ANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (8 years 6 hours ago) and read 1230 times:
I saw a blurb on CNN news earlier that Syria had terminated military and diplomatic ties with the US today.
I have never been a fan of the Syrian government, and believe that when the former leader, Haffez el Assad, passed on and his son came to power, the situation became worse.
That said, here's a source, there doesn't appear to be too much on the news on something I consider fairly important. Syria's assistance in the middle east is not necessary vital, but useful. I await your opinion and thoughts.
Aloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8357 posts, RR: 47 Reply 3, posted (8 years 6 hours ago) and read 1218 times:
Diplomatic ties as well? I heard they're not too happy about the allegations against them concerning support for terrorists and hence they ended military and intelligence cooperation. Which hopefully means no one captured by US forces will be taken to Syria for "interrogation" anymore.
Walk together, talk together all ye peoples of the earth. Then, and only then, shall ye have peace.
KFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3262 posts, RR: 33 Reply 4, posted (8 years 6 hours ago) and read 1199 times:
"We're not saying we will not do this anymore," Moustapha said. "We are saying that this is not happening today because of this state of affairs between us and the United States." He added, "We are trying to tell the United States we are willing to engage with you constructively. We want a good relationship with you, but you have to stop this unfair media campaign against Syria, because we think it is unfair and it is unconstructive."
It appears that Syria does not completely understand the ways of the US. The government does NOT control the media. The government CANNOT stop any form of US media from airing or publishing stories of its choosing (see First Amendment - Freedom of the Press). If Syria thinks the US gov't is controlling the media and can turn it on and off like a light switch, then they're going to be waiting a looooong time.
"About the only way to look at it, just a pity you are not POTUS KFLLCFII, seems as if we would all be better off."
NoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7796 posts, RR: 13 Reply 5, posted (8 years 6 hours ago) and read 1192 times:
It appears the Syrian government didn't take steps to stop attackers from crossing the border. The majority of captured terrorists indeed came from Syria, and we are talking about big numbers, here. April and May, some 70 attacks took place in Iraq - every day!
Quoting Aloges (Reply 3): Which hopefully means no one captured by US forces will be taken to Syria for "interrogation" anymore.
That's right. However, I have the feeling that IF the US plans to attack Syria one day, the administration will emphasise the atrocities that took place in Syria's prisons.
Unfortunately there are more despots that will probably be happy to give the US intelligence a hand in exchange for better relationships.
DfwRevolution From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 hours ago) and read 1124 times:
Quoting DC10GUY (Reply 9): I guess the big question for Dubya & Haliburton is ... How much oil do they have in Syria ????
Some... but not much. Small by Arab state and international standards.
Q- If Bush' motive was oil, ask yourself why we didn't invade a politically unstable Venezuela which would have been much easier to subjugate and inject their resources into our economy?
A- We aren't invading Iraq, Afganistan, or Iran, or Syria for oil. We're doing it for the fledgling hope of establishing a democracy that wouldn't be amiable to the radicalization in the Middle East.
Quoting Aloges (Reply 3): I heard they're not too happy about the allegations against them concerning support for terrorists and hence they ended military and intelligence cooperation.
Much more likely is the U.S. support for Lebanon after the assasination of former Prime Minister Al-Hariri, that appeared to be linked to Syria. That's was about as big of a diplomatic slap as one could deliver...
David b. From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3148 posts, RR: 6 Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 hours ago) and read 1107 times:
Thats what Bush has been for feeding us, so yes, that is what the American people were told. Since, WMDs could not be found, the warmongers have to change their stories.
ACAfan From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 709 posts, RR: 6 Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 hours ago) and read 1107 times:
Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 10): Q- If Bush' motive was oil, ask yourself why we didn't invade a politically unstable Venezuela which would have been much easier to subjugate and inject their resources into our economy?
I wouldnt be so sure of that. Venezuela is a perfect locale for a guerilla war. The nationalism is there. The drug money is there to fund the rebels. The peaceful demonstrator types in Caracas can march up and down the streets chanting "Yanqui go home!"
If the Americans were to occupy Venezuela, everyone pro-Chavez would join the resistance, and the anti-Chavez elite who would be put into power would be hated by the public as American puppets.
Saddam Hussein was hated by everyone. Iraq has no nationalism, no jungles, no drug money, no rebel spirit. Iraq is much easier to occupy than Venezuela would be.
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DL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11433 posts, RR: 81 Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 hours ago) and read 1102 times:
Quoting ANCFlyer (Thread starter): I saw a blurb on CNN news earlier that Syria had terminated military and diplomatic ties with the US today.
I think its just the cooperation in the war on terror, and its probably as much because of the recent ops near the Syrian border as it is the Lebanese issues.
Quoting ANCFlyer (Thread starter): Syria's assistance in the middle east is not necessary vital, but useful
Not terribly useful, and rather inconsistent. More show than substance.
ANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 hours ago) and read 1091 times:
What I saw was the text traffic at the bottom of the screen on CNN . . . it did specifically say military and diplomatic ties . . . however, that's not playing now, and there is nothing new to show.
I'm still convinced - even though Syria and Iraq have never been particularly friendly - they have played a larger role in the Iraq conflict than can be proven.
Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 10): Much more likely is the U.S. support for Lebanon after the assasination of former Prime Minister Al-Hariri, that appeared to be linked to Syria. That's was about as big of a diplomatic slap as one could deliver...
AR1300 From Argentina, joined Feb 2005, 1740 posts, RR: 3 Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 hours ago) and read 1071 times:
Quoting DLKAPA (Reply 1): BOMB THEM BOMB THEM BOMB THEM!!!
This is a threat to the very fabric of freedom and therefore must be destroyed
Dude.Take a chill.
I'm jewish,pro-Israel, and even that they are ''enemies'' to us, I don't want them to be bombed.That's not the best way to fix problems.That's the ultimate solution, not the primary one.Think that there are 17,000,000 people living there, and a lot of children that have no reason whatsoever to die for a regime that don't even know.
I've been in Israel, and saw what a Bomb does.Even here in Argentina we had that big Bomb in 1994 that killed 86 people, 4 blocks away from my house, and it threw me out if my bed and shattered all the windows in my house.That wasn't cool.
Never went to a place were you see limbs all over?.Well, I did.And again, it is not good, my friend.
Like I said, war is the ultimate way of solving problems.Not the primary one.
Mike
P.S: Talk to those mothers who lost their sons in irak or Afghanistan.
DC10GUY From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 2685 posts, RR: 7 Reply 18, posted (8 years 2 hours ago) and read 1061 times:
DFW dude, You really believe this don't you ...
Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 10): A- We aren't invading Iraq, Afganistan, or Iran, or Syria for oil. We're doing it for the fledgling hope of establishing a democracy that wouldn't be amiable to the radicalization in the Middle East.
Wake up dude...
Next time try the old "dirty Sanchez" She'll love it !!!
Captoveur From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 20, posted (8 years ago) and read 1037 times:
So another middle eastern state decided they wanted to take their ball and leave our playground. Yeah, I give a shit. Syria was such an ally before, what will we ever do without them?
So does this mean they will stop being a conduit of contraband into Iraq?
L-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29350 posts, RR: 62 Reply 21, posted (7 years 12 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1017 times:
Quoting ACAfan (Reply 2): didn't know there were ties!
Neither did I, I figured there where back door contacts but I didn't think we where actually on speaking terms since the 1980's.
Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 10): Much more likely is the U.S. support for Lebanon after the assasination of former Prime Minister Al-Hariri, that appeared to be linked to Syria. That's was about as big of a diplomatic slap as one could deliver...
I think we have a winner there.
OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
GQfluffy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 22, posted (7 years 12 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1006 times:
*Disclaimer* * Am very tired, don't give a sh*t at the moment...*
I'll say glass the middle east. Take care of all our problems. And the resulting fallout will handle the population control problems of SE Asia.
Ok, being more serious here, this really doesn't mean all that much to me. I could've swore we never had any kind of ties to Syria in the first place. Far as I'm concerned, I think we should have some very active patrols on their border with Iraq. Might help solve some insurgent problems...
Iakobos From Belgium, joined Aug 2003, 3304 posts, RR: 38 Reply 23, posted (7 years 12 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 985 times:
Quoting KFLLCFII (Reply 4): The government does NOT control the media.
Recent events again prove, ad nauseum, that the government can indeed control the media and the public opinion when it sees fit.
No need to dig deep in the archives.
NumberTwelve From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 1431 posts, RR: 10 Reply 24, posted (7 years 12 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 944 times:
Quoting DLKAPA (Reply 1): BOMB THEM BOMB THEM BOMB THEM!!!
Don't have enough from the stupid Iraq war? It's not Nintendo! You're talking about people's lives. So respect their lives as you do respect the lives of Americans.
Unbeleavable!
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25 KFLLCFII: Really? Can you cite a specific occurence when the US government CONTROLLED the media? Or is that just what you would like to believe?
26 Falcon84: It was sarcasm, #12, nothing else. Settle down, dude. LIke what? I haven't seen any "recent events" that prove the government controls the media. If
27 Scbriml: We're all just hoping you never rise to a position of power or influence.
28 HAWK21M: Reminds me of Pakistan There was never peace in the Middle East. regds MEL
29 MD11Engineer: Concerning DLKAPA´s past on this forum I suspect that he was highly sarcastic when he made the abovementioned post. Jan
30 FDXMECH: Yes, predominantly using a Windsor knot. A few bow ties and a smattering of extra wide 1970's style ties. And don't even mention the Penny loafers.
31 Boeing4ever: Unbelievable that you can't recognize sarcasm even if it bites you in your ass! B4e-Forever New Frontiers
32 Slider: Severed ties between Syria and the US? Stop the presses!!! Yawn.
33 FDXMECH: Sounds perilous. Will Syria float away
34 KLMA330: All Empires fall my friend, so becareful what you say now, for you may have to eat your words later.
35 Boeing4ever: Awesome! B4e-Forever New Frontiers
36 Boeing4ever: Hey Einstein, it's called a dictionary...look up "sarcasm". And if you keep reading, it turns out the Zebra did it. B4e-Forever New Frontiers
37 GQfluffy: You didn't read my disclaimer. And I guess you couldn't see the sarcasm ozzing out of your screen... fluffy
38 Greyhound: At least after Israel was established there wasn't. Gosh darn, and they were so strong to begin with..
39 LY744: Reply 38, wow, took you long enough. LY744.
40 Iakobos: Since it is off topic I will not elaborate, it might be worth a thread on its own. Let's say that your media single source of information in the cons
41 KFLLCFII: If you had payed attention (or currently do) to the US media, you would know that the LAST thing they would do is try to advance his agenda or popula
42 Iakobos: I watch US tv daily and the same goes for several US (web)printed sources. I stand by my opinion that in the run up from summer '02 to March '03 every
43 Greyhound: What got your panties in a bundle? I'm not picking any sides in that brawl... but you don't seem to hear to much about jihads, suicide bombings and w
44 CaptOveur: "I stand by my opinion that in the run up from summer '02 to March '03 every media outlet had the tiller to starboard." War is good for news sales. Th
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