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Uncle Sam Buys Minivans To Replace Army Humvees  
User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9644 posts, RR: 68
Posted (9 years 5 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3026 times:
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The U.S. Armed Forces have ordered 19,000 minivans and 5,000 Pacificas from the Chrysler Group for use as light-duty vehicles in Iraq and elsewhere around the world, displacing less fuel-efficient Humvees, according to the Windsor Star.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Articles/articleId=105726

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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39906 posts, RR: 75
Reply 1, posted (9 years 5 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3020 times:

The minivans — all gold-colored — will be built at Chrysler's St. Louis, Missouri,

YIKES!
That's whare my old Chrysler LeBaron convertible was made and that car was a lemon!



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineTriStarEnvy From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2265 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (9 years 5 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3016 times:

Where the hell is the Urban Assault vehicle, from "Stripes"?!?!?!?!?


If you don't stand for SOMETHING, you'll fall for ANYTHING.
User currently offlineAlberchico From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 2925 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 5 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3014 times:

So I guess that under fire they will be totally useless...........

What a bunch of jackasses


Iraq is not the only place in the world where armored Humvees are needed



short summary of every jewish holiday: they tried to kill us ,we won , lets eat !
User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 33
Reply 4, posted (9 years 5 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3004 times:

Quoting TriStarEnvy (Reply 2):
Where the hell is the Urban Assault vehicle, from "Stripes"?!?!?!?!?

Or as the comedian Gallagher would call them..........ICBMW's, or InterContinental Ballistic Missile Winnebago's.  wink 

Tom atMSY



"The criminal ineptitude makes you furious"-Bruce Springsteen, after seeing firsthand the damage from Hurricane Katrina
User currently offlineGreyhound From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1026 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (9 years 5 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3000 times:

Not to call the article itself or anyone in here a lier, but where do they get the information? Is there a Pentagon press release corroborating this article? Seems like something of this magnitude would have been all over the U.S. mainstream media by now. I'm skeptic until I see some more proof. Sorry, clickhappy, nothing personal. But the article didn't reference any sources.

To quote the article... "a plant source"... Who, the company janitorial squad? And how many times has a story involving billions of taxpayer dollars in the U.S., dealing with the armed forces specifically, originated in Windsor, Canada?



29th, Let's Go!
User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13140 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (9 years 5 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2970 times:

These will probably be to replace Humvees in non-hostile areas and bases like in Germany, the US, Asia - not in Iraq/Afganistan. That will free up those Humvees (after an upgraded as to armor) and be sent into 'battle areas'. In the Iraq/Afgan areas of ops, they are wearing out the Humvees quickly and many are victims of accidents and terror/insurgant attacks, so they need to be replaced with other available Humvees. So why not send ones that really only are used on bases on paved roads, etc and replace them with civillian vehicles.

User currently offlineSATL382G From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 5 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2964 times:

Quoting Clickhappy (Thread starter):
The U.S. Armed Forces have ordered 19,000 minivans and 5,000 Pacificas from the Chrysler Group for use as light-duty vehicles in Iraq and elsewhere around the world, displacing less fuel-efficient Humvees, according to the Windsor Star.

Not exactly a new concept. DoD buys commercial vehicles every year. Big deal....


User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 5 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2962 times:

Quoting SATL382G (Reply 7):
Not exactly a new concept. DoD buys commercial vehicles every year. Big deal....

And most of them Chrysler/Dodge vehicles, which if memory serves me right, was part of the deal to bail out Chrysler way back when.

[Edited 2005-05-25 21:39:39]

User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 984 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (9 years 5 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2953 times:

Quoting Alberchico (Reply 3):
So I guess that under fire they will be totally useless...........

But hey... they've got cupholders for everyone  Wink

Quoting Superfly (Reply 1):
The minivans — all gold-colored — will be built at Chrysler's St. Louis, Missouri,

I guess they got some camoflauge going  Wink

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 6):
These will probably be to replace Humvees in non-hostile areas and bases like in Germany, the US, Asia - not in Iraq/Afganistan

The article does give mention to use in Iraq. I don't think it's a horrible idea, it allows the armored Hummers to go where armored Hummers are needed, and probably at a much more cost/time effective than waiting for additional HUMVV.

Besides, the way some Soccer Mom's manuever those things, I'm perfectly convinced they are suitable for urban combat. I don't get why they went Chrysler though... there are much better/more reliable platforms on the market, the Chyrsler platform no longer has AWD, and I don't see Stow-And-Go being that great of a trade-off  Wink


User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 5 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2949 times:

Now you, the american soldier, can feel like a soccer mom!

User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 5 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2949 times:

Quoting SATL382G (Reply 7):
Not exactly a new concept. DoD buys commercial vehicles every year. Big deal....

 yes 

This really isn't news . . . there's a motorpool full of Chrysler products at Ft. Richardson and Elmendorf . . .


User currently offlineTPASXM787 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1730 posts, RR: 19
Reply 12, posted (9 years 5 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2936 times:



http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y165/gobolts07/Stripes_682.jpg

Although a bit off topic...

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y165/gobolts07/Stripes_703.jpg



This is the Last Stop.
User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 33
Reply 13, posted (9 years 5 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2913 times:

TPA:
Thanks for the Sean Young flashback.

Still off topic, but Bill Murray's comment to Sean Young when they popped out of the foot locker after doing the 'little nasty' was priceless....."Well, that was interesting."

Tom at MSY



"The criminal ineptitude makes you furious"-Bruce Springsteen, after seeing firsthand the damage from Hurricane Katrina
User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 5 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2901 times:

Filmed at Ft. Knox ya know . . . . the "Border" was in fact at the extreme north edge of Ft. Knox, on what used to be US Highway 31W. Rerouted many years ago, this area of Ft. Knox remained. It's generally down hill form main-post to this location and about 12 miles from the Flag Pole. Back in the day, when I was a Drill Sergeant there, we did our Forced March from the main post to this location - under the railroad bridge* - and back to main post.

The 'Russian' compound is the old Central Heat and Power Plant at Knox.

*Railroad bridge is still there, it was the ICG main line from Louisville to Paducah when I was there, don't know who uses it now. I know I've been on top of it - in a jeep - and wasn't happy - but that was a long time ago.


User currently offlineFlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 14
Reply 15, posted (9 years 5 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2895 times:

Why not just bring back your basic military Jeep? Chrysler owns the Jeep brand now, which was once known as the GP vehicle, made by Bantam, Willy & Ford. Keep it simple, Uncle Sam...bring back the jeep for your basic transportation needs in the rear (non-hostile) area.  Wink Regards.


"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." --Ben Franklin
User currently offlineSacflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 371 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (9 years 5 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2892 times:

Quoting DLKAPA (Reply 10):
Now you, the american soldier, can feel like a soccer mom!

It must be a new recruiting ploy. Could you imagine what would happen if we released a battalion of soccer moms on Iraq? Have you seen the warzone that is an elementary school parking lot at the beginning and end of school?

This war would be over in a heart beat.



I'm just happy that RR ratings can't be in negative numbers!
User currently offlineCaptOveur From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 5 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2890 times:

The Iraqi insurgency would be defeated within a week.. All runover by airheaded soccer moms on cell phones.

User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8459 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (9 years 5 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2840 times:



User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8508 posts, RR: 12
Reply 19, posted (9 years 5 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2816 times:

They'll probably be used like Mississippi State uses its minivans. We have a bunch of Windstars and Grand Caravans (along with lots of trucks), and you see them around the campus a lot, usually taking prospective students on tours.

Makes sense to me. Chrysler did some quite intelligent engineering on our 97 GC.


User currently offlineASMD80 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 126 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (9 years 5 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2795 times:

Like this?




Even better than minivans... rotfl 



Some things are actually better at 30,000+ feet...
User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (9 years 5 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2791 times:

Bill Murray, John Larroquette and the entire cast of "Stripes" must be laughing their asses off right about now.  Big grin

User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (9 years 5 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2789 times:

ASMD80 . . . nothing beats "THAT" Crysler product . . . which is the M1A2 by the by . . . please note the second thermal site . . . and the large 120mm cannon . . . and it's even air conditioned!

1/3 mile to the gallon . . . ***







*** individual mileage may vary.

Signed:

Uncle Hulka  biggrin 


User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (9 years 5 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2783 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 22):
Signed:

Uncle Hulka

You catch on fast, dude! Hahaha!

"All right, hotshot, let's see what kind of soldier you are!"


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (9 years 5 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2772 times:

My favorite line . . . and there were a lot . . . John Candy: "How ya doin' Eisenhower, is this the Mess Hall?". . . . .

Filmed in front of the reception center processing station, I have been in that building, in the same barber shop across the street, and in the same uniform issue facility . .

There is a soldier - scratch that - a pinhead recruit - in that underwear issue line named Andy McGrady. He worked for me in Germany in the early 1980s.


25 Falcon84 : No, no no. The best line in the movie? "Oh, I wish I was a loofah". Too damn funny!!
26 LY744 : That's because we build those minivans around here. That means we have an assembly plant. That's a big building with an assembly line, a bunch of wor
27 SATL382G : Got news for ya. Your basic military jeep would cost more than a F150. hard to beat the price you get with commercial volumes. Related item: About 10
28 L-188 : Like I said, not a big deal, commerical vehicles actually meet DOT specs. something that military trucks don't. When I was in it was a hell of a lot
29 MD11Engineer : I don´t know much about the mentality of USAF personel, but in the German Civil Defense, we "customised" every truck we received, e.g. by adding rad
30 Clickhappy : I swallow a lot of aggression Along with a lot of pizzas.
31 Garnetpalmetto : Well, I don't know about you guys but I've always been kind of a pacifist. When I was a kid, my father told me, "Never hit anyone in anger, unless you
32 TriStarEnvy : "Lee Harvey....I wanna party with you!!!"
33 Greyhound : Okay junior.... No foolin, that's what one of them thar assembly plants are? Gosh darn... I'll run back and tell the folks back home. But if respondi
34 TPASXM787 : "I think that this run should be cancelled until this platoon is better rested." "How about 10 miles?" "Way to go asshole!" "You're making friends fas
35 L-188 : A lot of agencies did that here too, The USFS painted their trucks in the most godawful shade of lime green. Most of the local departments have gotte
36 SATL382G : Must be missing some replies then because this is your first one in this thread. Chill!
37 L-188 : Sorry, going back to work has made me a bit jumpy.
38 N1120A : Total agreement, she was quite hot. Who was the one who played Harold Rammis' girlfriend? She was not so bad herself
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