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The Palace Of The Lost City, South Africa  
User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9160 posts, RR: 15
Posted (9 years 2 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3449 times:

Can anyone tell me a bit about this hotel? From what I heard it is very big and very luxurious.

Would love to go to South Africa one day...... maybe next year

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User currently offlineCanuckpaxguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3436 times:

Desmond,
Try this link: http://sun-city-south-africa.go2africa.com/palace.asp.

I just came back from South Africa. I've been fortunate to do a lot of touring, and I can tell you that it was by far the most stunning country I've ever seen. I will definitely go back. As for the hotel you mentioned, well, I didn't make it to Sun City, but I'm told it's just like a really expensive version of Las Vegas.

We stayed in Protea Hotels in South Africa. I would definitely recommend them to others, particularly the Protea - Paul Kruger Gate at Kruger Park, Sumunye (in Kwazulu-Natal) and the President in Cape Town.

Drop me an email if you want more details.

G



User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9160 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3430 times:

Oh cool! How was South Africa? Beautiful???

User currently offlineSpringbok747 From Australia, joined Nov 2004, 4387 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3421 times:

Ah..Canuckpaxguy...those photos above bring back so many memories Big grin

Those wild dogs on the road there in Kruger...wow I remember seeing a whole pack of them the last time I went to Skukuza Camp. Did you have the chance to see the whole park, or just the southern bits?

Here are some Kruger park photos I took:






United Airline..check out http://www.suninternational.com/resorts/suncity/

Lost City is an awesome place! You need to stay at least for a couple of days to see the whole place, and the surrounding areas.



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User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9160 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3418 times:

Cool. From what I heard the hotel is very luxurious. Can anyone confirm that? Anyone who stayed there before? Expensive?

User currently offlineJohnboy From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 2576 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3404 times:

I haven't stayed there, but came thisclose to reserving a room during a trip a couple of years ago.

The rooms are very pricey, so I stayed at Bakubang Lodge in Pilanesberg National Park instead (thinking, ultimately, that it was better to stay IN the park itself). If i had to do it a second time, I probably would spring for a couple of nights at the Palace just to say I'd done so.

I did, however, take a ride over to the Sun City area. There are several hotels there, but the Palace is definitely the top notch facility. They would not even let us in the lobby of the hotel (they had "tours" of the hotel that you had to pay for). There is definitely more to do if you stay in one of the hotels at Sun City....rather that in Pilanesberg at one of the lodges.

The casino is actually in a separate building, and I was not impressed with the facilities there. However, there are a few shops, and a cinema complex, as well as an extensive food court (with the usual suspects as in every mall in South Africa).


User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9160 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3399 times:

What if you want to dine in the hotel restaurant? Do they charge you an entrance fee?

What's the average rate of a 3 star hotel in South Africa? Shouldn't be too expensive I guess???


User currently offlineCanuckpaxguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3393 times:

Springbok747,
We started at Paul Kruger Gate (Protea Hotel) near Skukuza. We then spent 4 hours driving through the park a few days later en route to Swaziland.


We stayed mostly in the south end of the park and we're lucky enough to go on a 6 hour safari with a psycho tour-guide.


We were pretty lucky to see the animals we did. We saw 4 of the "Big 5" (no lions) and that pack of wild dog were great. The best safari was at Bongani Mountain Lodge (near Nelspruit). Our tour guides took us "off-roading" and we even drove over a small tree to get a better view of a rhino.


Unfortunately, we had to cut our trip short due to a family emergency. The good part is that we now have an automatic excuse to go back. We had to skip the Garden Route, but I was fortunate enough to make it to Hermanus and Cape Town before flying home.



User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3384 times:

I was at a conference in Sun City just last week and spent a lot of time at the Palace. The Hotel itself is very opulent but nothing earth shattering. Definitely not worth the ridiculous price tag they place on it.

http://www.airwhiners.net/images/palacehotel.jpg
http://www.airwhiners.net/images/palaceentrance.jpg

I was definitely underwhelmed by Sun City overall. Sure, it has great natural beauty and fantastic golf for those who are into that, but the casinos, hotels and other facilities are strictly middle-of-the-road. They don't even come close to Las Vegas and barely even compare to Emperor's Palace (Caesar's Gauteng) or Montecasino down in Joburg.

[Edited 2005-05-30 04:39:34]

User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9160 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3377 times:

From what I heard it is one of the top ten hotels on earth. As usual, top hotels are expensive. I am sure it's nice though.

Nice pictures everyone.

So anything special to do in South Africa????


User currently offlineLeskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 70
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3358 times:

I'll second B747-437B on his comments about The Palace - rather underwhelming when compared to the price tag.

South Africa certainly is one of the most beautiful and diverse countries on the face of this planet - you've got the whole bandwidth from watching animals in the different National Parks through relaxing on a beach to shopping.

Just to give you a few more impressions - these are some pictures I took on a tour from Cape Town to Windhoek (the pictures up to the waterfall, Augrabies Falls, are in South Africa, beyond that it's Namibia):
http://www.leskova.de/Scripts/Displa...t=Reisen&Sub=Suedafrika1997&Mode=I

And if all goes according to plan, which - hopefully - I'll find out today, I'll be back in South Africa on 10. June... Big grin

It is worth a visit.

Regards,
Frank



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User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3347 times:

I really liked the Palace at the Lost City, although it is overpriced (the full size bronze elephant is amazing !) The pool area and the water park beyond that are just fabulous. Within Sun City, the Cascades Hotel is probably the best value, it is lovely and set in stunning surroundings.

User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8443 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3342 times:
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Quoting United Airline (Reply 6):
What if you want to dine in the hotel restaurant? Do they charge you an entrance fee?

There are many more places at Sun City to eat than in the Palace. And hundreds more places in the country to visit! I have to attend conferences at Sun City regularly and quite frankly I am sick of the place! Sun City was built in the "independent homeland" of Bophuthatswana in the apartheid days to get round the no gambling/no sex/no fun unless you're white laws of the old South Africa.

Unless you have months to tour the country, don't even bother with Sun City, although the Pilanesberg Game Reserve is a good alternative to Kruger if you are in Johannesburg and pushed for time. Cape Town, the Garden Route, the Drakensberg mountains, the Karoo, the Wild Coast, and a trip into Namibia or Botswana are more "African" than Sun City.

Quoting United Airline (Reply 6):
What's the average rate of a 3 star hotel in South Africa? Shouldn't be too expensive I guess???

If you want the same hotel everywhere and pretty much guaranteed the same standard, check out these:
http://www.citylodge.co.za
http://www.proteahotels.co.za
However guest houses are everywhere, from cheap and cheerful to luxurious and opulent and do offer a better alternative to hotels.

If you go to Cape Town you HAVE to stay here: http://www.bluepeter.co.za right on the beach with awesome views and really not expensive at all!
This is the view from my hotel room last time I was there:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/andzz/111-1101_IMG.jpg

Sun City? Who needs it!



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User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3338 times:

Andz - was that picture taken at Blouberg or further up ? AWESOME view.

User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8443 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3333 times:
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JGPH1A that was taken from the window of our room in the Blue Peter Hotel right on Blouberg beach, it is about 800m down the beach from the Blouberg lifeguard station, if that helps!

Here's a couple more:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/andzz/IMG_1848.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/andzz/IMG_1850.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/andzz/IMG_1914.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/andzz/CapeTownBP.jpg



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User currently offlineNonrvsmdmf From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 186 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3325 times:

I spent 3 weeks in South Africa and barely touched all the great
things to do. I would post pics but I took 18 rolls and I am
really computer stupid to figure out how to scan and size
them.

Joburg was ok. Monte Casino was really nice I thought. Although
there was this market north of town, north of the resevoir that
was fun. Only locals there, it was actually kinda imtimidating.
Down the road from the market, there is a place that makes
life size carvings of animals out of stone and wood.

Kruger was amazing. I could go on hours about the great time
I had there.

Capetown was the best. My favorite place was Boulders where
there are penguins. You pay a small entry fee and can walk
on the beaches and between the rocks where the penguins
hang out. The water is so clear and blue it was an amazing
place. We also saw the seals and some whales in Hout Bay.

We also drove to the Cape of Good Hope. I realized how out of
shape I was on the brutal hike but it was worth it.

I would go back in a minute.



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User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3318 times:

Quoting Nonrvsmdmf (Reply 15):
Although
there was this market north of town, north of the resevoir that
was fun. Only locals there, it was actually kinda imtimidating.

Was that Bruma Lake ? If so, then it's east of town. At least it used to be  Smile


User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8443 posts, RR: 10
Reply 17, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3315 times:
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Quoting Nonrvsmdmf (Reply 15):
Although
there was this market north of town, north of the resevoir that
was fun.

That's Hartebeespoort Dam there is a huge craft market there.



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User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3315 times:

Quoting Andz (Reply 17):
That's Hartebeespoort Dam there is a huge craft market there.

Kewl. I used to go up the cable car there to watch the hang-gliders. Wonderful views from up there.


User currently offlineNonrvsmdmf From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 186 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3308 times:

Yes, Andz has it. That is it!! It took us a while to get there though.
We went to the Rhino and Lion preserve first. Then the dam was
closed to traffic so we had to go the long way around. Got some
great stuff at that market. Went to SA with one almost empty
suitcase, came back home 1 kilo away from paying extra baggage
for two bags.

The best part of the preserve was we were able to "pet" two
baby lions. They were about 9 months old and their paws
and teeth were huge. I am glad we were there during the
day when they were sleepy.



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User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9160 posts, RR: 15
Reply 20, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3299 times:

Does anyone have the rates in US$?????

SA is pretty cheap right?????


User currently offlineCanuckpaxguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days ago) and read 3293 times:

I found SA to be VERY reasonably priced on most things.

Name brand things like VonDutch, Tommy Hilfiger, etc. are all the same as they are here in North America, but I didn't fly half-way around the world to buy those things anyway.

Restaurants are cheap! My travel partner and I ate like royalty throughout SA at high end places and our average meal was about R300 ($60CAD, $45USD) including a bottle of wine.

G


User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9160 posts, RR: 15
Reply 22, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3285 times:

How much does an ordinary meal cost?

User currently offlineLooneyToon From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 444 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3279 times:

oh gosh  Sad

this thread brings back all the good memories of living in South Africa for 4 years and living a total of 8 in Africa all together. What great memories and South African people are very friendly. Those photos of Kruger Park bring back many more great memories as I have visited the park over 32 times!

ahhh, the great memories!  cloudnine 

nothing like flying the SAA 744 from JFK-JNB nonstop and vice-versa several times a year!  Smile



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User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9160 posts, RR: 15
Reply 24, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3278 times:

You can always go back and visit.

25 LooneyToon : once I manage to come up with enough money...
26 Nonrvsmdmf : SA was extremely cheap for everything when I was there. Its been about 3 years but the exchange rate was around 10R/1$. My first dinner was 107R, whi
27 Andz : The exchange rate today is: R6.81 = USD 1 R12.38 = GBP 1 R8.38 = EUR 1 In other words, good for tourists. Prices: Beer (regular pub) R8 Steak (350g fi
28 United Airline : That's very cheap indeed. So how does Palace of the Lost City compare to other top class hotels in the world???? Can't wait and visit SA. What about C
29 Post contains links Andz : Never stayed at the Palace so I can't comment. http://www.cape-town.org/ http://www.gocapetown.co.za/ http://www.capetowntravel.com/ http://www.joburg
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