Dtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1288 times:
I know it's a christian school, but pahleez! She got married!
Some of these people need to start thinking....and not just being idiots!
School punishes teacher for getting pregnant before married
Wednesday, May 11, 2005
ASSOCIATED PRESS
BERRIEN SPRINGS -- A kindergarten teacher at private Christian elementary school has been placed on paid administrative leave until her contract expires because she became pregnant before she got married.
Christine John, a first-year teacher at the Village Seventh-day Adventist Elementary School in Berrien Springs, said she was asked at a meeting with school officials last week why she was four months along in her pregnancy when she had been married just two months before.
John, 24, said school officials told her that premarital sex is an act strictly forbidden by the school system and the Seventh-day Adventist religion. In the end, she was told her services were no longer necessary.
Now she's considering legal action.
"I was very surprised. Shocked," John told the South Bend (Ind.) Tribune for a Wednesday story. "I had no clue what the meeting was about."
School officials said John was placed on administrative leave until her contract expires.
Michael Nickless, communication director for the Michigan Conference of Seventh-day Adventists, said that under the school's policies, unmarried teachers who get pregnant can be fired immediately.
"In our school system, our teachers are expected to be a positive spiritual example for our congregations and youth," Nickless said in a prepared statement. "When she (John) chose behavior contrary to those values, she was placed on administrative leave.
"Even though policy allows for immediate dismissal, out of compassion, her present contract continues to be honored and she will receive full pay and benefits until the contract expires."
Greyhound From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1026 posts, RR: 2 Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1281 times:
Quoting Dtwclipper (Thread starter): John, 24, said school officials told her that premarital sex is an act strictly forbidden by the school system and the Seventh-day Adventist religion. In the end, she was told her services were no longer necessary.
Quoting Dtwclipper (Thread starter): "In our school system, our teachers are expected to be a positive spiritual example for our congregations and youth,"
Apparently judging others harshly is not forbidden by the school and is expected of the teachers.
As for those school officials, we just don't HEAR of what 'forbidden' acts they have done.
Airlinelover From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 5580 posts, RR: 26 Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1263 times:
Isn't this against some discrimination law? It doesn't matter if it's a private or public school, christian or not. They have no right to do this. I hope she sues and wins.
Chris
Lets do some sexy math. We add you, subtract your clothes, divide your legs and multiply
ACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7598 posts, RR: 40 Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1257 times:
Getting fired from the school will probably be the best thing that could happend to her.
I went to a Christian school myself for a couple of years, it really messed me up. We weren't allowed to post any pictures in our lockers unless they had a bible verse quoted. So I had to find some bible verses for all my pics of A320's and B767's...
Garnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5251 posts, RR: 55 Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1253 times:
She had sex before she was married?!? THE HARLOT SHOULD BE STONED!
Signed,
Lib___slayer
South Carolina - too small to be its own country, too big to be a mental asylum.
Learpilot From United States of America, joined May 2001, 814 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1226 times:
Absolutely nothing. .
Heed our warnings or your future will be underpant free!
LTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 12365 posts, RR: 12 Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1221 times:
What would have happened to her if she had an abortion and the administartion found out? Stone her to death?
Look, she signed a contract with a private, religious school that made it clear that she had to follow the teachings of the church, so I doubt she has much of a legal recourse. Still though, it does seem counterdictory to be so 'Un-Christian" as to dismiss her.
Greyhound From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1026 posts, RR: 2 Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1221 times:
Quoting Garnetpalmetto (Reply 4): She had sex before she was married?!? THE HARLOT SHOULD BE STONED!
Signed,
Lib___slayer
Speaking of Jerry Falwell Jr., where is that turd? Has a.net flushed him yet?
I'm not well read on the legalities of her situation, or the school's finances, but couldn't that school be in some $hit if it recieves federal funds, and yet still discriminates?
Mir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 19813 posts, RR: 56 Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days ago) and read 1190 times:
Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 3): So I had to find some bible verses for all my pics of A320's and B767's...
"And God did then appear to Noel Forgeard in a vison and did say: 'Noel, thou shalt build a new aircraft, one that is flown entirely by computer, for it shall save on weight and be more reliable, plus it won't be as subject to human error. This thou shalt do, Noel, and thou shalt call it the A320, and it shall become the standard by which all other short-to-medium range airliners are measured, and all shall bow to it and rejoice.' And Noel did respond to the Lord, saying 'But if the computers are to be built by man, does that not keep the same possibility of error?' And the Lord did pause for a moment, and then did say 'Ok, smartass, just for that I shall cause people to think that thy company recieves unfair subsidies, and thou shalt never heard the end of the whining.' And Noel did take back what he said, but the Lord's word is law, and he refused to change his mind. And thus the A vs B thread was born."
-Airliners 3:141-147
-Mir
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Garnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5251 posts, RR: 55 Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days ago) and read 1182 times:
Quoting Mir (Reply 10): "And God did then appear to Noel Forgeard in a vison and did say: 'Noel, thou shalt build a new aircraft, one that is flown entirely by computer, for it shall save on weight and be more reliable, plus it won't be as subject to human error. This thou shalt do, Noel, and thou shalt call it the A320, and it shall become the standard by which all other short-to-medium range airliners are measured, and all shall bow to it and rejoice.' And Noel did respond to the Lord, saying 'But if the computers are to be built by man, does that not keep the same possibility of error?' And the Lord did pause for a moment, and then did say 'Ok, smartass, just for that I shall cause people to think that thy company recieves unfair subsidies, and thou shalt never heard the end of the whining.' And Noel did take back what he said, but the Lord's word is law, and he refused to change his mind. And thus the A vs B thread was born."
-Airliners 3:141-147
ROFLMAO!!! Good job, Mir.
South Carolina - too small to be its own country, too big to be a mental asylum.
NWADC9 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4862 posts, RR: 10 Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days ago) and read 1181 times:
That is outragous.
Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 3): So I had to find some bible verses for all my pics of A320's and B767's...
"...Then God said, "Let there be a metal tube that can carry people from point A to point B faster than Adam carrying Eve around." And the airplane was born. God added hot f/a's and yakking captains, and saw that it was good."
-Airliners 3:3-5
Flying an aeroplane with only a single propeller to keep you in the air. Can you imagine that? -Capt. Picard
Logan22L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days ago) and read 1158 times:
Back on topic (although I enjoyed the airliner scripture), did this woman sign a contract? Was there a morals clause that outlined unacceptable actions? While I'm not a supporter of religious nutcases, remember, she wanted to be one of them.
Sacflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 371 posts, RR: 3 Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days ago) and read 1131 times:
Quoting Logan22L (Reply 15): Back on topic (although I enjoyed the airliner scripture), did this woman sign a contract? Was there a morals clause that outlined unacceptable actions? While I'm not a supporter of religious nutcases, remember, she wanted to be one of them.
Exactly, at least there is no double standard here for teachers and students. The school would immediately throw a pregnant teen out of school because it is not in line with the values of the school which is why parents send their children there.
Now if they can just allow people who don't attend that school to live THEIR lives as they choose.
I'm just happy that RR ratings can't be in negative numbers!
Mirrodie From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 7422 posts, RR: 65 Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1115 times:
sheesh,
you'd think she had sex and had a baby with one of her students, like one teacher in the news did.
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MD, I think your missing something here... There are media reports of K age students messing around.. granted it's with eachother and not teachers.. but if I knew my son was banging his Art teacher, I'd be proud!!
Mirrodie From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 7422 posts, RR: 65 Reply 20, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1101 times:
you'd think she had sex and had a babyWITH one of her students, like one teacher in the news did.
dont you remember that old story, the gal who had sex with a student and had his baby? might even had been a teacher in NY, I dont remember.
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TedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 22, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1099 times:
Quoting Mirrodie (Reply 20): dont you remember that old story, the gal who had sex with a student and had his baby? might even had been a teacher in NY, I dont remember.
It was Oregon.. Mary Kay LeTourneau , and she had two of his children, but he was aged 13 when it first started. They are about to, or just got married for real after she got out of prison.
USAir_757 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 994 posts, RR: 9 Reply 23, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1098 times:
Quoting Mir (Reply 10): "And God did then appear to Noel Forgeard in a vison and did say: 'Noel, thou shalt build a new aircraft, one that is flown entirely by computer, for it shall save on weight and be more reliable, plus it won't be as subject to human error. This thou shalt do, Noel, and thou shalt call it the A320, and it shall become the standard by which all other short-to-medium range airliners are measured, and all shall bow to it and rejoice.' And Noel did respond to the Lord, saying 'But if the computers are to be built by man, does that not keep the same possibility of error?' And the Lord did pause for a moment, and then did say 'Ok, smartass, just for that I shall cause people to think that thy company recieves unfair subsidies, and thou shalt never heard the end of the whining.' And Noel did take back what he said, but the Lord's word is law, and he refused to change his mind. And thus the A vs B thread was born."
-Airliners 3:141-147 mischievous
-Mir
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Unmlobo From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 196 posts, RR: 1 Reply 24, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1087 times:
Sorry TedTAce it was Washington. I know because I went to high school in Washington and they had a test question on the standarized tests that all 10th graders had to take, the answer ended up being Mary, Kay, Le, Tour, Neau; spelling out Mary Kay LeTourneau. They had to end up throwing the question out of the test because of it. Some one managed to slip it and thought it was funny. In fact I thought it was pretty funny too!
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25 Redngold: There are two issues here: 1. It is a private parochial school. The same standards do not apply to "equal employment opportunity" at these schools as
26 FlyingTexan: So it the employers’ business who and what and when you sleep with them? BTW – Mir, that was classic!
27 ScarletHarlot: Hey! No stoning of Harlots! Mir, that was hilarious. Thanks!
28 Allstarflyer: So she made a mistake. She got knocked up before she was married, which is against the teachings of her faith. Looks like she followed through on her
29 JGPH1A: Book of Airliners, II, v2-4 2. And yeah, The Lord in his mercy did go into the land of the Boeingites, unto the City of E'ver'ett, and did appear unt
30 TedTAce: I sit corrected.... Yeah, back in the day I would have liked to have slipped it into her Sounds like witchcraft to me!! I love how apologetic your po
31 Dtwclipper: So, she's a little pregars. Did her students know? Most likely not. And by the time she had her baby, her class wouldn't really remember the dates etc
32 Toulouse: That's very true. I really hope she does. I remember hearing a similar story a while back in Ireland. (Can't remember how it ended... so I won't cont
33 Redngold: TedTAce - While I am more on the side of forgiving people, and would probably forgive this woman after counseling her, I am not apologetic for other C
34 Dtwclipper: I was trying, but I guess it didn't work!
35 Toulouse: Don't you worry Dtwclipper! I thought you were but just wanted to check. Myfault, I had to get up at 4am this morning, so I'm not really with it toda
36 SATX: No. Under George W. Bush, public funding of private religious schools has skyrocketed. However, they are still free to discriminate on the basis of r
37 Allstarflyer: In saying that, I hope she doesn't get a settlement. Whether or not you think the rules are ridiculous, she still signed a contract. I would expect s
38 TedTAce: That probably didn't cover 'premarital sex' explictly.
39 PacificWestern: Hey, if it turns out that the baby is born in a manger and is visited by three wise men, I am sure the school would be very anxious to welcome her bac
40 Redngold: TedTAce - Although in practice premarital sex may be "ok," according to the Bible and generally most moral clauses, it would not be. I do understand y
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