Garnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5313 posts, RR: 53 Reply 1, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1182 times:
What's in a name? that which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet;
Thus quoth the Bard. Maybe the living conditions of little Da'Quan has something to do with his poor test scores rather than his name? This is, without a doubt, the most idiotic thread I've ever seen on a.net. Of course the A.Net Klan will probably jump all over it.
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ShyFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 3, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1155 times:
Quoting Garnetpalmetto (Reply 1): Maybe the living conditions of little Da'Quan has something to do with his poor test scores rather than his name?
Actually, the article states this:
Quote: Figlio said boys and girls with exotic names suffer in terms of the quality of attention and instruction they get in the classroom because teachers expect less from children with names that sound like they were given by parents with lower education levels. He said the lower expectations often become a self-fulfilling prophecy.
While the name itself is not to blame, it is the way the child is treated because of the name. Teachers, it would seem, shoulder some of the blame.
BRAVO7E7 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 1840 posts, RR: 18 Reply 6, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1139 times:
Quoting Garnetpalmetto (Reply 4):
Indeed - yet another variable that this bogus study can't really account for.
Look, no where in here does it it say minorities are stupid. That point is one of the exact reasons that this is possibble. It does not blame the actual kids, but just making a statement about their conditions.
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CaptOveur From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1086 times:
Here is my observation. This isn't meant to be racist but will probably sound racist to the PC crowd.
The black kids with the funky names tend to have something you could probably describe as excessive pride in their race (nothing wrong with pride in what you are, but it has limits). They have been trained by their parents and many of their peers to carry a massive chip on their shoulder over what happened to their race over 150 years ago. This usually leads to an entitlement mentality which results in not working as hard as they should because they want the world handed to them.
Mdsh00 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4119 posts, RR: 9 Reply 9, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1062 times:
I kinda have to agree with some of the points in this article. This kind of profiling happens in the workplace many times. For example, when a boss sees the resume of two black women, one named Christine and one named Shaniqua, he would probably be more inclined to interview the former. I'm not saying it's fair, but unfortunately it's true.
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Flybyguy From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1796 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1007 times:
What the heck is a Da'Quan?
Maybe the brother of this guy...
Seriously though I guess socio-economic standing is far more important factor to African American children's neglect than a name. All a racist teacher has to do is look at the kid to have lower expectations.
The article tries to be logical, but is severely flawed in it's arguement, therefore, it can take its place upon the copious pile of internet rubbish.
The article takes steriotypes and accentuates them with learned jargon. "Asian sounding names" = good grades... give me a break. It is very tempting to say that Asians in general have IQs above 140, but we must remember that those that we see here in the States becoming neuro-surgeons and engineering professors are only a "handfull" of billion or so they left behind in the Orient. I'm sure if any other race had 1 Billion + people that they would have their share of geniuses.
P.S. Does anyone know what the article means by Asian sounding names?
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