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US Drivers Learn This Word: 'courtesy'  
User currently offlineBristolFlyer From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 2290 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 1438 times:

Well I've been in the States for a while now and it surprises me how discourteous drivers are in the US compared to the UK, especially as they're such a friendly bunch generally.

There's very little of letting people out of side roads, even if the car on the main road is about to stop anyway for traffic ahead. Freeways are the same - nobody lets anybody in adjacent lanes in to theirs if it requires a bit of acceleration or braking to make a gap.

In the UK people will always flash you to let you out of side roads or let you into their lane, especially if you have a trailer. I'm often towing a trailer on busy freeways in Phoenix and nobody cares about your predicament when trying to change lanes. When a truck (or trailer-towing vehicle) is overtaking another in the UK the vehicle being overtaken will flash his lights to let the overtaker know that he is clear and can pull back into that lane. Absolutley no chance would that happen in Arizona!

Anyone else done a lot of driving in the US and the UK and noticed the difference?

BF


Fortune favours the brave
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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 1432 times:

Wishful thinking.

Other than France and Italy the most obnoxious drivers I've ever seen are right here in the USA - and I can't decide whether the DC area or Anchorage has the worst.

Pet Peeve: When I'm merging ON to a freeway, why doesn't that asshole in the right lane move to one of the other TWO lanes that have no traffic so I can merge easily. . . .

Pet Peeve: If you know you have to make a left turn three blocks up and you're in the far right lane on Northern Lights Blvd, get the fuck over to the left BEFORE you get to the turn, dumbass. Oh . . . and use a signal either way.

Of course, all drivers become instantly courteous and law abiding - provided I'm in my cruiser and not my truck . . . . funny how that happens.


User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 53
Reply 2, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 1428 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 1):
Of course, all drivers become instantly courteous and law abiding - provided I'm in my cruiser and not my truck . . . . funny how that happens.

I love that effect...everyone sees a cop and traffic slows down to stay behind him...

Greg



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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13088 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 1426 times:

I have driven close to 10000 miles in the UK over several trips, from Dover to Iverness, Wales to Norfolk. One big difference in the UK is the better 'lane disipline' on the motorways. The slow lane is for around the speed limit or under it, trucks, caravans, slow vehicles, slower drivers. The middle lane is for the speed limit and slightly above, passing slow lane vehicles. The fast name is not for trucks and mainly for either passing or going as fast as the cops or lack of them will let you. In the USA, our interstates have little of that disipline. Also, our drivers tend to be a bunch of amatures who tend to drive distracted on the cell (mobile) phones, put on makeup, drink coffee, eat, look at maps, all illegal in the UK per their distracted driving rules. You are also more likely to have difficulty in the USA keeping a safe distance from the vehicle in front of you, as someone behind you is cramming your real bumper, flashing lights trying to get one second in front of you.

User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 1423 times:

Quoting USAFHummer (Reply 2):
everyone sees a cop and traffic slows down to stay behind him...

I love that "Yes Sir" effect also . . . stop some asshole and it's all "Yes Sir, No Sir" until I drive off . . . then it's WT@_(UI$O)UHF@(&!@&$(&(@!GHDFIH*U@!. Ha Ha Ha.

Ever hear that joke . . . .

Cop pulls a guy over, guy gets to being a smart ass, cop pops him in the chops with his flashlight, tells him to be more respectful . . . before he lets the guy go cop goes around to the pax side of the vehicle, smacks the shit out of the passenger with the flashlight too. When asked," why did you do that, I didn't say a word". Cop replies,"because 5 miles down the road you'd have said, If that SOB would have hit ME in the mouth . . . "   

[Edited 2005-05-27 04:34:01]

User currently offlineUsairwys757 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 1415 times:

ANCFlyer, just to let you know. I LOATHED cops when I was in high school.

The only time I like you guys now is when I need you for something.

- Edit, I do have respect for what you do though.

[Edited 2005-05-27 04:29:28]

User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 1402 times:

Quoting Usairwys757 (Reply 5):
ANCFlyer, just to let you know. I LOATHED cops when I was in high school.

The only time I like you guys now is when I need you for something.

 laughing  Don't sweat it, you're not alone, and you're in good company . . . I won't hold it against you . . .

Were you a naughty little 737 in High School . . .  biggrin 


User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12242 posts, RR: 35
Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 1384 times:
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Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 1):
Of course, all drivers become instantly courteous and law abiding - provided I'm in my cruiser and not my truck . . . . funny how that happens.

Oh yeah, the well known case of black-and-white-fever  Wink I like how on four way stops, people will sit there until the cop goes, even though they clearly had the rightaway. They will yield to you anywhere you go...except when you're going code, then all of a sudden they can't see you...

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 4):
I love that "Yes Sir" effect also . . . stop some asshole and it's all "Yes Sir, No Sir" until I drive off . . . then it's WT@_(UI$O)UHF@(&!@&$(&(@!GHDFIH*U@!. Ha Ha Ha.

Yup. Its kinda funny how if you have two kids standing there. One being extremely (as in way more than normal) polite, and the other being a cocky smartass. Which one is more likely to cause trouble later that night? The "nice" one, because he knows how to work the system and fool cops.

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 4):
Ever hear that joke . . . .

Yup.



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User currently offlineJBLUA320 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3179 posts, RR: 19
Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 1366 times:
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Was driving today... I was doing 50 in a 40, and I guess that wasn't good enough so the guy passed me in a no-passing lane, sped up... and I caught up with him at the next traffic light. Really got him to his destination that much faster...

JBLU


User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 1359 times:

I try to be a curteous and cautios driver.... But Going from DEN to ABQ in 5 hours (With a stop on the way) was kinda fun Big grin

User currently offlineMdsh00 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4124 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 1349 times:

I don't even want to start with all the asshole drivers in West LA. But one thing I have to say about bad driving. If anyone deserves the title for reckless driving, it should be drivers in the Persian Gulf counties. That month I spent in Dubai, WOW. I have never seen so much highway crossing, insane speeding, etc. I hear reckless driving is a major problem in that region.


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User currently offlineSccutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 5509 posts, RR: 28
Reply 11, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 1344 times:

In driving, courtesy accompanies skill and competence. Dream on.

We license drivers as a reward for being able to fog a mirror, and driving is now regarded as a right, rather than a regulated privilege.

The ability to watch from above and smirk as I blast by is reason enough to justify flying...



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User currently offlineLHMARK From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 7255 posts, RR: 46
Reply 12, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 1322 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 1):

Of course, all drivers become instantly courteous and law abiding - provided I'm in my cruiser and not my truck . . . . funny how that happens.

I've always figured that one of the most annoying things about being a cop would be everybody in front of you driving exactly at the posted speed limit.



"Sympathy is something that shouldn't be bestowed on the Yankees. Apparently it angers them." - Bob Feller
User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 1317 times:

Quoting LHMARK (Reply 12):
I've always figured that one of the most annoying things about being a cop would be everybody in front of you driving exactly at the posted speed limit.

Yup, I do hate that . . . I generally drive with traffic if I'm in my truck . . . 3-8 over in the cruiser . . . and it's hilarious . . . some folks will pass me . . . but it takes them 5 miles to do it . . . going 1-2 mph more than I . . . I don't even look over . . . .


User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 1311 times:

My sister is a sheriff's deputy, kinda. I once blew by one of her colleagues while he was set up in a speed trap doing 75 in a 55. I was like  wave  and he was like  no  but he didn't even pull me over!  bigthumbsup 

User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 1306 times:

He told you sister though, and you were busted anyway . . . somehow worse huh.  biggrin 

User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week ago) and read 1301 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 15):
He told you sister though, and you were busted anyway . . . somehow worse huh.

No he didn't Big grin


User currently offlineAerobalance From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 4681 posts, RR: 47
Reply 17, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week ago) and read 1291 times:

I'm courteous on the streets, however, on the racetrack I'm pure Hell.........I should fit right in this June in France.....


"Sing a song, play guitar, make it snappy..."
User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week ago) and read 1290 times:

Quoting Aerobalance (Reply 17):
I should fit right in this June in France.....

I'm going to guess you'll be watching to Indy this weekend?

I hope little Ms. Patrick wins . . .


User currently offlinePacificjourney From New Zealand, joined Jul 2001, 2732 posts, RR: 8
Reply 19, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week ago) and read 1286 times:

Bristol you must be insane.

US drivers are by far the most polite anywhere. When you go back to the UK look again please, now there are some mad drivers !



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User currently offlineAerobalance From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 4681 posts, RR: 47
Reply 20, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week ago) and read 1281 times:

I'm going to guess you'll be watching to Indy this weekend?

I hope little Ms. Patrick wins . .









Yes - Indy, Nurburgring F1, and Charlotte......It's gonna be good! I'm cheering for Kenny Brack to slice through the field and take Victory!



"Sing a song, play guitar, make it snappy..."
User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week ago) and read 1275 times:

Having vast inexperience driving in other countries, I can't rate the US compared to others, but I can say that we certainly have our fair share of assjacks on the roads here.

In addition to ANC's pet peeves, here's a view more that I share:

Pet Peeve: If you know you are going to make a turn up ahead, be it right or left, and a nice long turn lane is provided for your sake, USE IT! Don't make me slow down because I'm behind you and you want to ease your way into the turn at the last second without using the freaking turn lane, asshole. And use your signal too, prick.

Pet Peeve: Stop reading, stop chatting, stop doing your makeup, and drive your damn car. How hard of a concept is that to grasp? Quick calls that SERVE A PURPOSE are no problem while driving. And use a hands-free device for your phone, it's a lot safer.

Pet Peeve: If I'm on a 4-lane or more highway, and I pass you in the passing lane, don't speed up. You don't have to be insulted that you're getting passed. Others will drive faster than you no matter what. Maintain your speed, set your cruise, moron.

Pet Peeve: This applies mainly to one group: I DO NOT want to see your last name in a stupid font in your rear window. Just what in the hell does putting it there accomplish? Are you proud that your last name is Gonzales? Well good for you, but keep it to yourself, because nobody else cares.




-NWA742

[Edited 2005-05-27 08:23:19]

User currently offlineCaptOveur From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week ago) and read 1269 times:

Your last pet peeve almost totally gave away the fact you live in south Texas.

I have no idea why they do that. Then again I guess if someone named Gonzales cuts you off in traffic you will have a hell of a time hunting them down to kill them.

I also wish people wouldn't tint the hell out of their windows. I almost had a wreck in the parking lot the other day because I couldn't tell there was anyone in a pickup in the parking lot. Someone sitting in the left seat is one of those clues I have that indicates you might be ready to move.

What the hell is it about Yield signs that makes them totally invisible? Something about South Texas has made yield signs totally useless. I have turned into an asshole though and I honk like hell if someone blows through one and I have to manuver or brake to avoid them.

South Texas has made me into a complete asshole on the road now, when I go up north I have all my nasty aggressive driving habits.. and worst of all I am programmed for the Texas 70mph unenforced limit when Ohio is 65 and strictly enforced.

Lane discipline does drive me nuts. I keep right pretty much all the time and I cannot think of any reason some moron needs to go 5 under in the left lane. Or when some clown can't move over so faster traffic can pass.. Things that make me go RHAAAAAAA


User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (9 years 3 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1262 times:

Quoting CaptOveur (Reply 22):
I am programmed for the Texas 70mph unenforced limit when Ohio is 65 and strictly enforced.

I wouldn't be calling it unenforced anymore. Usually I've been able to get away cruising at 75-80 going through TX, but not recently.

Texas DPS has been much more strict lately it seems. I got a ticket a month ago for 78 in a 70. Wondering why they bothered with that one, whenever they have plently of cars going 85-90 to pick on.

A week ago, at 4:30am, driving through a ghost-county on my way out of state, I got lit up by another DPS going no more than 68,89 in the 65 night zone. He gave me warning for speeding 4 or so over.

What puzzles me is the risk that that DPS officer took pulling me over, just for a warning for slightly speeding in a night zone. I mean, pulling over a car in the middle of the night, on an empty highway, not being able to see much inside the car, is a lot of risk to take just for a warning Mr. DPS.





-NWA742


User currently offlineCaptOveur From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (9 years 3 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1260 times:

Last weekend I drove to Lubbock and never saw a single trooper, just one Sheriff out in the middle of nowhere.

This weekend I will be driving my girlfriend to see her parents, we will be going down I-37... There will be troopers there, They love to bag the Mexicans heading to or from the border on 35,37 and 281. I have really never seen a trooper north of Austin or between SAT and AUS for that matter.. It seems on the deserted stretches of road they seem to stay away and let us run however fast we want.


25 NWA742 : You do have a point. On my way back into the state, I drove the I27 stretch from Amarillo to Lubbock and did not see a single cop. To think I could'v
26 Post contains images Skidmarks : I have to say, my experiences in the states are a bit different. I've always found drivers willing to give way at freeway junctions, let you in when o
27 Paulc : Agree with driving in Dubai - its is bad enough as a passenger but Moscow is also an interesting place to be driven especially in a coach as you are m
28 Scbriml : The driving in Dubai is quite polite compared with Qatar - the locals drive like maniacs (and invariably in a Toyota Landcruiser, so no arguing with
29 57AZ : "I'm often towing a trailer on busy freeways in Phoenix and nobody cares about your predicament when trying to change lanes. When a truck (or trailer-
30 Tbar220 : Well that's great if its a hot chick driving the vehicle...
31 Post contains images Oldeuropean : Come to the German Autobahn. But perhaps it`s a little bit to strange for snails. (In 1987 I have been in the US, driving throug California, New Mexi
32 Kay : That's what absolutely struck me the first time I drove in Germany. It actually starts miles from the border, well within Austrian territory, drivers
33 Post contains images AgentM : When I drove in the UK I was really surprised at how much nicer drivers were than in the US. I even stalled out in Manchester and didn't get any horns
34 SLC1 : Pet Peeve : People driving at exactly 64 miles an hour on the freeway around a cop whose car is clearly labeled as a local cop from another city. Pet
35 PacificWestern : People like that deserve to die! And what about those who insist on driving no more than 50kms where the posted speed limit is 90kms. Grrrrrr. I don'
36 Post contains images SLC1 : I do, what us Americans find funny is you know the ramp speeds that Americans love to ignore (and are told to ignore by police, driving instructors,
37 KaiGywer : I've driven in Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Germany, US, and Canada. And I give the Germans the most credit. Granted, they don't realize what those shiny
38 SLC1 : My bets are usually that they are driving home if you see a cop from a town 25 miles away on a highly residential freeway in SLC.
39 ORFflyer : That's my biggest peeve of all posted, and as Pacific Western noted.... shoot the bastards!! Merging is another story altogether. I believe it should
40 Post contains images PHLBOS : I encounter this everytime, I try to exit out the driveway of my apartment complex. To add insult to injury, a motorist wanting to enter the driveway
41 AAFLT1871 : I've been to both and still live in the D.C area and will no doubt throw my vote to the D.C area, in particular the Northern Virginia area at the mix
42 Post contains images CaptOveur : Living in Texas I really don't think people can bitch about the way Americans drive. In Texas, especially San Antonio we have an incredible number of
43 ANCFlyer : I left there just as they were halfway through the reconstruction of that nightmare . . . . I can't imagine it got any better . . . .
44 CORULEZ05 : ....uh, not always...... ...lame, oh so lame...... ..only the people who don't have radar detectors... People will always be people and well courtesy
45 Post contains images ANCFlyer : I agree, I'm more concerned about the weavers and those that are dangerous than simple discourteous drivers. I check people speeding - rarely write a
46 KaiGywer : Hope you're really proud of yourself for causing an accident. What if the person would have gotten hurt? Does it make you feel good? This thread is a
47 VHXLR8 : To all you guys going on about how discourteous US drivers are etc; I suggest you don't drive in Australia!! If you really want to see rude, discourte
48 AA777 : Its true, my cousins live in Abu Dhabi and my dad works in the Gulf also, and they have so many stories of crazy people who drive way too fast. So ma
49 777ER : I've noticed in New Zealand that if your vehicle has front and/or rear bull bars then your let in because other cars don't want to mess with you. I've
50 Pendrilsaint : I never thought New York drivers (excluding cabbies) were that bad really. For the most part, on the interstates they stay close to the speed limit (w
51 FLYtoEGCC : Sorry to drag this all the way down from reply 3, but this is an extremely common misconception about motorway driving in the UK, particularly among
52 Flymia : Well I have only be driven around really in the London area and I found the driving in London just as bad as any big city in the US. I never seen a bi
53 Post contains images TAM1079 : Pet Peeve: If I'm on a 4-lane or more highway, and I pass you in the passing lane, don't speed up. You don't have to be insulted that you're getting
54 NorCal : You think Airizona is bad, try driving in California
55 Iowaman : I can't believe no one has mentioned LAS. With all the tourists, distractions, traffic, illegal mexicans who don't have a license, and people in a rus
56 CPDC10-30 : Just drove for the first time in the UK last month - it was a refreshing experience. I expected it to be really tough driving on the "wrong side" of t
57 YYZAeroEng : At the end of April, some friends of mine and I drove from Toronto,Ontario to Fort Worth Texas. I must say, we found the American driver to be VERY co
58 Post contains images StarAC17 : Yeah Quebec drivers scare the crap out of me cuz they don't understand what a Red light seems to mean Also if any of you want to see careless Canadia
59 VC10BOAC : This really pisses me off and people do this ALL the time. Sometimes I wait for the last minute before using my blinkers just so the guy behind me do
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