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CLE TV Station: Winslow Out For 2005  
User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 3 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1340 times:

Well, it's unofficially offical. Since Winslow, the jackass, his idiot family, and his even bigger idiot attorneys aren't talking, but apparently WKYC-TV, the NBC affilliate in Cleveland is reporting the news.

http://www.cleveland.com/wkyc/index.ssf?/news/more/05winslow18.html

Take all his friggin' money. One, because he was stupid, and two, because of this arrogant silence on his part.

[Edited 2005-05-19 04:57:41]

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User currently offlineIhadapheo From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 6027 posts, RR: 55
Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1336 times:

to paraphrase the great Arlo Guthrie....

"He is in quite a pickle because of his motorsickle".

I am truly sorry for all the Browns fans down the 90 and I hope there are better times to come

IHAP



Pray hard but pray with care For the tears that you are crying now Are just your answered prayers
User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 3 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1305 times:

This is hilarious. Sorry C-Town but thats what you get for drafting the Soldier.

User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11447 posts, RR: 75
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1300 times:
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Sucks to be a Cleveland fan.....again.


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User currently offlineGreyhound From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1026 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1288 times:

Quoting KROC (Reply 2):
This is hilarious. Sorry C-Town but thats what you get for drafting the Soldier.

hahahaha. I remember his little tirade in front of the media. I'm surprised they drafted him in the first place. Good in college, but overrated going into the NFL.

Quoting Falcon84 (Thread starter):
the jackass, his idiot family, and his even bigger idiot attorneys

I like that quote! Honestly, I never heard of his dad until draft day came around and that's all ESPN could talk about. Well, that and Mel Kiper's hair.



29th, Let's Go!
User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11447 posts, RR: 75
Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1283 times:
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Kids who's egos have their own posse should be ignored in the draft and left to rot in the Canadian league for a year or two. That or semi-pro ball with the Shreveport Boilermakers.

Quoting Greyhound (Reply 4):
Honestly, I never heard of his dad until draft day came

Kiss my ass, swabbie! There's nothing funny about some kid who never heard of Kellen Winslow, Jackie Gleason or the Lone Ranger! I'm not that freaking old!


ormaybeiam.....crap!  Wink



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User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1283 times:

Quoting Greyhound (Reply 4):
Good in college, but overrated going into the NFL.

Overrated? I doubt it. He was rated for talent #1 on most draft boards. He went #6, and probably would have gone higher if not for some concerns, as we've had confimred again, about his character. His ability has never been in question, far as I'm concerned. If the numbnut can recover fully from this, he still cand be an incredible talent-fast, tall, great hands, and great natural instincts for the game. Hardly overrated.

Quoting Greyhound (Reply 4):
I never heard of his dad until draft day came around and that's all ESPN could talk about.

Gawd, thanks for making some of us feel REAL old! His dad was perhaps the greatest tight end the game has ever seen, and the sad thing is he wasn't near the arrogant ass his son is. Kellen Sr. was an incredible player.


User currently offlineGreyhound From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1026 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1277 times:

Quoting DL021 (Reply 5):
Jackie Gleason or the Lone Ranger! I'm not that freaking old!

I've heard of them anyhow....  Wink

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 6):
Gawd, thanks for making some of us feel REAL old! His dad was perhaps the greatest tight end the game has ever seen,

OOPS on making everyone feel old (not my intention). It's just that even when I was little, I'd here of Bart Starr, Joe Greene, Johnny Unitas, and guys like that. But I had no clue who Kellen Winslow Sr. is. As far as him not being overrated, it's hard to tell. How many "sure things" have come out of college, been hyped up by ESPN, and then been busts? I've seen alot of players look like bona fide hall-of-famers coming out of college, but when they get to the pros... nada. Whatever a player's actual talent level, I think alot are just hyped up to get people excited and keep them tuned in to umptysquat sports host, so they get ratings.



29th, Let's Go!
User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1276 times:

Quoting Greyhound (Reply 7):
How many "sure things" have come out of college, been hyped up by ESPN, and then been busts?

Unfortunately, because of a freak injury on the field, and his own stupidity off the field, we have no clue as to whether he'll be a "bust" on the field. There are countless stories of first-round picks, because of injury who were busts, and countless stories (Cryin' Leaf comes to mind) of guys who were busts simply because they were over-rated as talents.

If and until Winslow gets on the field, there's no way to tell where he falls talent-wise, in that group. If he wouldn't recover, of course, he'd be considered a bust, but not because of talent, but because of one, a freak injury and two, because of his own stupidity.

The Browns can boast, if you want to use that word, one of the most tragic first round picks of all time. Back in '62, I believe, they drafted a running back out of Syracuse, named Ernie Davis. Davis was the '61 Heisman Trophy winner, and the Browns traded a great WR, Bobby Mitchell, to the 'Skins to get him. First team All-American, had shattered most of Jim Brown's records at Syracuse, and the Browns had this vision of a Brown-Davis backfield.

Shortly after the College All Star game (for you youngsters, before there was a Pro Bowl, there was an all-star game between the NFL/later SuperBowl champion, and a group of college all-stars), he was diagnosed with Lieukemia. By the following year, he was dead. The Browns, to honor him, retired the number he never got to wear for the Browns.


User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 3 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1268 times:

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 6):
Overrated? I doubt it. He was rated for talent #1 on most draft boards. He went #6, and probably would have gone higher if not for some concerns, as we've had confimred again, about his character.

The Sgt. was good in college but his senior season sucked. Granted he had that piece of crap Brock Berlin throwing him the ball, but he did relatively nothing. His NFL career was bound to happen the way its gone. Oh, and Falcon, Ryan Leaf was rated extremely high for talent too. There goes that rating system right out the window.


User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 10, posted (9 years 3 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1258 times:

I'm a motha F-ing soldier...This is war...If I didn't get them, they were going to get me..

Ah one of the best speeches ever.

I wonder if he was talking about another team he was playing or his motorcycle?



Go big or go home
User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 3 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1254 times:

This guy is dumb as anything for not only wrecking on his motorcycle butfor riding it in the first place.

Signed, Jay Williams from Rehab care of the Chicago Bulls


User currently offlineSlider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6793 posts, RR: 34
Reply 12, posted (9 years 3 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1246 times:

Quoting DL021 (Reply 3):
Sucks to be a Cleveland fan.....again.

Other than the Otto Graham era, when did it NOT suck to be a Brownies fan?  Wink


User currently offlineLogan22L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 3 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1244 times:

Quoting Slider (Reply 12):
Other than the Otto Graham era, when did it NOT suck to be a Brownies fan?

Hey Jim Brown was pretty good, and that was only ~40 years ago. Wink

Logan


User currently offlineGarnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5385 posts, RR: 53
Reply 14, posted (9 years 3 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1244 times:

Apparently other teams are starting to get nervous in regards to star players who ride motorcycles. I was reading the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette in which Cowher mentioned he had tried to talk Ben Roethlisberger out of his habit of riding his Harley without a helmet. When that failed, he asked Tommy Maddox to try, but Maddox really couldn't, as he also rides his Hog helmetless.


South Carolina - too small to be its own country, too big to be a mental asylum.
User currently offlineGreyhound From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1026 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (9 years 3 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1241 times:

Quoting Slider (Reply 12):
Quoting DL021 (Reply 3):
Sucks to be a Cleveland fan.....again.

Other than the Otto Graham era, when did it NOT suck to be a Brownies fan?

It could be worse... you could be an Arizona/Phoenix Cardinals fan.



29th, Let's Go!
User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13073 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (9 years 3 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1238 times:

The NFL ought to step in here and require in all player contracts certain conditions requiring 'safe beheavor' by the players off field to protect them, their team and the League. This would have to be negotiated firmly by the team owners with the players union, but it would be in their members best interest at well. This should include limits as to riding motorcycles, or if do so, must wear a helmet or forfit a fine. If injured doing something specified or generally considered risky, then you lose some contract money for at least the time you are not available.

User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11447 posts, RR: 75
Reply 17, posted (9 years 3 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1237 times:
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Quoting KROC (Reply 9):
Ryan Leaf was rated extremely high for talent too. There goes that rating system right out the window.

Ryan Leaf had enormous natural talent....the rating system simply assumes that all players can have their personality defects coached out of their game. Unfortunately there are always exceptions that prove the rule.

Quoting Slider (Reply 12):
Other than the Otto Graham era, when did it NOT suck to be a Brownies fan?

logan answered that quite well.

Quoting Logan22L (Reply 13):
Hey Jim Brown was pretty good,



Is my Pan Am ticket to the moon still good?
User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 33
Reply 18, posted (9 years 3 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1237 times:

Somebody injured himself riding his bike, then clammed up about the whole thing..........what an idiot!

Signed,
Jeff Kent



"The criminal ineptitude makes you furious"-Bruce Springsteen, after seeing firsthand the damage from Hurricane Katrina
User currently offlineGarnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5385 posts, RR: 53
Reply 19, posted (9 years 3 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1235 times:

Coach, QB Split on Motorcycle Issue

Like Roethlisberger, Maddox Rides Motorcycle Without Helmet

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 16):
The NFL ought to step in here and require in all player contracts certain conditions requiring 'safe beheavor' by the players off field to protect them, their team and the League

Already exists in a standard NFL contract, LT. They're prohibited from participating in "potentially dangerous activities."



South Carolina - too small to be its own country, too big to be a mental asylum.
User currently offlineSlider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6793 posts, RR: 34
Reply 20, posted (9 years 3 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1228 times:

Quoting Greyhound (Reply 15):
It could be worse... you could be an Arizona/Phoenix Cardinals fan.

Good point! BWAHAHAAA! Or a New Orleans Saints fan!

Damn, the Browns are cursed. Winslow is an idiot.


User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 33
Reply 21, posted (9 years 3 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1225 times:

Quoting Slider (Reply 20):
Or a New Orleans Saints fan!

Indeed, we are a troubled and long-suffering lot  wink .

Tom at MSY



"The criminal ineptitude makes you furious"-Bruce Springsteen, after seeing firsthand the damage from Hurricane Katrina
User currently offlineLogan22L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (9 years 3 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1214 times:

Quoting Tom in NO (Reply 21):
Indeed, we are a troubled and long-suffering lot

I guess it's the association that I make with the Patriots, who, like the Saints, were incredibly adept at sucking for a very long time, but I root for the Saints. You never know what can happen, especially in the NFL. A few changes here and there and good things can happen. The Pats made it out, and so can the Saints. Hang in there. That said, the Saints will probably suck this year. Wink

Logan


User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (9 years 3 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1205 times:

Great article at ESPN.com, that really rips Winslow, like nothing else I've read.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/column...lumnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2063881


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