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Should I Join The US Army?  
User currently offlineUSAir330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 822 posts, RR: 1
Posted (9 years 3 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3713 times:

Well guys I have till June 12th to make a decision and sign that peice of paper that makes you property of George W. Bush. Either I sign by 11:59P June 12th or have to take the ASVAB Test again .....

Any Suggestions??? Pro's/Con's ??? I'm only 19 and I realize this will change my life dramatically.... It can either turn me into the right path for a career or the right path for death?

-Esco

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User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3711 times:

If you join the military, you will only be doing one thing.

If you believe that the military drops bombs on innocent defenseless civilians just trying to make their own ways in life and shoots up women and children just for fun, then the military is probably not for you.

Conversely, if you believe that every bullet fired is fired to protect democracy, and that all war that the US starts is for that same purpose, then the military is probably the right path for you.

Does that help?


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 3 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3708 times:

I can't tell you whether or not to join the US Army, that's your call . . .

But I can tell you I did that in 1977 and stayed for 24 years. I had an awesome career, went to some great places, and not so great places, and met thousands of people all over the world. It was a tremendous ride that I'd gladly do all over again.

You're right . . . it will change your life . . . and if you give it a shot, as did I, it will be a change for the better. It will be what you make it though. And it won't always be cream cheese and gravy . . . . no job is that.

If you'd like more info on things, let me know . . . . I'm 4 years in to my retirement . . . still stay up to speed with things . . . .

If you decide to go, good luck . . . .


User currently onlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29792 posts, RR: 58
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3698 times:

Joining the Army is a very personal thing....don't let your relatives make the decision for you.

Looking back on it, I think I joined for several different reasons, chance to get away from home, lack of planning in HS for college, not sure what I wanted to do out of high school ot begin with. Didn't even take a full enlistment term to decide that wasn't it.

Which is fine. I do have some good memories of being in the service, and more then a couple of times a year I start wondering if getting out was that bright of an idea. But I wouldn't recommed that just anybody join.

Give any thought to being a weekend wonder? As in the Guard or Reserve? Another idea would be to seek out a shorter term enlistment, I think they still do 2 year ones for some MOS's. Give you a shorter time to figure out if that is what you wanted to do.



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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3696 times:

Quoting L-188 (Reply 3):
Give any thought to being a weekend wonder? As in the Guard or Reserve? Another idea would be to seek out a shorter term enlistment, I think they still do 2 year ones for some MOS's.

Guard or Reserve is also an option as L-188 points out . . . that said, remember that half the troops currently deployed in various Theaters of Operation today are Guard or Reserve. . . .

Doesn't matter what the term of enlistment might be - you will sign up for 6 years initially . . . . how those years are disbursed is a different story . . . 2 could be active, 3 could be active, 4 could be active, all 6 could be active. The balance remaining will be in the Inactive Ready Reserve, from which one may be recalled in a time of war. Regardless, the initial hitch will commit you to 6 years total time. Don't let that scare you though, as I said . . . only a portion of it will be active.

And listen to L-188 . . . joining the Army is an extremely personal thing. hence the fact I didn't answer you yes or no on your initial question.

It's your call. Good luck . . .


User currently offlineUSAir330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 822 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3686 times:

Thanx Guys!!!

This is the most positive advice I've received from anyone.... everyone keeps telling me not to go because of the war and that I should go to college instead.... Even though college is almost always the right path... I'm young have no kids and no commitments.... I have a g/f but she's been real supportive about it.

I know the decision is up to me and so far it looks like im going.... Only thing I'm really scared of is actually leaving Philly.... it would be the first time to leave for such a long time but I know you have to experience new things in life and this is my chance......

For me it's not about the money but it has more to do with the oppurtunities that I can take advantage of in the ARMY. Although no one wants to die, I rather die fighting for a country that has always taken care of me than being murdered in the streets of philly for no reason.......

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 2):
If you'd like more info on things, let me know . . . . I'm 4 years in to my retirement . . . still stay up to speed with things . . . .

When you have the time can you E-Mail with a list of pros/cons and what I should expect in basic training and after basic. I would really appreciate it!
 

My recruiter already answered most of these questions but Its always good to get a 2nd persons opinion that's been in the ARMY.

[Edited 2005-05-24 09:01:24]

User currently offlineGOCAPS16 From Japan, joined Jan 2000, 4339 posts, RR: 21
Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3683 times:

Ask yourself..Are you willing to risk your life for your country and your fellow soldiers on the front line? Are you capable of killing your enemy that tries to kill you? Also, ask yourself, why are you doing this option? Do you want to be a hero where you live going to war? Do you want a good education? Or perhaps, if you work in the aviation field, medical, or admin, will it be worth the experience for another career if you serve your term or retire? Or, did you just join the Army becuase they'll give you a $20,000 sign up bonus? People join for obvious reasons. Personally, I signed the contract and gave my life with the U.S. Navy when I was 17 years old, prior to entering my senior year in high school. I had all my paperwork submitted, got my GUARANTEED job, my bonus, and my score submitted and all I had to do was wait a year to finish up high school then enter Navy life to basic training.

Make sure now you ask EVERY small questions about the Army to your recruiter becuase most recruiters I know, are liars. They just want you to sign the contract, that's it. Make sure you get a guarantee job, (depends on your ASVAB) bonuses, (have it in writing with an official U.S. Army seal on it) and such. You still have some time to research and if you get the time, talk to some guys who are in the Army and ask them questions. A good site is www.military.com. They have a forum where you can ask questions.

Anyway, I hope I haven't left out some pertinent information, but as an NCO, I'm here to help you. Whatever you choose, it's really up to you. Good luck, soldier! Godspeed.

Kevin


User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3679 times:

No. You only get one life, don't waste it.

User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3677 times:

Quoting USAir330 (Reply 5):
When you have the time can you E-Mail with a list of pros/cons and what I should expect in basic training and after basic. I would really appreciate it!

Check your mail . . .


User currently onlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29792 posts, RR: 58
Reply 9, posted (9 years 3 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3670 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 4):
Doesn't matter what the term of enlistment might be - you will sign up for 6 years initially . . . . how those years are disbursed is a different story . . . 2 could be active, 3 could be active, 4 could be active, all 6 could be active. The balance remaining will be in the Inactive Ready Reserve, from which one may be recalled in a time of war. Regardless, the initial hitch will commit you to 6 years total time. Don't let that scare you though, as I said . . . only a portion of it will be active.

Correction, but you enlist for 8 years, not six. The mix could be 2/6 3/5 4/4 6/2.

But you are correct, and I would also add that DEP time is also counted toward that 8 year enlisment. In my case I signed up in April of 91, and was discharged officailly in 99.

But I went to basic in september of 91 and out out in 94. The rest of that time was in IRR.



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User currently offlineNonrvsmdmf From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 186 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 3 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3666 times:

The army is a great choice if you have any idea what career path you
want to follow.

I see you want to someday be in ATC. Does your ASVAB score qualify
you to enter that MOS. If it does, and that is really what you want
to do I would go for it.

Dont make the mistake I did. I had no real direction, and all I wanted to
do was get out of my boring regular life ASAP. My ASVAB qualified me
for just about every MOS except combat since women were not allowed.
If I could have waited a couple of months I could have gone into what
I wanted. Since I wanted to join ASAP and not wait I had 3 options:
cook, something having to do with bombs and the last sat coms which
is what I chose.

I did enjoy my time in the military and I learned more than I could of
on the outside.

I was in during the first Gulf War time so I do not know how much the
rules have changed. If your ASVAB is a little short of what you need
for what you want to do, its ok to take it again to try and improve
your score.

Make sure you get everything in writing from the recruiter. There is
a lot of paperwork but make sure you read everything, and I mean
everything before you sign. Also find out, if you do join and for
some reason you do not pass the muster in the job you have chosen
where you will be assigned. You do not want to start school for ATC
and end up being a cook for 4 years because you washed out of the
program.



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User currently offlineNumberTwelve From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 1431 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (9 years 3 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3662 times:

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 7):
No. You only get one life, don't waste it.

The point is to waste one life that is in the hands of a fundameltalist war monger from the US.
Do something senceful with your life



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User currently onlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29792 posts, RR: 58
Reply 12, posted (9 years 3 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3651 times:

Quoting Nonrvsmdmf (Reply 10):
The army is a great choice if you have any idea what career path you
want to follow

Actually like I said before one of the reasons why I joined right out of high school was that I didn't have any idea what I wanted to do and thought maybe I could figure out what it was while in the service.

Quoting Nonrvsmdmf (Reply 10):
The army is a great choice if you have any idea what career path you
want to follow.

You know, I don't think I agree with that. While there are may jobs that relate to civilian jobs, the military often doesn't provide the same certifications that the civilian world requires.

If I had to do it all over again, I would have probably picked something more "fun" rather then technical in nature.

One of my biggest regrets is that I never drove a tank or had another MOS with greater access to artillery or machine guns. Paid the same as my MOS but hey at least I could have said, "I used to do that"




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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 3 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3646 times:

Quoting Nonrvsmdmf (Reply 10):
The army is a great choice if you have any idea what career path you
want to follow.

I knew early on - before high school - that I wanted to join the Army. So my only choice was . . . what shall I do in said Army. I saw a tank once, at a recruiting shindig. I was sold.

Of course, what they didn't say was, for every day the damn thing moves, you spend three hours fixing it. . . not, of course, with the new Abrams, but this was an old M60A1. . . .

It was only after I had been in the Army a few years and got the big gun thing out of my system, that I came to realize I still had no plan for the future. I went to college . . . paid for entirely by the Army . . . and after a few years, got my degree. . . and it's in a career field in which I'm currently employed . . .

So, even if you don't know right away what you'd like to do 10-20-30 years on, it's still a decent place to hang your hat for a few years.


User currently offlinePlanespotterx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 3 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3639 times:

Yea join the army...if you have a deathwish, want to loose your identity, want to "get away" from any life you want and family, want terrorists shooting back at you, want a guy screaming in your face for making a simple mistake, having to eat sh.t for 30 years and cant choose or complain about it.
lol go ahead..I know I wont be.


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 3 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3631 times:

Planespotterx And you base this opinion on what experience???? Given your 16-20 year old age group - you've not been properly laid yet . . . how the hell do you make this call?

I absorb JGPH1As opinion because he's a veteran on this board, and makes intelligent posts, and has fact to back up his theories; I respect his opinion. I disregard #12 entirely because he is anti-Everydamnthing . . . he hates anything to do with the US, and anything to do with life . . . he is a non-factor.

Your post is irrelevent . . .

Irrelevent in that you don't even have 30 years on this planet with which to base your inane and definitely incorrect assessment of military life. Irrelevent in that you cannot and have not been afforded an opportunity to serve any country, even your own, because you're still milking elsewhere.

I don't begrudge a persons educated opinion. . . I do laugh at those such as yours borne of complete ignorance. When you grow up. . . . give is a call . . .

Regards. . . .


User currently offlineAzoresLover From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 755 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (9 years 3 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3629 times:
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Of course that decision is yours...just gather as many facts and opinions as possible, and decide accordingly.

Personally, I highly respect those who serve in our armed forces. I spent 6 years on active duty with the Air Force, and do not regret any part of it.

I'm sure ANCFlyer is giving you some good info to help you decide, as he devoted so much of his life to the military.

Best to you however you decide.



Those who want to do something will find a way; those who don't will find an excuse.
User currently offlineSaintsman From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 2065 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (9 years 3 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3619 times:

The are obviously pros and cons. I was in the Air Force and I remember when I used to come home all my friends were doing the same old things. In the forces you get to experience things that money can't buy. Those experiences can make you a better person and definately more worldly wise. I don't regret the time I served one bit and most other ex-servicemen will say the same.

As for the Army, it depends what you are going to do. I can see no attraction of being in the front line being shot at. Cannon fodder is no career IMO. However there are a number of jobs that are much more appealing and have the bonus of giving you a trade for when you eventually leave. You should really use the Army for your own benefit. I don't mean that selfishly but to use the Army as the basis of your career through life. You will give back plenty in exchange as you serve.

By joining up you will learn more about yourself than you would by taking an 'easier' option. It's worth a go.


User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 3 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3616 times:

Quoting Saintsman (Reply 17):
In the forces you get to experience things that money can't buy.

Hmm, like getting blown up, shot at, maimed, all the while being yelled at and humiliated (by your own side !), and all for an incredibly low salary ! Yeah, sounds like a smart career choice to me. I did military service too, and it is nothing to write home about.


User currently offlineSaintsman From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 2065 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (9 years 3 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3607 times:

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 18):
Hmm, like getting blown up, shot at, maimed, all the while being yelled at and humiliated (by your own side !), and all for an incredibly low salary ! Yeah, sounds like a smart career choice to me. I did military service too, and it is nothing to write home about.

Never happened to me, but we used to send the officers to fight. The salary was okay. I could afford to buy my own house and run a new car with a wife and two kids in tow.

JGPH1A, did you volunteer or were you conscripted? There's a big difference if you want to join up of your own accord.


User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years 3 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3604 times:

Quoting Saintsman (Reply 19):
JGPH1A, did you volunteer or were you conscripted?

Conscripted, but I don't see how that makes a difference to the overall experience. Career professionals also get blown up and yelled at by morons. It's a military tradition.


User currently offlineNumberTwelve From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 1431 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (9 years 3 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3581 times:

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 18):
Quoting Saintsman (Reply 17):
In the forces you get to experience things that money can't buy.

Hmm, like getting blown up, shot at, maimed, all the while being yelled at and humiliated (by your own side !),

JGP, good answer. But we see: when you are working for forces, you learn for life.



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User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 852 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (9 years 3 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3573 times:

Dont do it, dont do it, dont do it!!!!!!!!!!

You´ll end up in Iraq and get youre head blown off thx to GWB who didnt give a f*** about UN and the WMD they never found.....that big liar!!

Do something useful of youre life and screw the army!

My  twocents 

Micke//SE



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User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11447 posts, RR: 75
Reply 23, posted (9 years 3 months 1 day ago) and read 3550 times:
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Quoting USAir330 (Thread starter):
Well guys I have till June 12th to make a decision and sign that peice of paper that makes you property of George W. Bush. Either I sign by 11:59P June 12th or have to take the ASVAB Test again .....

You will not be the property of, but under the ultimate command of the President. Should you join you would be much more concerned about the Staff Sergeant that will be your squad leader.

Quoting USAir330 (Thread starter):
Any Suggestions??? Pro's/Con's ??? I'm only 19 and I realize this will change my life dramatically.... It can either turn me into the right path for a career or the right path for death?

ANC doesn't feel comfortable saying yes or no...and to a degree I don't either. I will say that, from looking at your profile, you and I seemed to be at the exact same place while making the decision. I was working at the Dominos Pizza in Tucker Georgia while attending High School and was looking for a way to do something interesting, that would help with school, but more importantly be of some service to my country. I had been all over and seen what we had versus what else was out there and I thought we had it pretty good, and I should do my part.

Other than Solnab-zero (and if you look at 3000+posts with a RR of 5 you should get an idea of how much stock to place in his opinion) the previous posts are a fair description. You will go to interesting places, and to boring places...you will meet terrific people and idiots.....you will be paid very little, but have a set of invaluable experiences that will pay off down the road.

The Army is not for everyone...none of the Armed Services are. You have to be willing to subordinate yourself for the greater good of your team/unit and the most important things in your life will become the guys around you.

In the Army you can choose the job you want, and there are plenty. They are offering pretty decent bonuses, but thats not the reason to join. If you go you will be participating in the process and defending your country....no matter what you will hear from some people. There have always been the people lined up to protest any form of military and have always called soldiers names.

If you do join remember a few things.......#1 There is nothing in your initial training that your leadership will ask of you that they have not already done, and it is definitely possible. #2. Basic training is all in your head. Decide that you can do it and they will develop you to reach the level of fitness required. #3. DO NOT TAKE ANY OF IT PERSONALLY. Basic training is all about putting stress on you and trying to make you crack. They will call you names and make you do pushups, and they will make you rush through meals and make your bunk....and everything has a purpose. None of it is designed to be personal, and if you keep that in mind everything will be much easier.

Its pretty much all in your head. Remember that its not such a big thing and that you can do whatever task has been laid out in front of you.
Remember that there is more than the US Army....you've got the Air Force (my nephew just joined and will be shipping out in September) the Marines, the Navy, and even the Coast Guard is vital and demanding.

Feel free to email me with questions.

Quoting Saintsman (Reply 19):

JGPH1A, did you volunteer or were you conscripted? There's a big difference if you want to join up of your own accord.

This is true. Volunteers have a different perspective because they wanted to be there and had to jump thru hoops to do it.

Quoting Planespotterx (Reply 14):
Yea join the army...if you have a deathwish, want to loose your identity, want to "get away" from any life you want and family, want terrorists shooting back at you, want a guy screaming in your face for making a simple mistake, having to eat sh.t for 30 years and cant choose or complain about it.
lol go ahead..I know I wont be.

That's ok, pumpkin.......they probably would have rejected you for physical inability anyway....provided you could get past your terrible fears and stayed dry during the recruiting interview. Don't worry though....someone else will take care you and your family and keep you safe. It's ok.



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User currently offlinePope From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (9 years 3 months 1 day ago) and read 3548 times:

Quoting DLKAPA (Reply 1):
If you believe that the military drops bombs on innocent defenseless civilians just trying to make their own ways in life and shoots up women and children just for fun, then the military is probably not for you.



Quoting DLKAPA (Reply 1):
Conversely, if you believe that every bullet fired is fired to protect democracy, and that all war that the US starts is for that same purpose, then the military is probably the right path for you.

DLKAPA - when you grow up, you'll realize that nothing in life (other than your child's love) is absolute and clear cut - particularly nothing as complex as whether or not to join the military.

USAIR330 - there are pro's and con's to every decision in life. You're becoming a man and only you can decide what is best for you. However, be mindful that with decisions come consequences (good and bad). There are plenty of people who have found rewarding challenging careers serving in the armed forces around the world. There are also people who have joined and hated it.

The simple reality of life is that there are no guarantees. We all take risks every day. Though the death of anyone is a tragedy to their family, you must keep things in perspective. The US alone has over 40,000 deaths a year in automobile accidents. This is more than 20 times the number of soliders lost in the entirety of the Iraqi invasion.

Best of luck in your decision. May God bless you and protect you wherever you path takes you.


25 JGPH1A : Has anyone ever discovered what that purpose actually is ? Seems like a load of bollocks designed to make the sub-neanderthals in charge feel like th
26 Sprout5199 : Forget the Army, GO NAVY As others here have said, it is your choice. Get all the facts and opinions you can then make YOUR choice. I enjoyed the six
27 DL021 : Two things.... 1. The stress that is placed upon you in basic training is as close to combat as you will get with a person who is being thrust into a
28 Falcon84 : The military can open up doors for people, and it can be a great vehicle for learning a skill that can be used in civilian life, if you choose to leav
29 Post contains images JGPH1A : Actually it was the SAAF, and the drill instructors probably hadn't come any closer to combat than a bar brawl, but they were psycho fascists every o
30 Columba : This is an aviation forum -if you want to go to the military join the Air Force. Besides as an "Airman" your chances to be send to combat missions in
31 Sprout5199 : Boot Camp makes you realize that everything you do has a reason for doing it a certain way and if you dont people may die. The training you get also
32 JGPH1A : There's a difference between training you to do an actual, useful job, like fighting fires, and just making you do shit and brasso water pipes becaus
33 Planespotterx : Before joining the Army might I make a suggestion, rent either Black Hawk Down, Apocalypse Now or Full Metal Jacket and those films will help you deci
34 DL021 : I would bet that the Cubans (a) would have loved to do so, merely as a vent for their anger at being stationed in Angola in the first place and (b) w
35 Post contains images ANCFlyer : One other reason for all the "chicken shit" stuff in Basic Training . . .repetition. Once a skill is learned to a certain standard and metod of perfor
36 Post contains images Falcon84 : I'm going to teach you all to walk, talk, eat, shoot, shit, like United States Soldiers. Signed ANC, aka, Uncle Hulka
37 Daedaeg : If you're smart, Go Air Force!!!! At any rate, whatever you decided you will be admired and respected by Americans like myself. Despite what the insig
38 UAL747 : I find it interesting that while the "Americans" are holding a somewhat intelligent conversation regarding military service, an European chimes in wit
39 Captoveur : Falcon84 is also making ignorant statements about force before diplomacy and GWB being a bad guy in need of a spanking UAL747 I guess those 12 years w
40 NoUFO : No generalizations please while accusing others of being simplistic. Hardly anyone, Europeans included, takes Solnabo's rants seriously, and #12's st
41 Post contains images DL021 : I would lay serious money that there was more than one platoon that, at the end of training, called cadence to a well know commercial that everyone i
42 Post contains images ANCFlyer : There was a time we Drill Sergeant's were specifically prohibited from running our platoons within a 4 block radius of the Commanding General's quart
43 Post contains images Allstarflyer : Not to spite ANCFlyer or anyone else here in the Army (or even my own dad and his brothers, for that matter), but why does it have to be the Army? If
44 L-188 : Be careful about drawing conclusions from Hollywood. Most of their attitudes aren't in line with reality, particularly when you take a historical pie
45 Navymidn : I can only reiterate what ANCflyer and DL021 and such have said. Joining the military is a personal decision. I am currently only a NROTC student, but
46 Post contains images NumberTwelve : Lol, wellknown - great NoUFO, what do you think about a government who lied and killed more than 100,000 people ? If you think that's ok - well. So w
47 British767 : This is how I went by my decisions whether or not to go to university: Do you genuinly want to join the US Army, or is it just another option?
48 Sunking737 : Do what you want as far as going into the Army. I would go Air Force myself.
49 Clipperhawaii : Waste it? Please, you obviously don't know anything about the U.S. military and what it offers to those who serve. If you are comparing your own coun
50 GOCAPS16 : The first year you might have a rough start, like I did. I missed my family, friends, and such..but after awhile, you'll get used to it. You'll work w
51 ANCFlyer : Damn!!!! When I was an E2 (never was an E-1) it was $283. a month! Damng overpaid widgets! LOL Look up E-9 over 26 pay with BAS, BAH with Dep, AK Col
52 USAir330 : I appreciate that all you guys (and a lady) have given your opinion..... At this point I chose the Army because I want to go in and be an MP.... After
53 UAL747 : I think that you need to go to college as well. I'm not sure, but I think you can get scholarships for college through ROTC or something of that natur
54 NoUFO : Apparently, you didn't bother searching for my posts and opinions on the war on Iraq. I opposed to it and made clear that, in my opinion, the adminis
55 KyleLosAngeles : I am curious to know WHY you want to be a cop. What is it about that job that you will find fulfilling?
56 CORULEZ05 : I say a big, fat NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why are you even questioning it? With the way things are now in Iraq and well God knows what o
57 UAL747 : LOL, we will all have to enlist buddy! UAL
58 Post contains images DL021 : If you want to be a cop, then know that joining the Army seems to have helped in the process for many of my friends in that field. Police work is one
59 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Thank you CORULEZ05, that's the first - well, okay - maybe the third - smart thing you've said on this board . . . Seriously, I humbly accept your th
60 DL021 : Grits go well with bacon and sausage!
61 GOCAPS16 : They do in fact annually, about approx. 4% raise for base pay, BAS, and BAH. But not just for E-1 to E-6 but for enlisted, CWOs, commissioned officer
62 Post contains images USAir330 : + I read everyone's post. I didn't vote at all and I was actually hoping that Kerry would win. But the fact of the matter is that what Bush is doing
63 MD-90 : Buddy, as the leaked British memo proves, he's doing it because he wants to, not because it makes us safer. We're much less safe after riling up so m
64 NoUFO : USAir, WTF? My post was a reply to Number12, not you.
65 ANCFlyer : More spew from Lew Rockwells' world there MD-90? Provide something definitive, if you want to offer input, don't just babble the usual line of drivel
66 102IAHexpress : This is obviously a tough decision you must make on your own, and there are definitely some benefits and also some catches to joining the Army. But wh
67 L-188 : I think one of the big scandals is that in some cases soldiers with families in the E-1 to E-3 range can qualify for food stamps.
68 JGPH1A : OK let's not get completely carried away. Friendly fire incidents ? Pilots forced to take dexadrene amphetamines ? No branch of any armed service is
69 Post contains images ANCFlyer : JGPH1A is exactly right. Did I just say that? The basic question here is not who has or who is the best. And there are, and I have met, some soldiers
70 Post contains images JGPH1A : :P Everyone gets it eventually. Just takes some longer than others, it seems My uncle was a Lt.Col. in the SAS (amongst other things) and they are so
71 Delta767300ER : USAir330, Good luck in whatever you decide to do. Being a Police Officer is a great job. Everyday is different. Some days you will be swamped respondi
72 Post contains images Greyhound : hahahahahaha I think I just shad myself reading those. Look at all your options USAir330... I nearly went into the Army in '99. But I decided to back
73 Post contains images Clipperhawaii : Thank you for validating my thoughts on the matter. We are not talking specialized services here are we? We are just talking of joining the regular a
74 AirTran737 : I come from a military family. My Grandfather was in the Third Calvary "B" Troop in WWII a.k.a. Pattons Ghost. My father was an M.P. stationed in Germ
75 Post contains images DL021 : Which is as good and honest a reason as I have ever heard for becoming a police officer. Oh, yeah, we were safe before that with all the terrorists p
76 Post contains links Boeing7E7 : Army??? Hell no. Join the Air Force, have carpet, a semi-private room, better food and a guaranteed job before you leave for boot camp. Here are the A
77 Post contains images ANCFlyer : The Army does that now . . . gone soft . . . almost wusslike . . . you know, no real rank structure . . . first names . . . 8-4 job . . . hour for lu
78 Post contains images DL021 : Typical misinformation from the Air Farce. Tell all that crap to the Air Force mechanics and supply clerks who have been retrained to be machine gunn
79 Post contains images Boeing7E7 : Typical... "F'n Air Force" comments from the Army peanut gallery.
80 Aerobalance : Yes, I think you should join the Army.
81 ANCFlyer : Not necessarily, 7E7 . . . I have a great deal of respect for the Air Force and their mission. I was married to a C-130 pilot, and watched with inter
82 Post contains images DL021 : OK children......if we can't control a simple exchange of jocularities we're gonna pull this car over and the belts coming OFF! Now, shake hands and a
83 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Yup, , I said that, I said it takes Teamwork . . . all of us, we all have a mission.
84 Post contains images KaiGywer : This could be the recruiter I talked, and his personal opinion only, but he said civlian police departments don't like MPs. He said that service is g
85 Post contains links and images USAir330 : So far it's looking good..... Me and my recruiter have already gone to the gym and started basic Army PT. As for lights I like these.... Philadelphia
86 ANCFlyer : Do the sets, max out 3 out of 7 days a week. . . . rest the others, but exercise. Run, Run, Run, Run, Run . get that 2 miles down to under 11 minutes
87 KyleLosAngeles : KaiGywer, It's really interesting that you got totally defensive over a simple question. It seems that you are pretty touchy on this subject. I never
88 DL021 : Now, I could (back when I was in shape) make the 20 mile Longstreet Run, and I could walk 90 miles in 3 days with a 60lb ruck plus the 25lb LBE, 18lb
89 Boeing7E7 : Bullshit . . . Seen new barracks at Hood, Knox, Schoefield, Richardson, Stewart, Wainwright, Lewis, lately . . . just to name a few? Tell that to my b
90 Post contains images DL021 : Well, he's got us there...Lost in the Woods is no Club Med..of course, he ain't talking about the barracks I saw at Moody that one time. Face it...th
91 KaiGywer : Interested or not, here is my answer. By emphasizing WHY, rather than YOU in your original post, you are more talking as in "why would anyone be a co
92 Boeing7E7 : We all paddled the same boat and we ought to remember that arguing in front of the civilians makes us look bad.....lets keep it light and amusing. And
93 Columba : Don´t argue about whether the Army, Air Force or Navy is the way to go. As I was in the Army we had a little joke that summed it all up perfectly : I
94 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Ha Ha . . A story told to me by an Air Force Pilot once . . . because, as you've said, the Air Force does - granted - have more "delicate" accomodati
95 DL021 : THe Coasties are sitting in the lifeguard chair blowing their whistle at us screaming "No Running!!" Dude, I told you that joke!
96 Garnetpalmetto : Add Whiteman to that list. From what my mom and dad told me (Dad got out before I was born) Whiteman, at least in the days before the B-2s were based
97 CORULEZ05 : .....oh I'm sorry but I forgot to mention that there are SOME who regardless of their duty, don't deserve to be respected by me.......... I never sai
98 ANCFlyer : I don't want your respect, respect is earned Sonny Boy. In this case, I'll accept your thanks on behalf of veterans and military personnel protecting
99 L-188 : I to this day am still pissed off the Air Force weather detachment that lived in the same barracks that we did got extra pay for substandard housing.
100 DL021 : What you know about military life I could piss in a thimble. I congratulate you on the level of pettiness and short-sightedness achieved in this late
101 Boeing7E7 : I think CORULZ05 needs a trip to the woodshed. Sounds like he needs a good old ass kickin'.
102 Greyhound : Try the term "puddle pirates". I second that emotion.
103 ANCFlyer : I totally forgot about Panama . . . I hated that Jungle School - I hate bugs, and man, are there a lot of bugs out there . . . Have to remember Manta
104 Post contains images USAir330 : Yesterday I ran 4 miles straight. Never stopped or walked.... It was fun but I'm feeling it today LoL.... I never thought I could do that but it is mi
105 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Unless it's changed in the last 4 years since I retired, you'll be required to do the following for an APFT (Army Physical Fitness Test). Pushups: As
106 Propatriamori : Should you join the Army now? Maybe, maybe not. The key to making the right decision here is to balance what the Haters, Lifers, and Recruiters are sa
107 Bennett123 : UAL747 The US Army has only been widely deployed overseas post 1941, we had cutlery long before then, besides you do not need cutlery to eat a Quarter
108 Post contains images Keesje : I think it is important to know if you would support the foreigh policy of your country & if you do expect grateful crowds cheering on roadside.
109 Post contains images Goose : I probably laughed the hardest at this post, out of the entire thread. You realize that the reason the Air Force guys got the extra pay for substanda
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