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Loophole May Allow US Crime Spree?  
User currently offlineKieron747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 862 times:

This is an interesting article.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4529829.stm

Could anyone get away with it, or is it like the myth about being able to kill a Welshman in Chester on a certain day of the year using a bow and arrow?.. Or something like that.

Kieron747

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User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 853 times:

Trust me, commit a state level crime,and they will find a jury..

User currently offlineSacflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 371 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 848 times:

If they can't find a fair and impartial jury, then they simply have a change of venue. This is not groundbreaking law.


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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29799 posts, RR: 58
Reply 3, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 820 times:

A non-issue, I am sure there have been crimes in that part of the world that has gone to a jury.


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User currently offlineNighthawk From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2001, 5150 posts, RR: 33
Reply 4, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 802 times:

dont forget we are talking about the USA here.......the country that likes to lock people up without trial!!!


That'll teach you
User currently offlinePope From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 795 times:

Quoting Nighthawk (Reply 4):
dont forget we are talking about the USA here.......the country that likes to lock people up without trial!!!

As opposed to Russia which is internationally known as a bastion of freedom, liberty and due process!


User currently offlineGreyhound From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1026 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 792 times:

Quoting Pope (Reply 5):
As opposed to Russia which is internationally known as a bastion of freedom, liberty and due process!

 knockout  Good point



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User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 18
Reply 7, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 742 times:

Quoting Pope (Reply 5):

As opposed to Russia which is internationally known as a bastion of freedom, liberty and due process!

Not to mention north Korea where family members are guilty for "crimes" other family members commit just because they're family.
For example: if your grandson is found making a statement that he doesn't like Kim il Sung you are arrested as well for high treason and sent to a "reeducation" camp for the rest of your life.



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User currently offlineFlybyguy From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1801 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 718 times:

That's pretty funny. But I'm sure they'll use some sort of legal maneuver to mitigate the effects of that loophole. Like if you cross state borders after committing the crime then doesn't the FBI get involved? If so then it becomes a Federal crime and in Federal court I doubt that state level loophole exists.


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User currently offline57AZ From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2550 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (9 years 4 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 679 times:

Quoting Flybyguy (Reply 8):
Like if you cross state borders after committing the crime then doesn't the FBI get involved? If so then it becomes a Federal crime and in Federal court I doubt that state level loophole exists.

Not exactly. The FBI may become involed for the purpose of locating the fugitive but they are not guilty of a federal crime unless they violate a specific provision of the United States Code either in the commission of the original offense or a subsequent offense. The FBI generally only gets involved at the request of the states involved if no violation of a federal law is involved. Usually, apprehension is achieved through cooperation of state law enforcement agencies or traffic stops that turn up warrants through NCIC (National Crime Information Center).

Just becase someone is held on a detainer (request for detention) from another state does not always mean that they will be extradited and prosecuted. First the states involved have to have a treaty with each other. Secondly, some states will not extradite for certain low level offenses where they feel it would not be worth their while to expend legal resources to litigate the extradition and actually send someone to pick up the prisoner. Here in AZ, a lot of prisoners that we have on detainer for offenses committed in other states are released because the demanding state will not extradite.



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