JGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 1, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 983 times:
I think the old definition of a city, in England certainly, was the presence of a Cathedral, but I think Parliament can give a town "city" status if they want (they did one for the Millenium I think, but I can't remember which city is was).
Banco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 61 Reply 2, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 979 times:
Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 1): (they did one for the Millenium I think, but I can't remember which city is was).
There were a couple. Brighton was one, and that certainly doesn't have a cathedral unless you count the gatherings to Fat Boy Slim's free concerts on the sea front.
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Trekster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 3, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 969 times:
As above, a TRADITIONAL city in the United Kingdom has to have a Cathedral
This is the Cathedral in the city I was born in, Lincoln
This will soon be famous over the world as the setting of Darren Browns DA VINCE CODE. The dean is getting £100,000 for the film crew to film there which will boost the restoration fund for this mighty structure.
There using as a shot for something in London, cant recall what though.
Braybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 4354 posts, RR: 44 Reply 4, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 944 times:
In Britain a city is a large town which has received the title from the Crown; it is usually the seat of a Bishop. In the US it is an incorporated urban centre with its own government and administration established by state charter. In Canada it's a similar urban municipality incorporated by the provinical government. So the definition of "city" varies form country to country.
Oldeuropean From Germany, joined May 2005, 1265 posts, RR: 3 Reply 5, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks ago) and read 932 times:
Cologne is a city since 50 A.D:
The name Cologne stems from the Roman empress Agrippina. The wife of the Emperor Claudius was born on the banks of the Rhine and elevated her "Colonia" to the status of a city in the year 50 A.D.
But the first cathedral was built about 800 A.D. and the foundation stone of our current cathedral was laid later on the 15th August 1248.
FlyingNanook From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 830 posts, RR: 19 Reply 6, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 888 times:
Quoting Oldeuropean (Thread starter): So, is e.g. Los Angeles a city? (If it has no cathedral, which I presume
Los Angeles most certainly does have a cathedral and has had one since 1876, it is an archdiocese of the Catholic Church . It's called the Cathedral of Our Lady of the Angels and was built in 2002, replacing the original one, which was condemned. Here's a pic:
I don't like it much from the outside, but it is a cathedral.
Willo From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 1352 posts, RR: 18 Reply 9, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 844 times:
Quoting Banco (Reply 2): There were a couple. Brighton was one
Preston was the other one. Neither has a cathedral.
Quote: An Englishman told me that historically the difference between the meanings of the words "city" and "town" is:
A "city" has a cathedral a "town" hasn`t.
That may have have been the case in the dim and distant past, but I can think of at least four place in the England that have a Church of England cathedral that are not cities: Southwell, Bury St Edmonds, Blackburn and Guildford.
Southwell was an early church that was rebuilt by the Normans. It has had cathedral status since that time. Bury St Edmonds became a cathedral in 1914, the church dates back to the 13th century. Guildford was built over a forty year period staring in the 1930's. It was consecrated in 1961. Blackburn is another parish church that was upgraded to cathedral status, this time in 1926.
How do I know all this? I did English cathedrals as a project for my Geography CSE back in 1970. I knew it would come in useful one day
Dazultra From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 689 posts, RR: 54 Reply 10, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 840 times:
Hey Axel that cathedral in Cologne is well cool - ive been up one of the spires, can get some awsome views from the top Koln Dom its called i think?? or am I thinking of something else lol
LTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 9542 posts, RR: 7 Reply 12, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 810 times:
In some USA states, there are a number of categories of incorporated municipal governments, including villages, towns, boroughs (also the term for incorporated counties in Alaska), and cities. As defined in a given state's laws, each category can determine the types, sizes, duties, structures of each government and range of authorities of their courts. Current population often is but not the only way to determine the category of municipality one is as it may been the term applied at the time of their incorporation. The existance of a 'catherdal' is not a factor although churches were a major starting point of a number of municipalities (especially in Califronia with the original spanish mission church system spaced about a days travel apart by foot or horse and includes several major cities today).
Oldeuropean From Germany, joined May 2005, 1265 posts, RR: 3 Reply 13, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 805 times:
Quoting Dazultra (Reply 10): Koln Dom its called i think?? or am I thinking of something else lol
It`s called "Koelner Dom". ("oe" is in German an "o" with 2 points above)
Koeln is the German name for Cologne. Perhaps, it sounds strange for people who knows it as "Cologne".
By the romans, the city was called "Colonia Claudia Ara Agrippinensium", short "CCAA". Because of the lenght of the name it became later (Sancta) Colonia, which became later "Coeln", and later than "Koeln"
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Koln Dom its called i think?? or am I thinking of something else lol
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