Sponsor Message:
Non Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
Exotic Names Don't Make The Grade!  
User currently offlineBRAVO7E7 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 1840 posts, RR: 17
Posted (9 years 5 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1413 times:

http://www.ktvu.com/education/4482169/detail.html
What could I possibly say without being called a racist? Wink

13 replies: All unread, jump to last
 
User currently offlineGarnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined exactly 11 years ago today! , 5404 posts, RR: 53
Reply 1, posted (9 years 5 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1399 times:

What's in a name? that which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet;

Thus quoth the Bard. Maybe the living conditions of little Da'Quan has something to do with his poor test scores rather than his name? This is, without a doubt, the most idiotic thread I've ever seen on a.net. Of course the A.Net Klan will probably jump all over it.  Yeah sure



South Carolina - too small to be its own country, too big to be a mental asylum.
User currently offlineSeptember11 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3623 posts, RR: 21
Reply 2, posted (9 years 5 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1384 times:

yeah, exotic names are now spreading all over!


Airliners.net of the Future
User currently offlineShyFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 5 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1372 times:

Quoting Garnetpalmetto (Reply 1):
Maybe the living conditions of little Da'Quan has something to do with his poor test scores rather than his name?

Actually, the article states this:

Quote:
Figlio said boys and girls with exotic names suffer in terms of the quality of attention and instruction they get in the classroom because teachers expect less from children with names that sound like they were given by parents with lower education levels. He said the lower expectations often become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

While the name itself is not to blame, it is the way the child is treated because of the name. Teachers, it would seem, shoulder some of the blame.


User currently offlineGarnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined exactly 11 years ago today! , 5404 posts, RR: 53
Reply 4, posted (9 years 5 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1360 times:

Quoting ShyFlyer (Reply 3):
While the name itself is not to blame, it is the way the child is treated because of the name. Teachers, it would seem, shoulder some of the blame.

Indeed - yet another variable that this bogus study can't really account for.



South Carolina - too small to be its own country, too big to be a mental asylum.
User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7414 posts, RR: 50
Reply 5, posted (9 years 5 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1361 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

I remember meeting a girl named Latrina Brown. I can't imagine what her parents were thinking, or at least someone at the hospital should've said something.

[Edited 2005-05-18 03:17:47]


Made from jets!
User currently offlineBRAVO7E7 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 1840 posts, RR: 17
Reply 6, posted (9 years 5 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1356 times:

Quoting Garnetpalmetto (Reply 4):

Indeed - yet another variable that this bogus study can't really account for.

Look, no where in here does it it say minorities are stupid. That point is one of the exact reasons that this is possibble. It does not blame the actual kids, but just making a statement about their conditions.


User currently offlineCaptOveur From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 5 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1303 times:

Here is my observation. This isn't meant to be racist but will probably sound racist to the PC crowd.

The black kids with the funky names tend to have something you could probably describe as excessive pride in their race (nothing wrong with pride in what you are, but it has limits). They have been trained by their parents and many of their peers to carry a massive chip on their shoulder over what happened to their race over 150 years ago. This usually leads to an entitlement mentality which results in not working as hard as they should because they want the world handed to them.

Just my 2 cents worth.


User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 5 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1295 times:

Quoting CaptOveur (Reply 7):

I've actually met alot of people like that, some can be quite arrogant and annoying. When I tell them my feelings, I'm all of a sudden a racist in their eyes...riiiiiight.


User currently offlineMdsh00 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4125 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (9 years 5 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1279 times:

I kinda have to agree with some of the points in this article. This kind of profiling happens in the workplace many times. For example, when a boss sees the resume of two black women, one named Christine and one named Shaniqua, he would probably be more inclined to interview the former. I'm not saying it's fair, but unfortunately it's true.


"Look Lois, the two symbols of the Republican Party: an elephant, and a big fat white guy who is threatened by change."
User currently offlineJasepl From India, joined Jul 2004, 3582 posts, RR: 39
Reply 10, posted (9 years 5 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1239 times:

Quoting Garnetpalmetto (Reply 1):
This is, without a doubt, the most idiotic thread I've ever seen on a.net.

Look who started it ! We can't expect any less, can we ?


User currently offlineFlybyguy From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1801 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (9 years 5 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1224 times:

What the heck is a Da'Quan?

Maybe the brother of this guy...




Seriously though I guess socio-economic standing is far more important factor to African American children's neglect than a name. All a racist teacher has to do is look at the kid to have lower expectations.

The article tries to be logical, but is severely flawed in it's arguement, therefore, it can take its place upon the copious pile of internet rubbish.

The article takes steriotypes and accentuates them with learned jargon. "Asian sounding names" = good grades... give me a break. It is very tempting to say that Asians in general have IQs above 140, but we must remember that those that we see here in the States becoming neuro-surgeons and engineering professors are only a "handfull" of billion or so they left behind in the Orient. I'm sure if any other race had 1 Billion + people that they would have their share of geniuses.


P.S. Does anyone know what the article means by Asian sounding names?



"Are you a pretender... or a thoroughbred?!" - Professor Matt Miller
User currently offlineSacflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 371 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (9 years 5 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1206 times:

Quoting Flybyguy (Reply 11):
Does anyone know what the article means by Asian sounding names?

Are you looking to change your kid's name?

Is anyone surprised that this study came out of Florida?



I'm just happy that RR ratings can't be in negative numbers!
User currently offlineKomododx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 5 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1157 times:

Quoting Sacflyer (Reply 12):
Is anyone surprised that this study came out of Florida?

No. Why should we be?

Stefano  wave 


Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
I Have Proof I Make The Best BBQ Ribs:Ask Ilikeyyc posted Wed Jul 12 2006 05:34:36 by DL021
Don't Watch The World Cup In Somalia! posted Thu Jul 6 2006 19:15:45 by MaverickM11
Aaah Make The Spam Stop! posted Sun Jul 2 2006 21:36:48 by Rolfen
What Should I Make The Work Experience Boy Do? posted Tue Feb 21 2006 11:24:21 by Nighthawk
Plain English? Don't Ask The Police! posted Fri Feb 17 2006 19:06:25 by Banco
Who Will Make The Millionth Post? posted Thu Dec 29 2005 19:02:15 by Andz
But Don't Mention The War - The Winning Proposal posted Thu Jun 9 2005 12:45:42 by NoUFO
Photos That Will Never Make The News.... posted Fri Jan 28 2005 07:15:58 by NWA742
For Those Who Don't Think The US Is Looking At posted Sun Nov 7 2004 16:10:30 by L-188
What Current MLB Players Will Make The HOF? posted Thu Jun 10 2004 16:32:11 by Alpha 1