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User currently offlineVS747SPUR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 373 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 957 times:

Hi all,
Quite a lot of you (especially those in the UK) would have seen alot of attention being given to a supposed 'Yob' culture. This has been particually aimed at youths in hooded tops. The first point I want to make is that is there any specific evidance that people in hooded tops are the main cause for this 'yob' culture and is this just discrimination ? I just feel its a few idiots spoiling it for the rest.

Secondly, Prime Minister Tony Blair has vowed to stamp down on youth 'yobbish' behaviour. I don't want anyone to take my opinion on this as being the correct opinion, but how about 'yobbish' behaviour from groups such as Gipsies, who, in my experience, have caused vast amounts of crime and trespassed on private property (Im not saying gypsies are the only group to contribute to such behaviour) ? Just seems to me Blair is taking the easy option, yet again.

Your opinions ?

VS747SPUR


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User currently offlineSilverfox From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 1058 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 950 times:

Blair is a pain in the arse
Wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire
A lying so and so at the best of times
Quote 1 'Saddam can stay if he gets rid of the WMD'
When no WMD found quote 2 'Oh we went in to get rid of Saddam'
And although i am no lawyer i think that is illegal under the UN rules.. to for one (or in this case 2) countries to overthrow an elected (and if doesnt matter how iffy the elections are) person
Just see how quick the US and UK are in getting rid of Mugabe
Dont hold your breath
and i still cannot see how he got a slipped disc when it is quite apparent that he has no backbone
And i agree that the gyppos should be dealt with in a more effective way
Just get the Tax and Vat man on them. The Irish can do it but its those bloody PC and socials bastards who put the spoke in here
I'm off to have my pills now!!!


User currently offlineMhodgson From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2002, 5047 posts, RR: 25
Reply 2, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 933 times:

no - but every piece of verbal or physical abuse I have suffered from yobs comes from under a baseball cap, hooded top or combination of the two. In fact this happened the other day: myself and friends going to the pub to celebrate school finishing, a load of stereotypical chavs, 6 of them, all about 12-14 years old see us with silly hair and decide to start calling us 'grammar poofs' (traditional insult), and hurled a smoke bomb thing and a plastic bottle at us. We found this hugely amusing as they were so small, and continued walking. One of them then runs up behind us and jumps on my mates back, smacking him round the head. He gets thrown off, and continues to try and hit us. But we just laugh, and walk in the pub, while they have to stand around outside. Ha.

It probably is a few idiots spoiling it for the rest - but if you choose to dress like that, bear the consequences. If you do not want to be amrked as a potential troublemaker by the public, don't wear the uniform. Wear a police officer uniform - I'll assume you're a police officer. Wear a chav uniform, I'll assume you're a chav.



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User currently offlineVS747SPUR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 373 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 925 times:

Quoting Mhodgson (Reply 2):
but if you choose to dress like that, bear the consequences. If you do not want to be amrked as a potential troublemaker by the public, don't wear the uniform. Wear a police officer uniform - I'll assume you're a police officer. Wear a chav uniform, I'll assume you're a chav.

I can see your point, but is it fair to say that because someone is dressed like something then that is what they are ?

I am not one of these people in baseball caps and hoodies, but I will stand up for them in a slight way, as I just think the attention this issue has drawn in the UK has been highly stereotypical of these cap and hoody wearers.


VS747SPUR



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User currently offlineBMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 58
Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 915 times:

I hate Yobs/Chavs/Scroats/Wideboys etc.

All nothing but lowlife troublemakers with nothing better to do.

Just my opinion.....


Lee



Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own
User currently offlineRyangooner From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 969 posts, RR: 23
Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 907 times:

I wear a Police Officers uniform and a hoodie and baseball cap....

There is a difference, i dont use the hoodie to hide my face, it is a fact the yob culture have found a uniform to hide behind and it is very difficult to identify the true troublemakers, ask a victim to describe their attacker - hoodie and baseball cap - that narrows it down to 30 youths in the immediate area.

not sure what the answer is........

A well known shopping center has banned hoodies? does that mean i cannot wear my hoodie into that set of shops - i hope not!

Ryan



ooh to ooh to be ooh to be a gooner!
User currently offlineN754AN From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 900 times:

Quoting BMIFlyer (Reply 4):
I hate Yobs/Chavs/Scroats/Wideboys etc.

Not forgetting "hoodies"!!

"Scroats" - That's how we described them when I was working on the railway  rotfl 

Chris


User currently offlineWhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 893 times:

The whole scrote uniform of caps, hoodies, balaclavas and black Nike gear is to ensure that surveillance cameras can't pick them up easily and identify them.

As they are pack animals, one gets the idea and the rest follow. Just like Burberry caps. So wearing a hoodie supposedly states that the wearer is a big, hard criminal that the Police can't catch.

We've always had the same problem, just in different clothes. It exists in many other countries as well. However the hoodie thing currently doing the rounds makes it more sinister and newsworthy.


User currently offlineQANTASFOREVER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 870 times:

"oooh my god like I sooooooo can't believe you just said that. Because me and me friend michelle was like walking down putney train station lookin for some woin bags, like. And then fat Jacinta walks up lookin loike a total slut and she's all loike: "Oi vicky I herd that you was getting beatin's from Nat cos you was giving a blowie to mick down behind the knackery" so I was like "SHUT -UP just so loike SHUT-UP Jacinta you fat whore" - (nobody listens to her anyway because she's got a lazy eye and she smells like cheddar). Then michells loike all huffin about and thows this woine bag at her which was sooo ros because it totally burst all over her fat pink nylons and gave her chafin'."

QFF


User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 13990 posts, RR: 62
Reply 9, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 864 times:

:D Big grin Big grin Big grin

Jan

Filler


User currently offlineMhodgson From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2002, 5047 posts, RR: 25
Reply 10, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 820 times:

Quoting VS747SPUR (Reply 3):
I can see your point, but is it fair to say that because someone is dressed like something then that is what they are ?

You are right - I know people who wear hoodies (ryangooner  Wink, my brother (who couldn't fight his way out of a paper bag...) and his mates), and know they aren't trouble makers. The problem is that as soon as I see someone wearing the hoodie over cap combo, I immediately assume they are trouble makers. And generally I am right - perhaps they don't affect me, but I often see them walking down streets in large groups hogging the pavement, or harassing people for no reason and being generally antisocial. The uniform they wear is also worn at night when they lurk on street corners, hurling abuse at anyone who walks past them, much less challenges them. Hell, as soon as I saw that group on Friday I knew they would say something - it's all a risk of going to my grammar school - and I was correct.

The unifom they wear is about the only uniform of the chav - I never see this sort of behaviour from those dressed normally, as they tend to be on the recieving end. Because no other 'fashion groups' act in the same way, in my experience, I thus tar the chavs with the same brush.



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User currently offlineSevenair From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 1728 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 808 times:

well, i think its good, its people like me who live in poor areas who are FAR more likely to come into contact with yobs, so bringing the problem to attention is a good thing, and the policies of dealing with this culture are only a good thing. Go Tony!! Help people like me. Help us walk down the street, use our metros (subways) without fear, let us live in our houises without fear of bricks landing through our windows, let us live in our homes in peace, and not kept up til 3am most nights by yob parties next door. I welcome this move.

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