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User currently offlineAirWillie6475 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 2448 posts, RR: 1
Posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1076 times:

Any body care about the verdict? I think he's probably going to jail, he's done too much. Have you noticed he's not wearing pajamas to court anymore?

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User currently offlineNWADC9 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4898 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1071 times:

Albino Boy and his clever hand from Neverland are gonna trade in animals and ferris wheels for orange shirts and bars. 'Nuf said.


Flying an aeroplane with only a single propeller to keep you in the air. Can you imagine that? -Capt. Picard
User currently offlineDiamond From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3279 posts, RR: 63
Reply 2, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1069 times:

I predict that he's going to walk away from this with no jail time.

I think the jury is going to have a tough time convicting him "beyond a shadow of a doubt". His attorneys were pretty effective and creating doubt.

The conspiracy charge will certainly go away.

As for the molestation, the judge can waive any jail time in the event of a guilty verdict if MJ intends to appeal.


(This only expresses what I THINK may happen - not what I believe regarding his guilt or innocence.)



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User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4353 posts, RR: 35
Reply 3, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1039 times:

Not sure what I should hope in this case, seems a choose between two bads.

If he's convicted, he probably won't live to sit out his jail sentence.
If he's not convicted, I hope at least he will get a supervisor or counselors who takes care he can never get that close with children anymore.
Anyway, his career is ended as least as tragically as Elvis Presleys. I wonder why so many superstars f*cked their lives up by the time they are 40 and others (Sinatra, Cliff Richard, the Rolling Stones) stay well and healthy til they're at least 75.



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User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1034 times:

I think there will be a mistrial due to a hung jury.

Mark


User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 5, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1027 times:

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 4):
I think there will be a mistrial due to a hung jury.

What's the procedure in the US when this happens? Does it always go to another trial or do they sometimes let it lie on file?



She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
User currently offlineLurch From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 0 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1027 times:

A Mistrial will kill him just as quickly as a Jail term.
As he will have to do it all over again and look at the mess he is in now.

His finances are a wreck he is going to sell Neverland M&M wants it for his daughter.

If he still has the Beatles back catalogue that will most likely go and wacko will end up on Skid Row!


User currently offlineKay From France, joined Mar 2002, 1884 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1018 times:

my guess is, if letting him go free was a possibility from the start, the trial wouldn't be so thorough so long and so mediatised. on the other hand, they have nothing concrete neither, so my guess is he will be found guilty on the light charges and innocent on the others, pushing him to jail for something like 6 months to 2 years max. After that period, everybody will be happy.

Kay


User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 991 times:

Quoting Diamond (Reply 2):
I think the jury is going to have a tough time convicting him "beyond a shadow of a doubt". His attorneys were pretty effective and creating doubt.

The fact they have spent almost a week on it so far is VERY intersting, add to that the fact they had a 'short day' yesterday, and I'll go dimes to dollars we are looking at a hung Jury/mistrial on some counts. They will probably convict on the 'giving alcohol to a minor' charge and that will be enough to put him in jail/house arrest for now.


User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 987 times:

My problem with the entire issue, is that although I think he is guilty, he does not believe that he has done anything wrong, and that is very sad.

Look, I'm 43 (ouch that hurt to say that) and a gay man. If I invited the little neighbor boy over, showed him soft core porn, gave him "jesus juice" and shared my bed with him, I'd be in Jackson Prison (no pun intended, but that's the name of the state prison in Jackson, Michigan) faster than I could say Judy Garland.

The guys got issues and more money than god....which will win?


User currently offlineTWFirst From Vatican City, joined Apr 2000, 6346 posts, RR: 52
Reply 10, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 963 times:

What I don't understand is why no one is calling for the kid's mother to be put in jail.


An unexamined life isn't worth living.
User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 960 times:

Quoting TWFirst (Reply 10):
What I don't understand is why no one is calling for the kid's mother to be put in jail.

That is the big question....why hasn't she been approached by DCFS?


User currently offlineMdsh00 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4128 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 938 times:

Though I personally think he's guilty, I think he'll get away from the most serious charges against him. The prosecution didn't do a good job of making their case.


"Look Lois, the two symbols of the Republican Party: an elephant, and a big fat white guy who is threatened by change."
User currently offlineLogan22L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 925 times:

Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 3):
and others (Sinatra, Cliff Richard, the Rolling Stones) stay well and healthy til they're at least 75.

Thank you.

Signed,

Keith Richards


User currently offlineCORULEZ05 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 918 times:

I'm willing to put money on a not guilty verdict. So, all the anticipation and speculation is just pointless because everyone knows he will NOT be serving any time. Oh and as for the news media, it is truly sad that they have these 24 hour reports on what is going on yet there is NOTHING to report on so they just sit there and speculate...sad sad sad.

User currently offlineFRAspotter From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2360 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 917 times:

Even though I think that MJ is guilty and that he should go to prison, I think he is going to get off... If it is taking the jury 7+ days to come up with a vedict, that's almost never a good thing for the prosecution...


"Drunk drivers run stop signs. Stoners wait for them to turn green."
User currently offlineSeptember11 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3623 posts, RR: 21
Reply 16, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 912 times:

I would not label Michael Jackson as a child molester. I do not think he molested a boy but he did spend a lot of his time with small boys, too many of them. lol. That is what he likes. No one knows for sure what he did do with the boys, only Michael Jackson and "his" boys.


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User currently offlineJamesbuk From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 3968 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 900 times:

the fact about michael jackson is that hes a 40 year old man. i was explaining it to friends at school and i said its like your dad sleeping with your mate its not right and its not acceptable. the thing about this trial is that people want to make him poor and suffer like everyone else in the world
its a word vs word case and should be chucked out of court for lack of evidence as there isnt any evidence. michael should admit sleeping with boys is wrong and let it be and let him do what he does best and sing



You cant have your cake and eat it... What the hells the point in having it then!!!
User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40035 posts, RR: 74
Reply 18, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 897 times:

What ever comes out of this, I really hope that Michael Jackson gets some mental help. Just look at him. As strange as he looks on the outside, just imagine what's going on in the inside.

I think he needs mental help more than anything.

I am not legal expert but is it possible that he could be found guilty yet get a light sentence without any jail time?
There have been case of people being convicted for murder and get a small fine of $500.



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineTAM1079 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 92 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 885 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 18):
What ever comes out of this, I really hope that Michael Jackson gets some mental help. Just look at him. As strange as he looks on the outside, just imagine what's going on in the inside.

I think he needs mental help more than anything.

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This is EXACTLY what needs to happen. The man definitely has some serious mental health issues that should be addressed first. But..That does not make him any less of a predator, and pedophile. If you guys deny that...you are sticking your head in the sand. He has all the qualities and characteristics of a child molester. Period. Lets hope he gets the help he needs. Who knows..maybe he can come back agian after he has done his due time.


User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 20, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 879 times:

I do hate it when I read people terming acquittal verdicts as the accused "getting off". It's an automatic assumption that someone is guilty just because they're charged, and that they've got away with it. How on earth can anyone who hasn't been in court definitively say he's guilty? Not guilty means not guilty, and if that's what comes out, then you have to accept it for what it is. I know it's idealistic, but there we are. Otherwise the implication is that the jury are stupid.


She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
User currently offlineTAM1079 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 92 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 875 times:

Quoting Banco (Reply 20):
Otherwise the implication is that the jury are stupid.

Well....you said it...  flamed 


User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 22, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 869 times:

Quoting TAM1079 (Reply 21):
Well....you said it...

Your compatriots, not mine.  Wink



She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40035 posts, RR: 74
Reply 23, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 869 times:

Quoting TAM1079 (Reply 19):
But..That does not make him any less of a predator, and pedophile. If you guys deny that...you are sticking your head in the sand.

Agreed.

Quoting TAM1079 (Reply 19):
He has all the qualities and characteristics of a child molester.

Is he a Trekkie? Big grin
(Star Treck fan)

Quoting TAM1079 (Reply 19):
Who knows..maybe he can come back agian after he has done his due time.

I don't know man. I have his last two albums and I think it's time for him to hang it up.  Silly



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineTAM1079 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 92 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 855 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 23):
Is he a Trekkie?

He IS strange enough...so that added to the rest of the weirdness wouldn't surprise me.  scratchchin 

Quoting Superfly (Reply 23):
I don't know man. I have his last two albums and I think it's time for him to hang it up

Who knows...with all this stress of the trail, it could be a creative outlet for him. Maybe his best work ever...  liar 
Otherwise..hes just gonna go  bouncy  right back to little boys. It will just be another cycle if he gets off. Maybe part of the mental health work would be creating another album. Come back as super star...probably not, but maybe as a has been. Hasn't Cher been retiring for years now? He could pull a Celine, and have his own show in vegas for decades to come?!?!? Just in idea..


25 S12PPL : One of two things could happen in my mind... One, he'll be found not guilty, because the Jury can't believe a word the mother has said thus far. Two,
26 Superfly : TAM1079: I don't think he can make the same kind of comeback as those you've mentioned. Child molestation is the worse thing someone can be accused of
27 Biggles : The Freak should be locked up in a zoo. But,like OJ,MJ has enough money to cheat justice..
28 Post contains images Superfly : Nah, he'll have access to young boys at the zoo.
29 TAM1079 : Superfly, Its just all wishful thinking on my part. I personally think he is guilty as sin, and definitely won't make a comeback. This touches close t
30 ConcordeBoy : In N.America, yes, as it's long-since been.... the dude can still sell big in Europe and Asia though, as recent attempts have shown. Gloria Allred di
31 Post contains images TAM1079 : BWAHAHAHAHA Hillarious!!! I can just hear the rythm now. And Barney? OUCH...thats so wrong its beautiful! **Bow chica bow wow, chica chica bow woow!*
32 Airlinelover : What I wonder is how they found enough "impartial" jury members for this. Everyone HAS to have had some opinion on it, one way or another.. Same with
33 TWFirst : BUT... that's not the way our system of justice works. The defense did a great job of questioning the credibility and honesty of both the mother and
34 Post contains images TAM1079 : Me....nah. I just love little boys who get off on world domination. Stewie @ 30 =Young Leather Daddy with a paddle.
35 Post contains images Superfly : HEY WATCH IT! the 70s was the greatest time ever! TAM1079: Excellent post and I agree 100%. I hope your frined managed to recover and live a normal l
36 Post contains images TAM1079 : Thanks Fly, Yeah..hes cool now. Took him a bit to get over it. But hes pretty "normal" now. Hes rather eccentric...but back to normal eccentric. I agr
37 EmiratesA345 : If you don't think you need help, then getting help will not benefit you. It would be a waste of money and time. Mark
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