the SRA said so. Fortunately, the SRA is now being disbanded and Network Rail is taking over the running of the whole network rather than just the track and infrastructure (although the private TOCs will remain.) Improvements are noticeable already.


Come fly with me, let's fly, let's fly away...
User currently offlineWillo From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 1352 posts, RR: 12
Reply 20, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2401 times:

I love train travel. I didn't even mind commuting up to London every day. I'm not so keen on some of the new trains in the UK where seats and windows don't line up.

Turn up and travel tickets are far too expensive in the UK - they will never get people out of cars with the prices as they are - however, if you can book far enough ahead there are some good deals (bit like the airlines).

In my view the best train travel to be had anywhere is in India. It is cheap, reasonably punctual (considering the distance involved) and great way of seeing and being part of that great country.


User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 21, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2397 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 18):
South West Trains in particular seems to have a problem on the Hounslow Loop/Windsor/Staines services.

As somebody who lives on that line, I can agree with that point.

When I lived in Europe I loved travelling around by train.

In the UK, unless its into central London I'll normally drive these days, as its quicker and cheaper for me most of the time.



Just when I thought I could see light at the end of the tunnel, it was some B*****d with a torch bringing me more work
User currently offlineThom@s From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 11953 posts, RR: 46
Reply 22, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2383 times:

They are ok provided I have music and something to read. Helps if the chairs are comfy.

Thom@s



"If guns don't kill people, people kill people - does that mean toasters don't toast toast, toast toast toast?"
User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 23, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2380 times:

Mumbai city depends on the train a lot.
regds
MEL



Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlineGreyhound From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1026 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2351 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 16):
Trains are not as fast as airplanes for sure but they are fast becoming as cheap as driving, especially in California.

Considering the traffic problems I've seen in Southern California, I would definetly consider being a frequent train rider. I think you're right, it is becoming as cheap as driving. Or maybe it's that driving is just getting too expensive.



29th, Let's Go!
25 Post contains images FlyingTexan : You know that entered my mind when I typed it. But I just went ahead and put MSY because most – especially in aviation circles identify that as the
26 Post contains links and images PMN : I like trains as long as they look like this: Paul
27 KFLLCFII : They're a bunch of shiny metal boxes with wheels that roll on tracks and goes "choo-choo", but that's not important right now...
28 Aloges : I like them a lot, especially since most I ride on are either modern or very classic. I take the tram to Uni every day, and I often catch a train from
29 Post contains images Biggles : Thomas the Tank Engine is my favorite..
30 KaiGywer : Having ridden lots of trains in Norway, I didn't like it, because it was just a way of transportation. However, I was surfing Amtrak's website today,
31 Post contains images TedTAce : Amtrak Trains are a lot more conducive to getting it on while traversing from point A to point B. Plus you can get a little exhibishonistic The cars o
32 Post contains images N1120A : Oh damn you and Amtrak LOL Actually, Metrolink and Amtrak California ridership is skyrocketing to the point that the SCRA and Amtrak cannot keep up.
33 Clrd2go : I love trains..I've taken Amtrak boston to houston (via Chicago) and back a couple times..then Boston-Oakland (via Chicago) 4 times. Love it..would lo
34 TUNisia : I love riding the MTA (Metro North - New Haven Line), but it gets pricey.
35 Aerorobnz : Yep, I love travelling by Thalys/ICE/TGV/Eurostar they are so smooth, and stressfree. I also like just plain slow rail too. Overnight trains are a lo
36 Post contains images Skidmarks : Our trains are over 100 years old. The steam trains run between Port Erin and Douglas and the electric trains run from Douglas to Ramsey with a side l
37 Post contains images JGPH1A : Do you still have your commemorative mug from the maiden voyage ? I hear they're worth quite a bit now.
38 Post contains images Gkirk : Indeed, both you and JGPH1A are older than the first trains/cars/aeroplanes
39 OYRJA : I love going by train when I travel inside Denmark. It's really nice to see the beautiful nature that you usually don't see from the air. And it's a l
40 Post contains images Skidmarks : Is there no escape from sarcasm and derision on A.net? If wit was s*** you would be constipated!!! Harumph Andy
41 Post contains images Gkirk : Skiddy, we could always take the piss out of you on Pprune
42 Post contains images Skidmarks : I take it this is another slack day for you young kirk? Shouldn't you be helping mummy tidy the house, do the ironing or washing or something? Have a
43 Post contains images JGPH1A : In your case, sadly, no. It is the duty, nay - the pleasure, of all of us young and beautiful and thin and gorgeous people to mock mercilessly the ol
44 Post contains images Cornish : And Gkirk's duty too
45 Post contains images JGPH1A : In his case, it's more of a compulsive disorder brought on by chemical dependence
46 Post contains images Skidmarks : So, where are all these young, thin, beautiful people then? Sure as hell don't inhabit A.net. And no-one living in France can be classed as beautiful
47 Post contains links and images Andz : Trains in this country: old, delapidated and generally not the way to travel ( unless you are mega rich and ride the Blue Train or mega poor and have
48 Post contains links and images VS74741R : Now this is a train!!!!! You can't beat The Flying Scotsman
49 Sacflyer : They have the power of a locomotive and they corner like they are on rails!
50 DesertJets : After putting nearly 1500 miles on my car this past weekend, I would have loved to have a train for my most recent road trip. While driving might be e
51 British767 : Gets me from A to C via. B. The trains here, not too much to complain about apart from the grafiti and delays. Germany sets a fantastic example when i
52 OO-VEG : Trains are cool, it's pretty fast, gets you in the citycentre, no parking problems, and need to pay attention to the road. Such a pitty I cannot commu
53 Post contains links and images TFSPhoto : Howdy, I'm a train driver for a living... I work for a company called EWS (English, Welsh & Scottish Railway.. http://www.ews-railway.co.uk) I dont us
54 FLYtoEGCC : Do you operate just 66s? Or do you also work 60s, 67s, 47s, etc? Which do you prefer? And, if you don't mind me asking, how did you go about becoming
55 Post contains images Planesarecool : TFSPhoto, do you ever drive those freight trains down to Maritime or Eastleigh? Or even Three Bridges or Purley? I know Freightliner have a terminal d
56 Post contains links and images NKP S2 : I chase and ride excursion steam as often as I can, as it's getting tougher and tougher to see anymore. I like larger, modern steam, such as this Milw
57 Post contains images Texan : Glad to hear you won your $5 I ride the train downtown pretty much whenever I need to go downtown. Quick, cheap, clean, and on time. I've been hoping
58 FlyingTexan : True, my fellow Texan. When I was booking my upcoming Amtrak trip New Orleans to Houston, I got an itinerary involving Washington and Chicago. Albeit
59 NumberTwelve : Andz, totally right! Unfortunately people in Germany are whining a lot and get all that press propaganda against German Railways. They should compare
60 OO-VEG : Indeed, I had a journey from Preston to Manchester and when we arrived in Manchester the crew apologised for the fact we were 19 minutes early. And w
61 Post contains images RedDragon : They apologised for being early? Blimey. I can't really comment as I always shunned trains for travelling between home and university (~170 miles) in
62 WhiteHatter : I've been on trains where that happened as well. British trains have timetables with 'recovery time' built in due to the penalty system which was int
63 Trident3 : I noticed that the other night when I had to get the train back from Southampton Airport to Reading. There have been complaints about the toilets on
64 Post contains images RedDragon : In fact, I didn't - I was talking bollocks. It was a Voyager, and it didn't smell at all as far as I can recall
65 FLYtoEGCC : People talk about that but I've never noticed it. I suppose it depends on where you sit, and I've just been lucky so far! Anyway, I'd rather squeeze
66 JGPH1A : ...despite the frozen points at D, a bus replacement service between E and F, a delay at G caused by "the wrong kind of privatisation on the line", t
67 Eurohub : A free upgrade on GNER - I think, TFSPhoto, you have experienced the exception rather than the rule. Back in my last job, where I qualified for Priv
68 Post contains links and images TFSPhoto : I did all my practical training on the 60's (60038) and they did the conversion course over to the 66's.. im soley 66's now. I got out the wrong side
69 Post contains images FLYtoEGCC : Make sure you wave when you pass through Chesterfield then... if I'm there waiting for my train back to Leamington, I'll wave back! Many thanks for t
70 Post contains images British767 : Ahh it's comments like that, that always make me laugh (quite literally) !!!
71 Leviticus : For me trains are definately my second choice of transportation after aeroplanes, just love them ! Even though I do not enjoy stupid commuter trains
72 ANITIX87 : I definitely have to say European train lines, especially in the Northwestern part of the continent, are the best. I've spent SO much time on the Swis
73 Post contains links AirIndia : Try the Mumbai (Bombay) suburban network sometime. Its a nightmare... The Mumbai Suburban Railway system, part of the public transport in Mumbai, carr
74 Post contains images JGPH1A : That's 6.1 million per train !
75 Post contains images RedDragon : Lol!
76 TGV : In fact Paris-Nice is 975 km (of which 225 from Marseilles to Nice). With a TGV scheduled in 5 hours 42 this gives an average speed of 171 km/h. Not
77 Post contains links and images FlyingTexan : A few photos from my recent ride on Amtrak’s Sunset Limited New Orleans to Houston… Amtrak station in small Schriever, Louisiana Crossing a draw b
78 Saxman66 : Best way to travel. Just wish the US government knew how they worked better. They seem to like to screw Amtrak, and then expect them to perform at top
79 Post contains links and images SLC1 : This kind I like...it got me around for most of high school until me and my friends reached driving age... I like this kind too... This one, I didn't,
80 N1120A : That is the right of way length. I was using the straightline distance That picture is insane You mean the "Pigs" (take a look at the front of the tr
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