Yanksn4 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1392 posts, RR: 13 Posted (8 years 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 922 times:
Does anyone know what the amount is estimated to be of how many Iraqis that Saddam Hussein killed while he was the leader of the country? Also, how many were killed in the chemical weapons he dropped on the Kurds and Shi'ites? Please provide a link if you can.
DfwRevolution From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 851 times:
Quoting EMBQA (Reply 6): Help me out here.... 'several' million is greater then one million, but also unknown....so would it not be 'more then' one million...??
Estimates are one thing, but NoUFO is correct: the exact number is secondary. So many of Husien's victims were in mass graves or whose remains were completly destroyed the exact number is both secondary and probably impossible to ascertain.
Since the U.S.-led invasion in 2003, 300,000 bodies have been found in Iraq. Factor in the atrocities of the Iran-Iraq war, the atrocities of the Kuwait invasion, the supression of the Kurd and Shitie uprising in 1991, and constant terror killings... it's easy to image total victims surpassing 1,000,000.
I assume NoUFO meant 1-1.5 million as opposed to say, 3-5 million. Horrible and tragic nonetheless, especially considering the western world largerly fanned the fire or sat on their hands until recently.
Oh bullshit on your semantics. What possible purpose you intended that reply to have, it only cheapens the deaths of thousands if not millions. There is zero place for that kind of garbage....
He was "just" the one who appointed the deaths of millions? That in every single solitary manner is tantamount to taking a pistol and shooting them in the face himself. How can you possibly try to make a distinction otherwise?
NoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7798 posts, RR: 13 Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 828 times:
Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 7):
Estimates are one thing, but NoUFO is correct: the exact number is secondary. So many of Husien's victims were in mass graves or whose remains were completly destroyed the exact number is both secondary and probably impossible to ascertain. (snip)
I assume NoUFO meant 1-1.5 million as opposed to say, 3-5 million. Horrible and tragic nonetheless, especially considering the western world largerly fanned the fire or sat on their hands until recently.
ANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 823 times:
Quoting Airlinerfreak (Reply 8): He killed not one single person. Saddam killed not one soul, he was just the one who appointed the death of about 1,000,000 killings.
Here's my infamous bullshit flag again. . .
The referenced post, is in fact, so bogus, it deserves 2!
First, I'd make the bet he has killed - personally - plenty.
Second, it matters not that he personally didn't "pull the trigger" when the Kurds were gassed, or the prisoners were tortured, or the mass graves were filled. You can't vindicate the SOB with your cheap shots.
CORULEZ05 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 820 times:
Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 12): Here's my infamous bullshit flag again. . .
cute, very very cute....how old are you again???
Quoting Airlinerfreak (Reply 8): He killed not one single person. Saddam killed not one soul, he was just the one who appointed the death of about 1,000,000 killings.
I agree. He himself has not killed anyone. Same thing goes for Bush. He is responsible for the deaths of all the soldiers in Iraq...same situation..they don't ACTUALLY do it but they order it.
ANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 813 times:
Quoting CORULEZ05 (Reply 13): cute, very very cute....how old are you again???
46, next question?
Quoting CORULEZ05 (Reply 13): I agree. He himself has not killed anyone.
Once again
Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 12): First, I'd make the bet he has killed - personally - plenty.
Second, it matters not that he personally didn't "pull the trigger" when the Kurds were gassed, or the prisoners were tortured, or the mass graves were filled. You can't vindicate the SOB with your cheap shots.
I don't think that's true. I believe in the 1960's or 1970's, he and the Baath party attempted a overthrow of the leader of Iraq during that time. I've seen documentaries where he was the one who stopped in front of the leader's car and opened fire on it, even though he missed the leader and shot one of his comrades.
Greyhound From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1026 posts, RR: 2 Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 745 times:
Quoting Airlinerfreak (Reply 8): Saddam killed not one soul, he was just the one who appointed the death of about 1,000,000 killings.
And Hitler was just a guy with a silly mustache who HAPPENED to appoint the murder of (how many million?) people. Saddam's guilty whether he pulled the proverbial trigger or not.
Jaspike From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2008, 1 posts, RR: 2 Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 739 times:
Quoting Airlinerfreak (Reply 8): He killed not one single person. Saddam killed not one soul, he was just the one who appointed the death of about 1,000,000 killings.
Quoting CORULEZ05 (Reply 13): I agree. He himself has not killed anyone.
Might have mentioned this a while ago, but I know this Iraqi who left Iraq and came to the UK just before Saddam came to power. He's now a millionaire and lives abroad. His family didn't come with him, and stayed in Iraq (Baghdad to be precise). He supported the war by the way.
Anyway, one story he told me last year when I was staying at one of his villas, was that a friend of his brother's had some sort of plan in the 80s (can't remember the details, but something to do with microchips) which would make Saddam loads of money. It failed miserably and ended up costing Saddam a fair bit, and he was called to see Saddam. He was then shot twice in the head. So that's at least one person he's killed.
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