MEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4434 posts, RR: 34
Reply 3, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1129 times:
Not sure what I should hope in this case, seems a choose between two bads.
If he's convicted, he probably won't live to sit out his jail sentence.
If he's not convicted, I hope at least he will get a supervisor or counselors who takes care he can never get that close with children anymore.
Anyway, his career is ended as least as tragically as Elvis Presleys. I wonder why so many superstars f*cked their lives up by the time they are 40 and others (Sinatra, Cliff Richard, the Rolling Stones) stay well and healthy til they're at least 75.
nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
Kay From France, joined Mar 2002, 1887 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1108 times:
my guess is, if letting him go free was a possibility from the start, the trial wouldn't be so thorough so long and so mediatised. on the other hand, they have nothing concrete neither, so my guess is he will be found guilty on the light charges and innocent on the others, pushing him to jail for something like 6 months to 2 years max. After that period, everybody will be happy.
TedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1081 times:
Quoting Diamond (Reply 2): I think the jury is going to have a tough time convicting him "beyond a shadow of a doubt". His attorneys were pretty effective and creating doubt.
The fact they have spent almost a week on it so far is VERY intersting, add to that the fact they had a 'short day' yesterday, and I'll go dimes to dollars we are looking at a hung Jury/mistrial on some counts. They will probably convict on the 'giving alcohol to a minor' charge and that will be enough to put him in jail/house arrest for now.
Dtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1077 times:
My problem with the entire issue, is that although I think he is guilty, he does not believe that he has done anything wrong, and that is very sad.
Look, I'm 43 (ouch that hurt to say that) and a gay man. If I invited the little neighbor boy over, showed him soft core porn, gave him "jesus juice" and shared my bed with him, I'd be in Jackson Prison (no pun intended, but that's the name of the state prison in Jackson, Michigan) faster than I could say Judy Garland.
The guys got issues and more money than god....which will win?
CORULEZ05 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1008 times:
I'm willing to put money on a not guilty verdict. So, all the anticipation and speculation is just pointless because everyone knows he will NOT be serving any time. Oh and as for the news media, it is truly sad that they have these 24 hour reports on what is going on yet there is NOTHING to report on so they just sit there and speculate...sad sad sad.
FRAspotter From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2395 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1007 times:
Even though I think that MJ is guilty and that he should go to prison, I think he is going to get off... If it is taking the jury 7+ days to come up with a vedict, that's almost never a good thing for the prosecution...
"Drunk drivers run stop signs. Stoners wait for them to turn green."
September11 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3623 posts, RR: 20
Reply 16, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1002 times:
I would not label Michael Jackson as a child molester. I do not think he molested a boy but he did spend a lot of his time with small boys, too many of them. lol. That is what he likes. No one knows for sure what he did do with the boys, only Michael Jackson and "his" boys.
Jamesbuk From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 3968 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 990 times:
the fact about michael jackson is that hes a 40 year old man. i was explaining it to friends at school and i said its like your dad sleeping with your mate its not right and its not acceptable. the thing about this trial is that people want to make him poor and suffer like everyone else in the world
its a word vs word case and should be chucked out of court for lack of evidence as there isnt any evidence. michael should admit sleeping with boys is wrong and let it be and let him do what he does best and sing
You cant have your cake and eat it... What the hells the point in having it then!!!
Superfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40298 posts, RR: 74
Reply 18, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 987 times:
What ever comes out of this, I really hope that Michael Jackson gets some mental help. Just look at him. As strange as he looks on the outside, just imagine what's going on in the inside.
I think he needs mental help more than anything.
I am not legal expert but is it possible that he could be found guilty yet get a light sentence without any jail time?
There have been case of people being convicted for murder and get a small fine of $500.
TAM1079 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 92 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 975 times:
Quoting Superfly (Reply 18): What ever comes out of this, I really hope that Michael Jackson gets some mental help. Just look at him. As strange as he looks on the outside, just imagine what's going on in the inside.
I think he needs mental help more than anything.
This is EXACTLY what needs to happen. The man definitely has some serious mental health issues that should be addressed first. But..That does not make him any less of a predator, and pedophile. If you guys deny that...you are sticking your head in the sand. He has all the qualities and characteristics of a child molester. Period. Lets hope he gets the help he needs. Who knows..maybe he can come back agian after he has done his due time.
Banco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 20, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 969 times:
I do hate it when I read people terming acquittal verdicts as the accused "getting off". It's an automatic assumption that someone is guilty just because they're charged, and that they've got away with it. How on earth can anyone who hasn't been in court definitively say he's guilty? Not guilty means not guilty, and if that's what comes out, then you have to accept it for what it is. I know it's idealistic, but there we are. Otherwise the implication is that the jury are stupid.
She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
He IS strange enough...so that added to the rest of the weirdness wouldn't surprise me.
Quoting Superfly (Reply 23): I don't know man. I have his last two albums and I think it's time for him to hang it up
Who knows...with all this stress of the trail, it could be a creative outlet for him. Maybe his best work ever...
Otherwise..hes just gonna go right back to little boys. It will just be another cycle if he gets off. Maybe part of the mental health work would be creating another album. Come back as super star...probably not, but maybe as a has been. Hasn't Cher been retiring for years now? He could pull a Celine, and have his own show in vegas for decades to come?!?!? Just in idea..
: One of two things could happen in my mind... One, he'll be found not guilty, because the Jury can't believe a word the mother has said thus far. Two,
: TAM1079: I don't think he can make the same kind of comeback as those you've mentioned. Child molestation is the worse thing someone can be accused of
: The Freak should be locked up in a zoo. But,like OJ,MJ has enough money to cheat justice..
: Nah, he'll have access to young boys at the zoo.
: Superfly, Its just all wishful thinking on my part. I personally think he is guilty as sin, and definitely won't make a comeback. This touches close t
: In N.America, yes, as it's long-since been.... the dude can still sell big in Europe and Asia though, as recent attempts have shown. Gloria Allred di
: BWAHAHAHAHA Hillarious!!! I can just hear the rythm now. And Barney? OUCH...thats so wrong its beautiful! **Bow chica bow wow, chica chica bow woow!*
: What I wonder is how they found enough "impartial" jury members for this. Everyone HAS to have had some opinion on it, one way or another.. Same with
: BUT... that's not the way our system of justice works. The defense did a great job of questioning the credibility and honesty of both the mother and
: Me....nah. I just love little boys who get off on world domination. Stewie @ 30 =Young Leather Daddy with a paddle.
: HEY WATCH IT! the 70s was the greatest time ever! TAM1079: Excellent post and I agree 100%. I hope your frined managed to recover and live a normal l
: Thanks Fly, Yeah..hes cool now. Took him a bit to get over it. But hes pretty "normal" now. Hes rather eccentric...but back to normal eccentric. I agr
: If you don't think you need help, then getting help will not benefit you. It would be a waste of money and time. Mark