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Ultra Computer People, I Need Networking Help  
User currently offlinePlanespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3298 posts, RR: 7
Posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 704 times:

Alrite kids, im in dire need of networking assistance.

I have owned a Dell PC for the past 3 years or so. I've had very good luck with it, and with some of my graduation money I purchased a Dell laptop, an Inspiron 9300. Anywho, they both have XP, and all i want to do is transfer my music and video files from the PC to the laptop.

I went to my local best buy and purchased a cross-over cable . Brought it home and I plugged it into each computers ethernet port. I did the windows networking wizard on both computers. The PC is networked, sharing files and everything. The laptop is not networked, and the network notification thing at the bottom right hand of the screen says "Local Area Connection, 100 MBPS, little or no connectivity". The network icon on the PC syas everything is normal.

I cannot for the life of me figure out what to do. I've asked many of my more tech savvy people, but they have offered little help or expertise. Mostly I got "hmmm, i don't know anything about cross over cables". So no luck there. I am going to my parents house this weekend (2 hours or so away) and i would like to be able to pack up my PC and just have my laptop uphere at school. So quick assistance would be appreciated. Thank you.


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User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 7091 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 703 times:

I don't remember exactly, but doesn't XP have that feature that allows you to run the network wizard on one computer and then transfer the settings to others via e.g. floppy disk?


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User currently offlinePlanespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3298 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 698 times:

yes, and that would be cool, except said laptop has no floppy drive.


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User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 7091 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 692 times:

Oops!  Silly

Can you use a USB stick instead? I couldn't remember if my life depended on it.


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User currently offlineJetsGo From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2766 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 688 times:

Well, what exactly are you trying to do with this network? Do you want to share files? Access internet wirelessly off of one connection? Or what? Let me know and I would be glad to help you out - just shoot me a more in depth email and I can help you out. I have a whole home network setup and have been through all the hours of stress, so I know how it feels.


Chris


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User currently offlineEuclid From South Africa, joined Apr 2005, 364 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 647 times:

I had that exact same problem on my dad's PC when I set up his home network for him (4 PC's in total), and I was able to solve it in a matter of a few minutes, but for the life of me I cannot remember what caused the problem in the first place and what I did to solve it. This was only a month ago, so old age is definitely starting to take its toll.  old 

I will think about it, and the moment it all comes back to me I will post the solution, if it comes to me at all.

Regards

Euclid

User currently offlineBoeingnut From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 402 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 639 times:

make sure that you have input an IP address for each machine, instead of having them try to grab one via DHCP. Since these two machines are hooked up directly to each other, there is no DHCP server to dish out addresses. If the computer has no address, no network.

Or you could add the IPX/SPX protocol, and just net use over to the shared drive. No need for IP addresses with IPX. Just make sure that you delete IPX/SPX from both machines after you are done, because it is a pretty big security hole to have on your machine


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User currently offlineAM744 From Mexico, joined Jun 2001, 1587 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 637 times:

Crossover cables DO NOT always work. The ethernet standard specifies that a hub is needed, that's because it is the one that provides synchronization pulses. Some high end ethernet cards, say 3Com, do provide synchronization by themselves, thus if you connect a couple of 3C509s they most probably will work, but nothing guarantees you that any given couple or cards will work connected by a crossover. You could buy a cheap hub (just a few dollars) and a couple of straight cables and there you go... just remember to configure both computers in the same Workgroup, otherwise they won't see each other. A final point, don't know about XP, but in W2K you had to have the "Microsoft Printer and File Sharing" service and the "Microsoft NetBEUI" protocol installed in both computers(Network Neighborhood > Properties > LAN Connection > Properties, or something along those lines), otherwise they wouldn't see each other. Those were the required protocols/services to share files in a Windows 2000 LAN. Bottom line is, when you have you harware up and running you need to make sure both computers have the appropriate protocols/services installed/configured whichever they might be in XP.

User currently offlineKay From France, joined Mar 2002, 1873 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 627 times:

"Local Area Connection, 100 MBPS, little or no connectivity" sounds like a message given by a wireless device. Not what you want.

Step by step:
1- Make sure that both network cards have the Link light on. If not, than the cable is unfortunately the bad one.
2- Give an IP address to each PC, and both must be in the same domain (192.168.10.1/255.255.255.0 and 192.168.10.2/255.255.255.0)
3- Go to the File Sharing Wizard in My Network Places and enable sharing of files it is disabled by default.
3- Make sure Microsoft File Sharing and Microsoft Client is added in the Network Properties on both machines
4- Go to the Network Name of the computer and put both machines in a Workgroup that has the same name.
5- Restart both machines.
6- Test that they ping each other (by IP address). If not, stop right there and try again. You're doing something wrong.
6- If yes, search for the other computer in My Network Places.

And cross cables do work 90% of the time. I used to breathe out of them them at work and at home when I was a Network Engineer. I wrote all the above list in 45 seconds. There definitely is a lot wrong with it because I haven't worked with these things for a long time, but worth trying.

Kay

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