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Saw An Avantime Yesterday!  
User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4088 times:

Well I finally did it - I witnessed the Holy Grail of European motoring.

I saw a Renault Avantime on the road yesterday on my way home from work. Quite an achievement when they only sold about 3 of the things in total  Wink

My life is complete, I can retire a happy car enthusiast !!

Anyone else seen one on the roads ?? (as opposed to motorshow or showroom?)

Actually it was quite a night to go home - I also followed a Ferrari 612 Scagliatti and a Ferrari 430 spyder, saw a Bentley Azure convertible, a Maserati Quattroporte and one of those pretty little 70s Lancia Fulvia 2 dr coupes. Made a change from the usual Focuses, Astras, etc.


Just when I thought I could see light at the end of the tunnel, it was some B*****d with a torch bringing me more work
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User currently offlineWhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4083 times:

Quoting Cornish (Thread starter):
I saw a Renault Avantime on the road yesterday on my way home from work. Quite an achievement when they only sold about 3 of the things in total

I never really worked out what the point of the Avantime was. What kind of company produces vehicles which compete with their own range?


User currently offlineOYRJA From Denmark, joined Feb 2007, 78 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4083 times:

Now that is an ugly ass car.. Big grin
Thankfully they have only sold about 3 or how many it was Big grin


User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4074 times:

What is an Avantime ? Is it like a VelSatis  yuck  ?

User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 4, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4070 times:

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 3):
What is an Avantime ? Is it like a VelSatis ?

The idea was a sports coupe-cum-people carrier - obviously an oxymoron 

[Edited 2005-05-13 11:53:18]


Just when I thought I could see light at the end of the tunnel, it was some B*****d with a torch bringing me more work
User currently offlineUTA_flyinghigh From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 6495 posts, RR: 50
Reply 5, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4062 times:

This is the thingy :



More (in French)
http://www.automobile-sportive.com/guide/renault/avantime.php

UTA  checkeredflag 



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User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4058 times:

Euwww - looks like something Thunderbird 2 would carry in its pod. NOT beautiful.

User currently offlineOYRJA From Denmark, joined Feb 2007, 78 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4050 times:

Why is it that Renault are making this spacy looking cars. They sure know how to make a nice car become ugly.

User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8725 posts, RR: 43
Reply 8, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4049 times:

Goodness... that thing looks worse than the Vel Satis! Talk about "achievement"!


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User currently offlineRedDragon From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 1135 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4043 times:

*drools*

I saw my first and still only Avantime on the road about 18 months ago, in a rather sublime setting. It was driving up Lenton Boulevard in Nottingham, which is in the middle of the student ghetto - not really where you'd expect to see an Avantime! But the sun was shining, the car was clean... great stuff!

The other day I got overtaken by a Maserati 3200GT with the boomerang lights. On the one hand I admired the driver for having the definitive version, styling-wise... on the other hand I wondered how he coped with the relatively rubbish dynamics  Smile

Can't wait to see a Quattroporte on the road - now there's a gorgeous limousine!

Also saw an electric Berlingo (badged Electrique) two days running this week, pootling around (well, parking actually, both times) on campus. I don't know if it's the university's or not, but it's not in Corporate Dark Blue.

Rich


User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 10, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4035 times:

Quoting RedDragon (Reply 9):
Can't wait to see a Quattroporte on the road - now there's a gorgeous limousine!

I drive past Maranello Concessionaires at Egham every day going to and from work. Its usually full of Ferraris and Porsches - but its the Quattroportes that catch my eye there at the moment.

The Avantime was in that blue colur that they all seem to have come in - although UTA's pic showed they did actually make it in another colour.



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User currently offlineRedDragon From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 1135 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4024 times:

Quoting Cornish (Reply 10):
The Avantime was in that blue colur that they all seem to have come in - although UTA's pic showed they did actually make it in another colour.

Yeah - if I had an Avantime I'd probably have it in the blue. I can't remember what colour the one I saw was...

A black Avantime might look the business! Or it might just look incredibly tacky...  Sad ...Speaking of which, yesterday I also saw a Ford Expedition super-stretch limo. It was in silver, which didn't help its cause, but I suppose at least it wasn't white...

Rich


User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8455 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4017 times:
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Looks like the new Scenic....therefore f'ing ugly, as are all Renaults.


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User currently offlineSkidmarks From UK - England, joined Dec 2004, 7121 posts, RR: 55
Reply 13, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4015 times:

Ugly cars, ugly aeroplanes, at last, something the French are good at!!!!!!!!!

Andy  old 



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User currently offlineIFLYMCO From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 482 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 4004 times:

I've seen exactly 1 of those "beauties" parked in Amsterdam.

A couple weeks back I rented a new Renualt model called a "Modus" while not as ugly as that beast still won't win any beauty contests.

I'm curious, how many of those Avantimes did they actually sell? The smaller Renault models are every 3rd car it seems like but those are incredibly rare to see.



Now it should be "IFLYDCA"
User currently offlineRedDragon From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 1135 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3983 times:

Today on the M1 I saw a Bentley Flying Spur!  eyepopping  It was overtaking me in my 60bhp Ibiza, unsurprisingly  Smile

Anyone else seen one on the road yet? (Not on trade plates, that doesn't count!) How long have they been on sale?

Rich


User currently offlineJamesbuk From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 3968 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3955 times:

you can tell its a french car and must be related to the airbus co.  Wink lol that thing looks like that renault megane with the fat a$$ and i can understand why only 3 were ever sold


You cant have your cake and eat it... What the hells the point in having it then!!!
User currently offlineRedDragon From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 1135 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3945 times:

Quoting Jamesbuk (Reply 16):
that thing looks like that renault megane with the fat a$$

Yeah, that's kind of intentional  Wink

Quoting Jamesbuk (Reply 16):
you can tell it...must be related to the airbus co...i can understand why only 3 were ever sold

Careful, at least the Avantime sold more copies than the Beluga (even if only just  eyepopping  Wink

Does anyone know in what markets other than France the Vel Satis is still being offered? (New-build, the facelift version - rejigged grille inserts and rear lights - not old stock.)

Rich


User currently offlineLijnden From Philippines, joined Apr 2003, 564 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3926 times:
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Did any of you guys look at www.autotrade.nl ? There are at least 8 you can buy! I see these cars drive by every day (my office is right next to the A4 motorway).


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User currently offlineRedDragon From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 1135 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3923 times:

Quoting Lijnden (Reply 18):
I see these cars drive by every day (my office is right next to the A4 motorway).

*drool*

I remember reading a letter in either Autocar or (maybe) Auto Express at around the time of the cancellation announcement, from a guy who owned a small company that was looking to replace its fleet of three PT Cruisers. (It was something of a media/design company IIRC, so had rather more of a design/style requirement than most companies!) Knowing full well the Avantime débacle, the guy went ahead and bought three. Fantastic! There was even a photo showing the three lined up, as I recall.

Rich


User currently offlineBraybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5758 posts, RR: 32
Reply 20, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3913 times:

It's an amazing and beautiful looking car and nothing like anything else on the roads at the moment. The reason it didn't sell is that it's way ahead of its time, this car will be a collector's item in twenty years time. Look at the new Megane, which takes its looks from the Avantime. . . that got off to a slow start, but once people got used to the look it started to sell. The French have a flair for designing original and classic cars, eg the Citroen 2CV and the timeless DS.

User currently offlineUTA_flyinghigh From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 6495 posts, RR: 50
Reply 21, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3903 times:

Quoting RedDragon (Reply 17):
Does anyone know in what markets other than France the Vel Satis is still being offered?

We have the thingy available here in Eire.

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User currently offlineSkidmarks From UK - England, joined Dec 2004, 7121 posts, RR: 55
Reply 22, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3896 times:

Its downright ugly and should have been shot at birth!!!!!!

The French can produce good looking cars, but this isn't one of them!!!!

Andy  old 

PS: You've no idea how painful it was for me to say that!!



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User currently offlinePaulc From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 1490 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3892 times:

seen one ? - have actually driven one - not too bad but the looks are awful. It belongs to a mate of mine with no taste but at least it is a step up from the 2CV he use used to own  Wink


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User currently offlineAerorobnz From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 7261 posts, RR: 13
Reply 24, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3877 times:

I saw the other 2 Avantime on one high street at the same time....beat that.... Wink Unfortunately an answer to a question nobody asked....that said it's a good design project.

I like the Renault Megane II Sedan, I think it and the Renault Clio Sport 182 are rather good looking actually. Actually Renaults are genuinely stylish cars, their avanguarde designs actually making cars have a bit of style, if it were that ugly the megane would not sell as many as it does.


25 SCCutler : Am I wack because I actually *like* French cars? I think that Avantime looks like an interesting and practical buggy. But, of course, I also thought t
26 Post contains images RedDragon : Paulc, your mate went from a 2CV to an Avantime? Not in one step I assume? Hmmm, don't think I'd have chosen the Mégane saloon/sedan as an example of
27 Cornish : Well your mate would be wise to hold on to it for as long as possible because in time the Avantime will almost certainly appreciate in value as a cla
28 Post contains images RedDragon : To my eyes (going only on publicity photos so far, of course) the new Bora looks better than the Passat - it seems to carry off that strangely boat-s
29 TriStarEnvy : As I understand it, Nissan will be using, in a way, some of these Renaults, as basis for cars coming to the USA. Car & Driver had a picture of a new N
30 Post contains images RedDragon : This may or may not be the same car(s) as TriStarEnvy is thinking of, but I recall seeing a (possibly official) picture of Nissan's new Almera-sized-i
31 Post contains images Paulc : Red Dragon, no he did have a montego or 2 + an espace or 2 before the Avantime - so still no sense of style or taste though The 2CV's were only ever h
32 Cornish : Well as if the shock of the Avantime wasn't enough, I saw a silver Vel Satis this morning too !! Yep - there's pictures in the current issue of CAR ma
33 Post contains images RedDragon : Paulc: not one Montego, but two! Classic My dad drove a Montego back when I was a nipper; it was a short-lived replacement for his company Austin Prin
34 Cornish : Ha ! No that's indeed what I do - although aviation is only a very small part of the work done here. most of it is in roads and safety - including do
35 Post contains images RedDragon : From Mazda's website (specifically, their amusingly named "Colourator") they appear to have all of seven colours (only three of which are actually co
36 Post contains images Cornish : That would be the Avantime or Vel Satis owner then I've also thought that if a pimp drove a people carrier he'd definitely drive a Grandis
37 Post contains images RedDragon : Well actually I was thinking of myself. It occurred to me when I saw a dark blue facelift Ibiza (old model) the same colour and with as many doors as
38 Post contains images Cornish : Nope Nope Of course my problem was that as soon as I bought my A3, I set the fashion and everybody then went and copied me - now everyone seems to be
39 Post contains images RedDragon : It's a difficult world you inhabit, isn't it? I can remember my father always saying the same thing back in the day when he went through a succession
40 Post contains images Cornish : Indeed, it's hard having to be at the front of the pack A few years back I had a rental Trooper in Cyprus - it was British Racing Green, chromed to t
41 Post contains images RedDragon : Ha ha!!! A Trooper with handling by Lotus? Of course, that doesn't actually equate Trooper handling behaviour to Lotus... Or maybe it just used the s
42 Post contains images Cornish : It didn't handle with quite the (ahem) elan of an Elise that's for sure
43 RedDragon : ...Or the élan of an Elan?
44 Post contains images Cornish : My use of the word elan was deliberate nor for that matter did it excel like an Excel
45 Post contains images RedDragon : I actually know a girl called Elise Oh, and I remembered what I was going to say earlier on... it comforts me that my Ibiza undoubtedly shares at leas
46 Post contains images Cornish : Sure does - and with a TiTty for that matter and a Skoda and a Golf and probably a Lamborghini and the new Bentley Flying spur - and maybe even with
47 Post contains images RedDragon : Now now, don't be rude. The Veyron... now there's a socially pointless car if ever there was one. Hee Do you read Flight? Sounds like something that
48 Cornish : I've actually seen one in the big VW group showroom on Unter den Linden in Berlin. Will we ever see it on sale I ask myself?
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