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This Cop Was Messing With Me!  
User currently offlineVC10BOAC From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 401 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1634 times:

Yesterday evening I was heading to a restaurant on Amsterdam Ave around 74 St. in NYC with a friend and her son. Amsterdam Ave in this area has five lanes, all going in the same direction (one way). Typically there are cars parked along both sides and very hard to find a parking spot.

I pulled up in front of the restaurant next to a parked car on the right to let my friend and her son out to wait for me in the restaurant while I went to find a parking spot on the next block. As soon as I slowed down, a cop pulled up behind me and blew some kind of horn/siren so I could keep moving. Now traffic was not heavy any was moving easily past me since there were several other lanes. I motioned to the cop that to wait while my passengers got out and in less than 30 seconds I was on my way. The cop pulled up alongside me to the left at the next light and motioned for me to roll the window down. Then he said in a rather nasty arrogant manner " Listen, WE don't wait for YOU!" I just mouthed "whatever", rolled my window back up and went on my way.

This was a trivial incident but I was upset by the rudeness of the cop, I mean this is New York City, sometimes you have no choice but to do what I did in dropping off passengers. My question, do you think the cop was out of line? If I had taken him to task for his rudeness, is there any way he could justify a violation? Let me know what you think, I would like to hear from ANCFlier.

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User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1621 times:

Ah, things like that will happen.

I would just get past it, you can't expect every cop to be considerate and nice.

And I would advise you not to challenge a pair of cranky cops, they'll do whatever they can to pick on you if you challenge their behavior.

You did the right thing by shrugging them off.



-NWA742


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1613 times:

Quoting VC10BOAC (Thread starter):
Let me know what you think, I would like to hear from ANCFlier.

Well, first, it's ANCFlYer . . .

Second, if happened as you described (not saying it didn't), then the cop is an asshole. Anything else you'd like me to add?

Rude, arrogant asshole.

Of course, I'd expect that behavior on the East Coast . . . that's why I don't live there. Sorry East Coasters, I simply find the attitude of most people very rude . . . worse than myself in fact  biggrin .


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1610 times:

VC10BOAC:
Be careful. Some cops can be real dicks and there power can go to there heads. That piece of $h!t should lose his badge for that.
I wouldn't piss them off either. They could drag you out of the car and beat you if they wanted and get away with it.



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User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1598 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 2):
Of course, I'd expect that behavior on the East Coast . . . that's why I don't live there. Sorry East Coasters, I simply find the attitude of most people very rude . . . worse than myself in fact

Hows your igloo?

Anyways I would have waved and smiled at them and said hi. Just to mess with them.



Go big or go home
User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11445 posts, RR: 76
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1595 times:
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You probably caught either an asshole, or a dude having a bad day.

Don't assume that this is indicative of every cop......it's probably an isolated incident.

If you really have a problem with any police officer then just get their name, badge number or vehicle number. Contact the local precinct and discuss it with their watch commander, and I would bet that the problem would not be readily repeated.



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User currently offlineAerobalance From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 4674 posts, RR: 48
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1594 times:

A one finger salute was in order..........


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User currently offlineWellHung From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1593 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 3):
That piece of $h!t should lose his badge for that.

Lose his badge for saying 'we don't wait for you'? WTF are you talking about?

If some dickhead stopped in front of me, I'd be honking my horn, too. It's not my problem that your lazy ass passengers can't walk a block from a parking spot.


User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1586 times:

Quoting WellHung (Reply 7):
If some dickhead stopped in front of me, I'd be honking my horn, too. It's not my problem that your lazy ass passengers can't walk a block from a parking spot.

Ah the voice of reason



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1580 times:

WellHung:
It was obvious VC10BOAC was dropping off a lady and he kid and the pig could have just driven around. He had plenty of space.
Him using the term "we" means he is speaking on behalf of all police officers. He is abusing his powers as an officer. It doesn't matter if it's verbally or through force, it's still an abuse of power.



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User currently offlineVC10BOAC From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 401 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1580 times:

Superfly,

You are right. I really wanted to address his behavior but I did not want to risk lying face down on the pavement getting my ass whupped. I hate to bring up the race card but I could not help wondering if the fact that I am a black man driving a BMW had anything to do with it.


User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1565 times:

Quoting VC10BOAC (Reply 10):
I am a black man driving a BMW had anything to do with it.

I doubt it VC, in a city like that it is not uncommon to see all sorts of people driving all sorts of cars.



Go big or go home
User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1563 times:

Superfly,

Why the hell should those cops be fired for one little rude remark?

Sure it was uncalled for, but losing their jobs over this? Are you serious?




-NWA742


User currently offlineDash8King From Canada, joined Nov 2001, 2742 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1556 times:

I have to agree with Wellhung on this one, but I don't know much about traffic I live in a small town.

User currently offlineFlymusic From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1555 times:

Quoting VC10BOAC (Thread starter):

That's NYC for you.


User currently offlineVC10BOAC From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 401 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1552 times:

Quoting WellHung (Reply 7):
Lose his badge for saying 'we don't wait for you'? WTF are you talking about?

If some dickhead stopped in front of me, I'd be honking my horn, too. It's not my problem that your lazy ass passengers can't walk a block from a parking spot

First of all I had no lazy ass passengers. I had a lady in heels and her son. I don't know who raised you or how you were raised (I am assuming there were civilized humans involved but I could be wrong) but I was taught how to be a gentleman.

Secondly, if you think doing what I did makes me a "dickhead" I wouldn't worry too much about it since judging by your screen name, you are probably not very good or accurate in handing out descriptive names.

[Edited 2005-06-03 20:07:56]

User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 16, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1550 times:

Quoting VC10BOAC (Reply 10):
I hate to bring up the race card but I could not help wondering if the fact that I am a black man driving a BMW had anything to do with it.

I understand. The neocons here will scream bloody murder. The BMW had nothing to do with it. They would have done the same if you were driving an old Pinto.


NWA742:
Yes I am serious.
Cops get away with too much and most people would lose there job if they are an asshole on the job.



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User currently offlineWellHung From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1545 times:



User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11445 posts, RR: 76
Reply 18, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1543 times:
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Quoting Superfly (Reply 9):
It was obvious VC10BOAC was dropping off a lady and he kid and the pig could have just driven around. He had plenty of space.

Thats a load of crap.....Fly, calling a cop a pig is just as screwed up as you or I being referred to by a name intended to deride our ethnicity or orientations.

If you weren't there, then ease up a little on the guy.


VC10.....You experienced the least of what may have come. A cabbie would have been really rude.

I think that if you follow my advice from the first post I left you'll be alright in the future.



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User currently offlineVC10BOAC From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 401 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1534 times:

Actually DL021 if you drive down Amsterdam Ave in this area at this time, you will notice that about half the vehicles are cabs and they drop off and pick up passengers just like I did all the time. Also during this time several cabs went around without missing a beat.

User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1531 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 3):
Some cops can be real dicks and there power can go to there heads. That piece of $h!t should lose his badge for that.

Not likely . . . lose a badge for this, you're smoking too much local tobacco Superfly.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 3):
They could drag you out of the car and beat you if they wanted and get away with it.

Only in NYC - and maybe SFO.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 9):
and the pig could have just driven around.

I take exception to the name calling - I know you don't give a shit, however . . .

I know I might overindulge at the table every now and then, ya know on a good meal and decent bottle of wine, but I'd hardly classify myself as a pig. DO you realize how ignorant your comments make you sound Superfly, and we all know from your A-Net history you're not ignorant - hell man, you drive Fords . . .

Quoting VC10BOAC (Reply 10):
I hate to bring up the race card

Then why bother.

I already gave you my take, since you made the invitation in the thread opener. The guy was out of line, rude . . . what makes you think it was racially motivated?

Quoting Superfly (Reply 16):
Yes I am serious.

Cops get away with too much and most people would lose there job if they are an asshole on the job.

Unfortunate that you think this way . . . I have perhaps misjudged you based on your previous posts here in A-Net. What a scornful hatred for law enforcement you must harbor. Too bad . . .


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 21, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1531 times:

Quoting DL021 (Reply 18):
Fly, calling a cop a pig is just as screwed up as you or I being referred to by a name intended to deride our ethnicity or orientations.

Incorrect.
The term 'pig' is fitting in this case and VC10BOAC described the situation pretty well. Why couldn't he pass up VC10BOAC since he had plenty of space to do it?
Sure a cabbie could have been much ruder as many NYC cab drivers are but a cabbie runs the risk of being challenged and/or beat up. Not a police officer. Would this pig done the same thing if he were out of uniform, off duty and in his own car?
Doubt it!

Also a "pig" can be any color and being a cop is a profession by choice.
I stand by my previous statements on this matter.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 22, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1523 times:

ANCFlyer:
I was not making a blanket statement against all police officers.
Many of them are good people and do a fantastic job. The "pig" reference was to those that abuse there power.

Sorry I didn't make myself clear.



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User currently offlineVC10BOAC From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 401 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1513 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 20):
Then why bother.

I already gave you my take, since you made the invitation in the thread opener. The guy was out of line, rude . . . what makes you think it was racially motivated?

OK maybe I should not have brought it up but if you know the history of African immigrants (like me) and cops in NYC you would kinda pause and wonder.

This thread is not an attack on NYC cops, most of whom are decent people, just an asshole who happens to be a cop. Difference is most regular assholes cannot hurt me, an asshole who happens to be a cop can.

[Edited 2005-06-03 20:26:46]

User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1512 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 22):
The "pig" reference was to those that abuse there power

OK, I'll buy that . . . as I said, the was a rude asshole.


25 COboeing777 : I am a police officer on the east coast..actually right next NYC but not NY state, and judging by what you did/gestured toward the officers I can unde
26 AA61Hvy : I have come into contact with many cops. I've been pulled over for BS reasons like I made a wide turn, I've had my car searched countless times. Those
27 FlyingTexan : Gotta love WellHung Or worse, hit it and the Pinto explodes! Being black and challenging the NYPD can be hazardous to one’s health.
28 TheCoz : Hey ANCFlyer, would would have happend if he gave the cop the bird? Are you allowed to do that?
29 VC10BOAC : Hell no, he would have shot my ass. In NYC, a midle finger (along with other objects such as a wallet) can be mistaken to be a gun.
30 DL021 : Oh, don't be hysterical. If you really think you can be shot or abused at will by the police in NYC then you should amass some evidence and take it t
31 ANCFlyer : Well, which is is VC10BOAC, an attack or not? Seems you speak with forked tongue!? If you'd like to be referred to on the same plain as this particul
32 Superfly : DL021: I guess you didn't read reply #22.
33 EmiratesA345 : Was it a "no-stopping zone"? If so, you were in the wrong and should be happy you didn't get a ticket. If not, I agree with the majority. Mark
34 Superfly : EmiratesA345: Couldn't possibly be a 'No stopping zone' since there were parked cars.
35 Purpleheepster : I often wonder if Police are taught sarcasm as part of their training!
36 EmiratesA345 : I see what you're saying, however he did indicate that he pulled up with a car to his right side. He was obstructing traffic by doing this, and I kno
37 Superfly : EmiratesA345: I can't stand slow drivers either and here in San Francisco, we have lots of people who double park on narrow street. The street in ques
38 EmiratesA345 : Either do I, but on the other hand, there are laws for a reason and they should be followed. Mark
39 Post contains images WellHung : What kind of ridiculous vendetta are you on? A lane of moving traffic is by default a no-stopping zone. If they wanted people to stop there, it would
40 Post contains images CactusA319 : When I read the thread title I thought you were talking about one of these guys: Anyone who's watched "Super Troopers" understands.... I have a better
41 DL021 : Sure I did. I don't agree with you here. I could go into the times that police officers have gone out of their way to help others, me in particular,
42 Superfly : DIO21: So I guess you didn't comprehend what I said either. ANCFlyer who IS a cop understood, why can't you? Did VC10BOAC break any laws?
43 ANCFlyer : Technically, well, yes - Impeding the Flow of Traffic. I know, I know it's a chicken sh*t answer, but that's the down and dirty. But you did ask the
44 Post contains images Superfly : My point exactly! We need more cops like ANCFlyer! This cop is being very rude to the very people he is paid to 'serve and protect'. Now IF VC10BOAC
45 DL021 : Fly...I comprehend you...I disagree with you. I will also bet that anyone who calls a cop a pig in ANCs presence would have a serious discussion abou
46 Superfly : DIO21: OK let me try this again. I was not making a blanket statement against all police officers. Many of them are good people and do a fantastic job
47 IAH777 : If it had been a cab driver or a FedEx driver that did that, would you have the same problem?
48 ANCFlyer : Same holds true I'm afraid anywhere. Recently had a State Trooper accused by several people of brutality. I'll be the first to tell you I know a lot
49 Bezoar : Some battles are not worth fighting. One option might have been to simply told the officer "I'm sorry. Thanks," and move on. It's probably not a good
50 Flyboy36y : My god, you ppl are so thin skinned. NY cops are some of the best in the nation and I think that one or two ppl having a bad day don't change that.
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