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User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 17
Posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1003 times:

No, this one is not with an airline, this is for a High School basketball coaching job at a public school in Broward County. Note that, for the purposes of this board, all information identifying the school and recipient have been edited from the original. Here is my cover letter, along with the response:

Dear Athletic Director:

I am writing this letter in response to the posting on one of the websites that your varsity boys’ basketball coaching position at your high school is open. I am more than interested in this job and I feel that, given the opportunity, I could build your high school into having a competitive basketball program, but more importantly, a model for public schools around Broward County with respect to excellence in the classroom and around the community.

First, I understand that there are boundaries that may only be violated if, for example, a student intends to participate in a program that is not offered at their zoned high school. For example, a certain program is offered at your high school, however, it is not offered at the Broward County high schools with zones bordering your high school, which would allow students zoned in those districts to instead come to your school. Please note that I have no intention of actively recruiting students from outside of your zone to come to your school. To do so would simply be unfair to the students living inside of your attendance boundary that would effectively be “recruited over” for the sake of winning basketball games, which I will not condone. Additionally, it would also say to the students on our team that we cannot win without that student from outside of the attendance boundary, thus showing that I have no confidence in your students, which is simply not the case.

Second, I understand the benefits of extracurricular activities to our students. As a result, students wishing to play basketball will be REQUIRED to participate in an additional non-athletic extracurricular activity, such as the Art Club, Debate team, Student Government, or any of the vast offering of clubs offered at your high school. In order to accommodate this, practices will be held in the mornings, before school, and this will additionally give us an opportunity to make sure that the students on our basketball are in class, rather than deciding to sleep in. To keep the players accountable as a result of our morning practices, any student who cuts a class after attending basketball practice can expect to have their status as a member of our boys’ basketball team reviewed, particularly as that would be blatant ignorance of their responsibilities as a student.

There is, of course, the expectation that I should expect our team to excel on the basketball court as well. Eventually, I thoroughly expect to be able to develop a successful basketball program within the area as well, but with good kids that will also succeed in the classroom. However, I would much rather accept the hand I am dealt within our zones’ borders, and develop those students as both people and basketball players, rather than looking to kids within other school's zones to try to convince them to transfer into the certain program at your school.

As it is shown, I would like to develop our students as students and all-around people first, and athletes and basketball players second. Hopefully, you will consider all of the above, and allow your high school to have a model for the education of student-athletes in public schools to excel academically, athletically, and in extracurricular activities that will be emulated throughout Broward County.

Thank you very much for your time, and I hope to be hearing from you. Please feel free to contact me for any questions you may have.

Sincerely.



SHUPirate1


The response, you might ask?

"Thank your for your interest."

Yes, that was the entire response, delivered via e-mail. Now, call me crazy, but isn't that a nice way of saying we have no interest in interviewing you?


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User currently offlineMhodgson From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2002, 5047 posts, RR: 26
Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 999 times:

It may just be a 'We have recieved your application' email; I'd expect a little more than that for a rejection.


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User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7758 posts, RR: 16
Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 973 times:

Ummmm, yeah.... that is the nature of applying for a job. Just be glad you got ANY response.


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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13004 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 967 times:

First of all, your e-mail was too complicated. You would have had a better chance of kissing the butts of local school board members/local politicans for such a job. Despite the 'civil service' situation for such public school jobs, politics are still part of it. Perhaps if you said that 'our team will be the best in the state/region, no matter what it takes', then you might have had a chance.

User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 17
Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 967 times:

Quoting DesertJets (Reply 2):
Ummmm, yeah.... that is the nature of applying for a job. Just be glad you got ANY response.

An educator (and last I checked, high school Athletic Directors are educators)should actually at least be able and willing to explain why I didn't get an interview, a job, etc., or at least state that they are no longer considering me, rather than "thank you for your interest".

Fortunately, I do not live in that high school's zone, or, for that matter, within the borders of Broward County School District, so I don't have to worry about, if I ever have children (god help everybody, the world certainly does not need any SHUPirate1/8th's), sending them to that high school.

Oh, well, I guess the only thing I can do is get a job at another high school, put that one on my schedule, and beat the tar out of them when my school plays them!  Silly



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User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 17
Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 961 times:

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 3):
Perhaps if you said that 'our team will be the best in the state/region, no matter what it takes', then you might have had a chance.

Miami Senior High School (not far to the south) tried that a few years ago (I know the varsity coach that was involved there, he is now an assistant coach at Cincinnati, and a player on that 1998 FHSAA Class 6A State Championship team played at Seton Hall when I was the team manager there), and it goes without saying that things didn't turn out too well for anybody involved. Sorry, but I'd rather have four players on the FHSAA State All-Academic team with a .500 record than a state champion with a bunch of guys who are barely eligible to play academically (and the FHSAA, unlike many states, has minimum academic standards for student-athletes to be allowed to play), and I'd like to think that most Athletic Directors, Principals, and other assorted educators at the high school level would agree with me.



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User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 942 times:

It sounds like the standard auto response email any employer sends out when someone applies via email. Everybody who applied got that email, so don't get offended by it. Your email is probably one of hundreds they probably got for the position.

User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 17
Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 924 times:

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 3):
You would have had a better chance of kissing the butts of local school board members/local politicans for such a job.

One other thing to mention is that there is no local school board member or politician. Keep in mind that this high school is one of thirty high schools in its district, and as a result, the local politicians are worried about the county's schools as a whole, not each individual school. Unfortunately, that would not have worked, plus, I am not about to lie or deceive somebody in order to get a job.



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