NKP S2 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1714 posts, RR: 6 Reply 15, posted (12 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 410 times:
To put it bluntly: If you're from the US, and you've never been to NYC...you really have no idea what a "big city" is. -- with all the good or bad that accompanies the term. I've been to every major city in the US of over half a million people and nothing approaches the feeling of mass urbanity like NYC--and that's just Manhattan. Maybe Chicago comes close but it's just not the same...not that it has to be either. I HAVE been to London England and it too gave you that "sense" ( it's hard to describe ) of the fact that the the built-up urban area just seems to go on forever. Most US cities have a "smallish" downtown area with a ring of highly developed suburbs. I say "smallish downtown areas" in that most would fit in the small triangle below Canal st. ( Tribeca ) in Manhattan. I personally never have, nor would I want to live in an urban area, but enjoyed keeping NYC at arms length by living 50 miles north and coming down to "paint the town red", courtesy of the frequent commuter RR service. Would have stayed in northern Westchester county ( I loved that place ) except for the fact it got too damn expensive. So now I'm a northerer living down south and am puzzled at why these "new south" cities ( big suburbs ) try to be "big cities".
Surf From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 17, posted (12 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 394 times:
I do take exception to comments about the subway. If there was just ONE thing I could take back to L.A. with me it would be the subway system. Yeah, it can be crowded like hell during rush hour, but hey, one thing I DO love is not having to have or drive a car!!! That is one good thing about New York, you can just subway, walk or cab your way around Manhattan and go bar/club/lounge hopping easily. American cities need MORE mass tranist, not less...and the comment about infrequents service is just plaine WRONG. Only during the wee hours of the morning is service less; during normal hours, the different subway lines run constantly. Sure, sometimes they are delayed, and even I bitch, but then I have to remember that at least NYC HAS such an extensive and actully for the majority of the time, efficient public transportation system.
Surf From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 20, posted (12 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 386 times:
But the Washington Metro is not as extensive as the NYC MTA. I've been on the DC Metro, and it's okay, but it isn't as comprehensive.
The L.A. subway is very nice, very clean, better trains than the DC metro, but it's so small, not comprehensive in the least, it's really too bad, a victim of corruption and politics. You can go from downtown to the Mid-Wilshire district, and from downtown to Hollywood, and two stops into the valley. That's it. You still need a car to live in L.A., basically.
The NYC subway on the other hand takes you, well, EVERYWHERE. The borough that is the least served is Queens (or Staten Island really, but Staten Island is so isolated as it is). But all in all, you dont need a car here, and that is one of the great things.
Like I said, New York is a great place to visit, and having the experinece of living in NYC is a great experience to have, I think anyone who has it is all the better for it, I'm glad I came, I dont regret it in the least, but make this my home? No way! For me, personally, I like the weather and lifestyle of L.A. The Mountains, the beaches of Santa Monica....look I used to live on the beach and woke up everday looking at the ocean and Malibu. It's SO depressing to wake up on a bright beautiful sunny day in NYC and be in the middle of so much concrete and general ugliness. I started going to Central Park all the time because I was starved for nature. But you know what? As beautiful as Central Park is...that gets real stale...Anyway..dont get me wrong...NYC is a great place to hang out for awhile, I just would never live here permanently.