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Medical (Heart) Question - Am I In Danger?  
User currently offlineBirdwatching From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 3822 posts, RR: 51
Posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1437 times:

Hi all!

I have a question that has been on my mind quite a while. I was going to ask my doctor about it, but first I will post it into the most trusted forum on the internet, right next door to the How Big Is Your Phonebook and Official Miss Universe thread!  Smile

Well, my problem is like this. At certain times I feel that my heart is slightly out of rhythm, which means that after beating regularly for a while, there would be something like a half thump in between, and then it continues normally again. The strange thing is that this ONLY happens when I lie down to sleep, and only for a couple of minutes afterwards. It definitely has to do with going from vertical (standing / sitting) position into horizontal position. After I'm in bed for about 5 or 10 minutes, all is normal again.

Let me add that I'm 23 years, non-smoker and non-drinker, with no records of heart disease in the family, I do regular exercise (half hour of jogging every afternoon), eat more or less healthily (ok there might be some McD's every other week) but generally I think I eat ok, with little fat. I usually drink fruit juice, water or diet Pepsi (a lot), I'm not stressed most of the times, and I avoid flying on russian-built planes.

Can anybody give me some advice? Is this dangerous? Has anybody experienced any similar condition?

Thanks a lot!


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User currently offlineNumberTwelve From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 1431 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1431 times:

That a joke, Birdwatcher? You post serious medical problems in this forum?
Go to a doctor if you don't feel good.

And check your Rail&Fly eticket voucher before travel  Wink



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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12110 posts, RR: 48
Reply 2, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1431 times:
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I would trust a site like www.webmd.com over this one.


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User currently offlinePacificWestern From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1422 times:

Get to a doctor ASAP. It could be many things and most of them are nothing to worry about. But at least you would have peace of mind knowing.

Don't mess around with your health. Okay?!


User currently offlineBirdwatching From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 3822 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1419 times:

Okay, Okay, I realize I should go to a doctor ASAP! I just thought anybody here has had a similar condition and could comment on this. I think I'll do some more online research and then take advantage of the wonderful generous German health care system!

Quoting NumberTwelve (Reply 1):
And check your Rail&Fly eticket voucher before travel {Wink}

Uh oh! I almost forgot! Will the doctor need to see my insurance card though, even if I am on etix? Isn't the printout sufficient?  Smile



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User currently offlineIL76 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2004, 2237 posts, RR: 48
Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1414 times:

It's nothing. I have it sometimes aswell, as have many of my friends and relatives. It happens when you're tired, especially if you're tired and drank alcoholic beverages, like when you come home from the pub...
Nothing to worry about.
E


User currently offlineSebolino From France, joined May 2001, 3681 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1402 times:

LOL,

No it's not serious.
It's called "extra systole" (in French). It's a common problem of the heart beat rythm. It happens more often after lunch or when you are stressed/excited or after a coffee.

However, you should see a physician to check if there's nothing else, but that's unlikely at your age.


User currently offlineBezoar From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 807 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1396 times:

You are most likely having what are called PVC's (premature ventricular contractions). They are common. If they are any more frequent than one in 4 beats for prolonged periods of time - an hour or more - you ought to have it checked out. Also, if you feel weak, have chest pains, or trouble breathing while this is going on, I'd check it out regardless.

You might be having them at other times. It may only be when you are lying down and still that you even notice it. Interestingly, it isn't the PVC that you feel, but the following contraction which normal. There is a 'compensatory pause' after a PVC where the next normal contraction comes on time. The heart has a longer time to fill with blood, which gives it an extra kick when it contracts. That is the beat you feel.

The most likely reason you are having PVC's is from caffiene. Lack of sleep is also a common contributor. There are other potential factors, but they are not likely in your case.

....an MD



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User currently offlinePilotaydin From Turkey, joined Sep 2004, 2539 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1391 times:

you're probably gonna get an EKG, i have an Ectopic heart, which means the beats are always regular, it's common in many people

but of course you shoulds ee a doc!



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User currently offlineBirdwatching From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 3822 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1381 times:

Thank you all for your advice, especially Bezoar (I put you on my list) for the comprehensive medical explanation! I feel much better now! Before, I always thought I might not even live to ever redeem all my AAdvantage miles.

Still, I might better see a doctor some time soon. At least now I know that I will still be around tomorrow.

Remember, dying young is never an option, because the older you get, the more you get from your $15 A.net signup fee!



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User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8453 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1380 times:
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The most common arrhythmia that most sufferers are unaware they even have is Atrial Fibrillation (Afib) which can go undetected for years. The problem with undetected Afib is that it can lead to stroke and death if left untreated.

I wouldn't agree with the armchair cardiologists here that it is "nothing to worry about", get to a doctor for an ECG or stress test and be sure.



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User currently offlineBezoar From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 807 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1370 times:

Quoting Andz (Reply 10):
most common arrhythmia that most sufferers are unaware they even have is Atrial Fibrillation

I would heartily disagree with this comment.

Atrial fibrillation is not uncommon in folks who are 50 yrs and older. It produces such a rapid and irregular heart rate that anyone who has it definitely knows something isn't right. It would be relatively rare for someone in their 20's to have it, and probably only then if they had some underlying congenital heart problem.

Without a doubt the most common reason why an otherwise healthy young male would have a sporadic or episodic 'palpitations' is from a PVC, which itself is benign.

It's rather difficult to diagnose in a message board. However, we are talking about odds.



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User currently offlineRootsAir From Costa Rica, joined Feb 2005, 4186 posts, RR: 40
Reply 12, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1310 times:

You may be doing an extra systole...which is prwetty normal...however my advice does not replace that of a cardiologist

Cheers



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User currently offlineCORULEZ05 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1288 times:

well, I think you should DEFINETLY see your doc ASAP. I understand why you are posting though. I myself am having a similar problem except my heart beats speed up suddenly like while I'm just laying down or sitting...not doing any extreme exercise. Also, at times I feel very strong palpitations and almost feel like my heart is gonna jump out through my mouth. I will be seeing my doc soon because I have a history of heart disease in my family so I am not taking any chances. In your situation, as like mine, the best and obvious thing to do is see the doctor just to make sure. Good luck and hope everything is alright!  yes   yes 

User currently offlineSLC1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1252 times:

Ya, I've felt something very similar, all of the sudden your heart makes a weird beat and then it's normal. I first started noticeing it at about 10-11 years old and it happens on occasion, maybe 4-5 times a month. When I was in the hospital one of the doctors noticed a heart murmur that I had, and when I was taken to the cardiologist later I mentioned this to him, and he said I was fine on both accounts.

User currently offlineCha747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 785 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1227 times:

Bezoar - I agree with you that PVC's are high on the list...I would also add sinus arrythmia and thyroid disease to the differential diagnosis. In anycase, he needs an ECG from his physician to help sort these out. Birdwatching...perhaps you can post a copy of your ECG or send it to us? It'd probably be an a.net first.


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User currently offlineBoeing Nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1207 times:

If you're drinkin' a lot of Pepsi, I'd bet that's your culprit. I had similar symptoms and I was a big coffee drinker. When I cut back on my coffee, the symptoms pretty much disappeared.

User currently offlineOldeuropean From Germany, joined May 2005, 2091 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1205 times:

I`ve heard of several people with these problems. Go to a cardiologist and let him/her check your heart.

Axel



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User currently offlineRedngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 44
Reply 18, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1203 times:

Bezoar,

I have had runs of PVCs especially during severe anxiety. They are scary, but effective in making me stop doing whatever I'm doing... and take a moment to relax!


redngold



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User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1166 times:

Go to see your doctor.

He will better know if you need a cardiologist or not.


User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1150 times:

I know that if I think I am having heart troubles, I will be consulting with A.net professionals before I go talk to doctors who specifically studied in the area of my problem for years and years.....

User currently offlinePope From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1146 times:

Quoting KROC (Reply 20):
I know that if I think I am having heart troubles, I will be consulting with A.net professionals before I go talk to doctors who specifically studied in the area of my problem for years and years.....

The same can be said for:

psychiatric troubles . . .
sexual troubles . . .
car troubles . . .
relationship troubles . . .
school work troubles . . .
sexual orientation troubles . . .
marital troubles . . .
substance dependence troubles . . .
etc . . .


User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1145 times:

Also a very good point Pope.

User currently offlineSeptember11 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3623 posts, RR: 21
Reply 23, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1140 times:

My friend had heart problem ... He was 47 when he told everyone that he was going to have pacemaker installed in his heart in 3 days ... BUT that very night he crossed that bridge and died that night in his sleep.


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