Clickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9823 posts, RR: 64 Posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4371 times:
The U.S. Armed Forces have ordered 19,000 minivans and 5,000 Pacificas from the Chrysler Group for use as light-duty vehicles in Iraq and elsewhere around the world, displacing less fuel-efficient Humvees, according to the Windsor Star.
Greyhound From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1026 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4345 times:
Not to call the article itself or anyone in here a lier, but where do they get the information? Is there a Pentagon press release corroborating this article? Seems like something of this magnitude would have been all over the U.S. mainstream media by now. I'm skeptic until I see some more proof. Sorry, clickhappy, nothing personal. But the article didn't reference any sources.
To quote the article... "a plant source"... Who, the company janitorial squad? And how many times has a story involving billions of taxpayer dollars in the U.S., dealing with the armed forces specifically, originated in Windsor, Canada?
LTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13841 posts, RR: 17
Reply 6, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4315 times:
These will probably be to replace Humvees in non-hostile areas and bases like in Germany, the US, Asia - not in Iraq/Afganistan. That will free up those Humvees (after an upgraded as to armor) and be sent into 'battle areas'. In the Iraq/Afgan areas of ops, they are wearing out the Humvees quickly and many are victims of accidents and terror/insurgant attacks, so they need to be replaced with other available Humvees. So why not send ones that really only are used on bases on paved roads, etc and replace them with civillian vehicles.
SATL382G From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4309 times:
Quoting Clickhappy (Thread starter): The U.S. Armed Forces have ordered 19,000 minivans and 5,000 Pacificas from the Chrysler Group for use as light-duty vehicles in Iraq and elsewhere around the world, displacing less fuel-efficient Humvees, according to the Windsor Star.
Not exactly a new concept. DoD buys commercial vehicles every year. Big deal....
DfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 1205 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4298 times:
Quoting Alberchico (Reply 3): So I guess that under fire they will be totally useless...........
But hey... they've got cupholders for everyone
Quoting Superfly (Reply 1): The minivans β all gold-colored β will be built at Chrysler's St. Louis, Missouri,
I guess they got some camoflauge going
Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 6): These will probably be to replace Humvees in non-hostile areas and bases like in Germany, the US, Asia - not in Iraq/Afganistan
The article does give mention to use in Iraq. I don't think it's a horrible idea, it allows the armored Hummers to go where armored Hummers are needed, and probably at a much more cost/time effective than waiting for additional HUMVV.
Besides, the way some Soccer Mom's manuever those things, I'm perfectly convinced they are suitable for urban combat. I don't get why they went Chrysler though... there are much better/more reliable platforms on the market, the Chyrsler platform no longer has AWD, and I don't see Stow-And-Go being that great of a trade-off
ANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4246 times:
Filmed at Ft. Knox ya know . . . . the "Border" was in fact at the extreme north edge of Ft. Knox, on what used to be US Highway 31W. Rerouted many years ago, this area of Ft. Knox remained. It's generally down hill form main-post to this location and about 12 miles from the Flag Pole. Back in the day, when I was a Drill Sergeant there, we did our Forced March from the main post to this location - under the railroad bridge* - and back to main post.
The 'Russian' compound is the old Central Heat and Power Plant at Knox.
*Railroad bridge is still there, it was the ICG main line from Louisville to Paducah when I was there, don't know who uses it now. I know I've been on top of it - in a jeep - and wasn't happy - but that was a long time ago.
FlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 13
Reply 15, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4240 times:
Why not just bring back your basic military Jeep? Chrysler owns the Jeep brand now, which was once known as the GP vehicle, made by Bantam, Willy & Ford. Keep it simple, Uncle Sam...bring back the jeep for your basic transportation needs in the rear (non-hostile) area. Regards.
"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." --Ben Franklin
Sacflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 371 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4237 times:
Quoting DLKAPA (Reply 10): Now you, the american soldier, can feel like a soccer mom!
It must be a new recruiting ploy. Could you imagine what would happen if we released a battalion of soccer moms on Iraq? Have you seen the warzone that is an elementary school parking lot at the beginning and end of school?
This war would be over in a heart beat.
I'm just happy that RR ratings can't be in negative numbers!
MD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8530 posts, RR: 11
Reply 19, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4161 times:
They'll probably be used like Mississippi State uses its minivans. We have a bunch of Windstars and Grand Caravans (along with lots of trucks), and you see them around the campus a lot, usually taking prospective students on tours.
Makes sense to me. Chrysler did some quite intelligent engineering on our 97 GC.