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Why's Alcohol Legal?  
User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1122 times:

Question's pretty self-explanatory.... what logic (be it legal, social, or otherwise) allows alcohol to be legal, whereas so many other like substances-- many of arguably less social consequence-- are barred?


Also, for what reason(s) did Governmental Prohibition fail/collapse??

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User currently offlineMonteycarlos From Australia, joined Mar 2005, 2107 posts, RR: 28
Reply 1, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1109 times:

I am guessing prohibition was deemed to be futile!

But also, I guess its not really that bad?

Hmmmm.



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User currently offlineOzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5155 posts, RR: 21
Reply 2, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1109 times:

Prohibition failed because people demanded thier booze, organized crime cornered the market in and the resulting gangland violence and lack of abitlity to control the influx of alcohol into the country was eventually recognized as a failure.

If it's not legal, you can't tax it bro!

As far as other drugs it's more of a social aversion to them I guess...I've always felt that pot for instance was infinately less harmless than booze. Not totally harmless of course...but relatively speaking.

I'ld surely rather be in the car with a stoned driver than a drunk one.



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User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1105 times:

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Thread starter):
Also, for what reason(s) did Governmental Prohibition fail/collapse??

As you are well aware, our government tried making alcohol illegal. They succeeded for thirteen years.

I actually had a history prof point to pros of prohibition – higher bank accounts, other social pluses, etc.

One can easily rebuff that by claiming it was due to other factors…


User currently offlineTheCoz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1101 times:

I think what eventually made prohibition end is that it actually increased crime -- an exact opposite reaction to what the lawmakers wanted.

It's an iteresting subject. I think I'll go read up on it now that you have mentioned it.


User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11447 posts, RR: 75
Reply 5, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1100 times:

Two reasons....

1. Cultural acceptance since time immemorial.

2. Because they tried to ban it once and all they did was lose revenue, organize American criminals and make the Kennedy family rich.



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User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1080 times:

Alcohol is legal because it's some good shit.

User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 7, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1059 times:

Alcohol is legal because it's some good shit.

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User currently offlineLogan22L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1042 times:

Quoting DL021 (Reply 5):
organize American criminals and make the Kennedy family rich.

Ian, have at least a small dose of integrity. No doubt, Joseph Kennedy had his fingers in the corn-pone pot, but at least try to slam a GOP dink at the same time.  Wink

Logan


User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 9, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1039 times:

Because it gives people something to make after school specials about, and fighting against drugs gives us somewhere to waste billions of dollars of taxpayer money.

Its industry hypocrisy. Same reason tobacco isn't illegal. Tobacco offers nothing whatsoever to the user, yet we allow it because its a cash crop.

N

[Edited 2005-06-02 06:27:57]

User currently offlineCaptOveur From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1036 times:

If alcohol was illegal what the hell would I do while my girlfriend was on vacation?

User currently offlineLogan22L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1028 times:

Quoting Gigneil (Reply 9):
Because it gives people something to make after school specials about, and fighting against drugs gives us somewhere to waste billions of dollars of taxpayer money.

Its industry hypocrisy. Same reason tobacco is illegal. Tobacco offers nothing whatsoever to the user, yet we allow it because its a cash crop.

As a drinker and a smoker, I can add nothing to this. Spot on, Neil.

Logan


User currently offlineMonteycarlos From Australia, joined Mar 2005, 2107 posts, RR: 28
Reply 12, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1015 times:

Quoting CaptOveur (Reply 10):
If alcohol was illegal what the hell would I do while my girlfriend was on vacation?

Sober up from wearing the beer goggles constantly?



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User currently offlineCaptOveur From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1012 times:

"Sober up from wearing the beer goggles constantly?"

Hell no, then I would realize I got screwed when they were handing out girlfriends.


User currently offlineMonteycarlos From Australia, joined Mar 2005, 2107 posts, RR: 28
Reply 14, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1007 times:

Quoting CaptOveur (Reply 13):
Hell no, then I would realize I got screwed when they were handing out girlfriends.

Yeah, why do you think I'm so pissed off!



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User currently offlineWukka From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1017 posts, RR: 16
Reply 15, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 993 times:

Quoting OzarkD9S (Reply 2):
I'ld surely rather be in the car with a stoned driver than a drunk one.

Agreed!

They both might get you in a wreck, but the stoned driver will be going at least 25 under the limit.  Smile



We can agree to disagree.
User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 947 times:

Quoting CaptOveur (Reply 13):
Hell no, then I would realize I got screwed when they were handing out girlfriends.

Easy Capt. Now there will be legions of A.netters looking for the spot where they "hand out" girlfriends.


User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11447 posts, RR: 75
Reply 17, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 919 times:

Quoting Logan22L (Reply 8):
Ian, have at least a small dose of integrity. No doubt, Joseph Kennedy had his fingers in the corn-pone pot, but at least try to slam a GOP dink at the same time

OK...because I would then be forced to smuggle in my 24 year old single malt the same way I have to smuggle in my Cuban cigars.......  Wink

Quoting Gigneil (Reply 9):
Because it gives people something to make after school specials about,

I forgot.



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User currently offlineMidnightMike From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2892 posts, RR: 14
Reply 18, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 905 times:

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Thread starter):
Question's pretty self-explanatory.... what logic (be it legal, social, or otherwise) allows alcohol to be legal, whereas so many other like substances-- many of arguably less social consequence-- are barred?


Also, for what reason(s) did Governmental Prohibition fail/collapse??

Wow, that is a very complex question, first off, Alcohol has been around for quite some time, also, wine is served in the church, so, in a way, alcohol, is blessed by the church.

Alcohol, also, has the least side-affects of any narcotic type.

Prohibition failed due to the overwhelming pressure of common citizens that simply ignored it and the rise of crime attributed to "speak-easys" (ill-legal bars). Many people simply felt there was nothing wrong with drinking, unlike the way people about cocaine, or heroin.



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User currently offlinePope From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 898 times:

Quoting OzarkD9S (Reply 2):
If it's not legal, you can't tax it bro!



Quoting Gigneil (Reply 9):
Its industry hypocrisy. Same reason tobacco isn't illegal. Tobacco offers nothing whatsoever to the user, yet we allow it because its a cash crop.

Exactly. Follow the money. Alcohol companies make tons of $$$. The $$$ allows them to buy lots of influence. The governments love the taxes. Its a symbiotic relationship.


User currently offlinePope From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 895 times:

Quoting CaptOveur (Reply 10):
If alcohol was illegal what the hell would I do while my girlfriend was on vacation?

I would imagine that without alcohol, your chance of having a girlfriend would be close to zero!


User currently offlineSeptember11 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3623 posts, RR: 21
Reply 21, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 892 times:

One thing I NEVER understand is that alcohol is legal while marijuana is not legal!


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User currently offlineDucatiRacer From United States of America, joined May 2005, 247 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 884 times:

With respect to the marijuana vs. alcohol issue, I once read some commentary that put a racial spin on the reason for making marijuana illegal. According to this commentary, in the earlier years of the 1900's marijuana use was pretty much concentrated among Hispanic immigrants. By making marijuana illegal, that demographic could be easily singled out for harrassment and imprisonment or deportation.

Again, this is just something I read, and it is not my opinion nor is it intended to stir any racial argument here.


User currently onlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5569 posts, RR: 36
Reply 23, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 870 times:

Alcohol is legal because it is at first not a drug like heroin, kokain and others but it belongs to a drink. A good glass of wine consists alcohol but this is not the most important. Wine tastes simply good, alcohol is only the side effect. I don't drink wine and beer to get drunk but because I like it (ok I admit sometimes I get drunk Big grin ). When you take other drugs you usually take it to get high and not because you like the taste.

User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39907 posts, RR: 75
Reply 24, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 855 times:

Quoting September11 (Reply 21):
One thing I NEVER understand is that alcohol is legal while marijuana is not legal!

Imagine it like this.
A party full of pot-heads vs. a party full of drunks.
Which one will turn out to be violent?
The party full of drunks.
Our government needs violent outlaws so they can be thrown in prison for cheap labor. That's what feeds the predatory capitalist machine.



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25 Aa777flyer : Because other drugs are not...
26 HeyMach : ...and we need something to numb us before reading a thread like this....
27 ConcordeBoy : ...if that's the case, why the continued "War on Drugs"?? (rhetoric) The American Psychiatric Institute, MADD, PDFA, et al could not possibly disagre
28 Lutenist : Obviously you do not fall into the category populated by 99.9% of young males! You should ask them why they consume beer. There are many people of al
29 Post contains images Superfly : I'll drink to that! I had a cold two days ago and made a Hot Totty and it was gone the next morning.
30 Orion737 : Because we need something to help us cope with life. I would go mad if I couldnt have a brandy or a gin now and then, Im all for anything that makes t
31 ScarletHarlot : Similar to Orion, my thought is that the masses need some way to take the edge off life and alcohol is considered the most innocuous. If alcohol was n
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