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Tell Me Why This WTC Collapse Conjecture Is Wrong  
User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8507 posts, RR: 12
Posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3043 times:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/reynolds/reynolds12.html

I'm not into conspiracy theories, but I think this man does raise some interesting points. And he's certainly highly qualified.



Can anyone document any real wrongs in his essay, excepting the (to me, somewhat snide) implicit suggestions that there are 2 757s and 2 767s that were supposedly destroyed, and yet might be around somewhere?

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User currently offlineTPASXM787 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1730 posts, RR: 19
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3028 times:

This guy and the asshole from CU must be good friends.

So what were the aircraft that crashed (that we have all seen over and over again and my cousin witnessed in person?)

Sure looked like a 757 and a 767 to me.

Only a extremist would suggest that the government is behind this. Doesn't this guy have anything better to do...as much of a genius as Bush is, I'm sure he and the boys sat in the Oval Office and said wow, I've got an idea! Let's blow up the WTC and kill 3,000 people! Cabinet: What a great f*cking idea!

Come on.



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User currently offlineFutureualpilot From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2602 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3011 times:

"A Boeing 767 has a wingspan of 155’ 1" (47.6 m) yet the maximum distance across the hole in the North Tower was about 115 feet (35 m), a hole undersized by some 40 feet or 26 percent. "The last few feet at the tips of the wings did not even break through the exterior columns," comments Hufschmid (p. 27). But 20 feet on each wing? I’d call that a substantial difference, not "the last few feet," especially since aircraft impact holes tend to be three times the size of the aircraft, reflecting the fact that fuel-laden airliners flying into buildings send things smashing about in a big way. The small size of the holes in both towers casts doubt on the airliner-impact hypothesis and favors professional demolition again. There were no reports of plane parts, especially wings, shorn off in the collision and bounced to the ground on the northeast side of the tower, to my knowledge, though FEMA reported a few small pieces to the south at Church street (pp. 68–9) and atop WTC-5 to the east of WTC-1."

The UA 767 hit the WTC in a bank, so the whole aircraft went into the tower. HAd it hit wings level, the ends of the wings might have been torn off, but Im not sure. Also, what about the video showing the aircraft impact the tower? And the people that never returned home that day? Where are they?


"Adding to the problems of the official theory is the fact that photos of the North Tower hole show no evidence of a plane either. There is no recognizable wreckage or plane parts at the immediate crash site."

Give me a break...the aircraft hit at hundreds of miles per hour...it isnt going to make a hole in the shape of the plane like a cartoon. Its going to essentially be completley destroyed upon impact. Look at UA flt. 93...how much of that crash was recognizeable?

"First, no steel-framed skyscraper, even engulfed in flames hour after hour, had ever collapsed before. Suddenly, three stunning collapses occur within a few city blocks on the same day, two allegedly hit by aircraft, the third not."

How many of those buildings had jet-A adding to the fires?

"If we put the murder of 2,749 innocent victims momentarily aside, the only unusual technical feature of the collapses of the twin towers was that the explosions began at the top, immediately followed by explosions from below. WTC-7, by contrast, was entirely conventional, imploding from bottom up."

Never mind the 2749 people who didnt return home that day, or the 4 aircraft no longer flying, or the pilots and Flight Attendants, or the passengers on board. If the WTC was all demolition, where are the people on the aircraft, and the crews and pax?

I think this guy is nuts, perhaps just trying to get attention or  stirthepot .

[Edited 2005-06-11 20:10:07]


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User currently offlineDelta717 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 457 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3007 times:

George W. Bush is too dumb to think up a plan this complex.

User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3004 times:

Thread Title: Tell Me Why This WTC Collpase Conjecture Is Wrong

Firstly, because it was posted to LewRockwell.com.

Quoting MD-90 (Thread starter):
I'm not into conspiracy theories

Then why post this drivel.

Quoting MD-90 (Thread starter):
but I think this man does raise some interesting points.

I think the author is off his rocker.

Every couple months some fruit loop comes up with a theory about how no planes hit anything and how we bombed our own buildings and how planes disappeared and all the passengers are hidden in a bunker in a desert somewhere and on and on and on.

It's preposterous.

The fact that you even read this noise doesn't bode well for you.

Good day.


User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 5988 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2975 times:

Quoting Futureualpilot (Reply 2):
"First, no steel-framed skyscraper, even engulfed in flames hour after hour, had ever collapsed before. Suddenly, three stunning collapses occur within a few city blocks on the same day, two allegedly hit by aircraft, the third not."

I won't bother going to the site to see if he even mentions the fireproofing that was either a) non-existing or b) completely torn off the steel pillars inside each tower. Take a steel bar, put a weight on top of it & engulf the whole thing in flames - I'm ready to take a bet that the steel bar will bend at some point & eventually snap once the weight on top is too big. And then you're dealing with an avalance of mass going, down on the steel bars on the floors below increasing the stress to a point where they snap and so forth.


User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2961 times:

That website seems to be more interested in selling books instead of producing new evidence.

User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2931 times:

Quoting Delta717 (Reply 3):
George W. Bush is too dumb to think up a plan this complex.

But Dick Cheney and Karl Rove aren't?

Quote:
From: http://www.lewrockwell.com/reynolds/reynolds12.html
In the case of the South Tower, an engine from UAL Flight 175 (tail number N612UA and FAA-registered as still valid!) has not been recovered despite the fact that the flight trajectory of the video plane implied that the right engine would miss the South Tower.

This guy is totally WHACKED!!! How many different angles showed both engines of both planes going into the towers? As a matter of fact I'm positive that there was engine debris all over the place (maybe not from that one). However, the consideration by this moron should have been that the engine went down with the building and disintegrated. Why would we 'hide' an engine in this scenario? The fact he points to the reg as being valid shows he's desperately grasping at straws..


User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2914 times:

You of all people, MD90, should keep quiet about this kind of stuff...FBI anyone?


Go big or go home
User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 5988 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2910 times:

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 7):
But Dick Cheney and Karl Rove aren't?

To be honest - no planning was needed for this one. It was all a matter of ignoring all the information that was given to them (such as the now infamous PDB), and letting things take their course.


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2903 times:

Quoting CPH-R" class=quote target=_blank>CPH-R (Reply 9):
It was all a matter of ignoring all the information that was given to them

Yup, just like Slick Willie did, huh CPH-R?  sarcastic 


User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2899 times:


To be honest - no planning was needed for this one. It was all a matter of ignoring all the information that was given to them (such as the now infamous PDB), and letting things take their course.


Hindsight is always 20/20, and the previous administration had many of the same warnings and opportunities to apprehend those responible. They are not accountable, nor is current administration, and saying otherwise is just taking advantage of facts we now know, which were not known then.

Harry



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User currently offlineBRAVO7E7 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 1840 posts, RR: 17
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2879 times:

Quoting CPH-R (Reply 9):

To be honest - no planning was needed for this one. It was all a matter of ignoring all the information that was given to them (such as the now infamous PDB), and letting things take their course.

No shit Sherlock! You must work for Scotland Yards. Anyway, I did not see you post this back in May of 2001 when you joined. What gives?


User currently offlineB757300 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4114 posts, RR: 23
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2841 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 4):
Thread Title: Tell Me Why This WTC Collpase Conjecture Is Wrong

Firstly, because it was posted to LewRockwell.com.

Anything from LewRockwell should be dismissed out of hand. The guy is a kook of the highest order. He is no different than the kooks on the DailyKos or DemocraticUnderground. They all believe in the wildest conspiracy theories and usually try to blame the President for every problem in the world today.

Quoting CPH-R (Reply 9):
To be honest - no planning was needed for this one. It was all a matter of ignoring all the information that was given to them (such as the now infamous PDB), and letting things take their course.

Did you every read the PDB that you're babbling about? It was the same one that the 9-11 commission whined about because they thought it was the smoking gun they could use to blame the President. It was nothing but generalized information that did not mention anything specific and there is no way anyone could have realized from "Osama wants to attack the U.S." meant that a few weeks later some jihad crazy Islamists would fly airliners into buildings. Of course don't let reality get in the way of your hated for President Bush.



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User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2828 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 10):
Yup, just like Slick Willie did,

How many Tomahawk missions did George senior authorize with the intent to kill bin laden? 0 hummm
Mr. Lie about a BJ boy... 1

I think I'll stick with the liar on this one..


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2823 times:

Quoting B757300 (Reply 13):
Anything from LewRockwell should be dismissed out of hand. The guy is a kook of the highest order.

Gee, ya think so!?  crazy 

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 14):
How many Tomahawk missions did George senior authorize with the intent to kill bin laden? 0 hummm
Mr. Lie about a BJ boy... 1

I think I'll stick with the liar on this one..

And Teddy, your point?

Wow, one whole cruise missile . . . man, he really outdid himself huh!  sarcastic 


User currently offlineTPASXM787 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1730 posts, RR: 19
Reply 16, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2816 times:

Wow, one whole cruise missile . . . man, he really outdid himself huh!

>>Come on now, ANC. Those were expensive. He was busy ....errrrrr....balancing the budget....  sarcastic 



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User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2787 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 15):
Wow, one whole cruise missile

It's one more then GW's DADDY did so I think you need to give it up... Speaking of which how's GW's search for Bin Laden going???


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2781 times:

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 17):
It's one more then GW's DADDY did so I think you need to give it up..

You still need to make a point, Teddy . . . give it another shot.

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 17):
Speaking of which how's GW's search for Bin Laden going

OBL is rotting under some rubble in a cave somewhere. Produce something to the contrary that says he's alive and well . . . and getting his dialysis . . . and I might believe differently.


User currently offlineTrekster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2749 times:

HAVE A READ!!

http://www.lewrockwell.com/reynolds/reynolds12.html

My name is Daniel Higgins, and i live in the United Kindgom.

I have just read some comments in this web site, and was wondering if u could answer a few quick questions. I dont expect a reply, but some stuff in there really got me a bit annoyed and was wondering if u could help me sort my mind out.

1)In the case of the South Tower, an engine from UAL Flight 175 has not been recovered despite the fact that the flight trajectory of the video plane implied that the right engine would miss the South Tower. My question here is [From the video i have seen,and i was watching it live, and from many different angles on other TV stations, there is no way that the planes (both of them) would have in any way missed hitting the towers totaly. The first one impacted with such force as it was coming in low from a dive that of course there would have been very little debri as it would have been tataly destroyed when it hit the tower. Can u answer that for me as im having alot of trouble with it

2)The familiar photo of the Flight 93 crash site in Pennsylvania (The 9/11 Commission Report, Ch. 9) shows no fuselage, engine or anything recognizable as a plane, just a smoking hole in the ground
[Well this is do not understand at all??? Im known by my friends as being a bit morbid and love good mystery when a plane crashes, even have quiet good collection of books on the matter,and look at a few websites now and again. If a plane, full of fuel,nose dives into solid ground, of course there is going to be hardly anything left of it. If u look at sites on air crashes, u will see there have been loads of crashes where there is just a scary on the ground, and very little left of the plane. Some examples from just one book, look them up (6oct1955 UAL DC4 REG N30062)(ALLEGHENY AIRLINES DC9 9 SEP1969 REG N988VJ)(aeromexico dc9 31aug1986 reg xa-jed) and many others. These are just some from a book i have that show pics (AVIATION DISASTERS by David Gero (ISBN number 1-85260-379-8) so you can see what im on about

3)You mention a few times that the towers collapse was unexpected. I doubt when the towers were first built anyone in there right mind would think a group of terrorists intent on casuing harm would ON PURPOSE fly a few jets into the sides of the building full of fuel as both had taken off within minites of each other from local NYC airports. How knows what was going on on those floors at the impact. Yes we saw smoke, yes we saw holes, but did we see inside, and the damage done when the planes sliced into the sides,at speeds in excess of 300mph.

Im an avid Aviation lover, and the happenings on that day greatly affected me, as did it to the whole world (nearly)

I can not, even under the worst leader ever) see a president or leader ORDER, that a number of buildings with people in them be demolised (how can a demolition crew setup without other people noticing by the way) and that 4 planes full of people by crashed (or moved to secure locations and never seen again) How do u account for all the calls from loved ones, the flt attendents on the AA flt, and numerous other flts that paid credit to there jobs by beingc alm and helping as best they could.

You may think im some strange 24 year old brit with nothing else to do but annoy, but i would be very happy if u could answer some of the points you have made in this website.

I dontthink i will get a response from you, but it would be nice to get something back, even its a sorry, no comment.

I await your reply

Daniel Higgins
Manchester, United Kingdom


RIGHT, I AM SO ANNOYED AT ALL THIS CRAP SAID THATI HAVE SENT HIM A EMAIL FROM THE LINK IN THE WEBSITE. NOW AWAITING A RESPONSE. DONT THINK I WILL GET ONE, BUT IM SO ANNOYED RIGHT NOW HAD TO DO SOMETHING

Trekster


User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2720 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 18):
You still need to make a point, Teddy

Two points
1. only women call me 'teddy'
2. From: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/05/20050527.html
"In Pakistan, one of Osama Bin Laden's senior terrorist leaders, a man named al-Libbi, was brought to justice."

Now I KNOW Georgie has language issues, but how can we arrest/"Bring to justice" someone who is "one of Osama Bin Laden's senior terrorist leaders" if Osama is Dead?

If Osama's so "dead", why are we still looking for him?


User currently offlineBMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 58
Reply 21, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2703 times:

Quoting CPH-R (Reply 5):
Take a steel bar, put a weight on top of it & engulf the whole thing in flames - I'm ready to take a bet that the steel bar will bend at some point & eventually snap once the weight on top is too big. And then you're dealing with an avalance of mass going, down on the steel bars on the floors below increasing the stress to a point where they snap and so forth.

That is correct yes.

Quoting Trekster (Reply 19):

Good email! Big grin



Lee



Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own
User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2701 times:

Quoting AA61Hvy (Reply 8):
You of all people, MD90, should keep quiet about this kind of stuff...FBI anyone?

If A 707 Hit The World Trade Center?...


User currently offlineTrekster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2697 times:

Doubt i will get a reply at all,

But relived a lot of tension after reading that drival  

EDIT: Just re-read the email, a few spelling mistakes in there, was so annoyed did not re-read it,just copied it here and sent lol

[Edited 2005-06-12 03:03:06]

User currently offlineGoCOgo From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 701 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2687 times:

I hate it when non-engineers try to pick apart forensic engineering reports. It is clear they, including this idiot, no nothing. He seems to be under the impression that steel is some magical material that won't ever fail.

He lost me at "I find this theory just about as satisfying as the fantastic conspiracy theory that "19 young Arabs acting at the behest of Islamist extremists headquartered in distant Afghanistan" caused 9/11." I find that pretty satisfying, so he is right, it is just as satisfying.



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25 SlamClick : Easily. But why bother? In nearly every paragraph he makes very questionable assertions. Without even having an engineering education I could shred t
26 Theredbaron : Ill make a question I hope you can give me the answer. We know the horrendous attacks of that dreadful day, we know that the smoldering fire and the s
27 Post contains images Silver1SWA : This stuff REALLY pisses me off. And the thing I hate about these people that believe this crap is, when you don't agree with them, they say you just
28 MD-90 : I also think it's rather stupid of him to try and deny that aircraft hit the towers. But why did WTC 7 collapse, since it wasn't hit by any aircraft a
29 Post contains images Springbok747 : What a load of crap. Looks like this dude doesn't have anything better to do in his spare time. Nice e-mail there Trekster Wonder if you'll ever get a
30 Post contains images Boeing4ever : You do realize that all that cruise missile ended up destroying was a pharmaceutical plant right? Hindsight is 20/20...all of America's complacency i
31 CPH-R : Gee, perhaps pbecause the PDB, with the interesting title "Terroists determined to strike the US", a) wasn't made until august 2001 & b) wasn't relea
32 Post contains images CPH-R : ..Bin Ladin implied in US television interviews in 1997 and 1998 that his followers would follow the example of World Trade Center bomber Ramzi Youse
33 Post contains images Boeing Nut : MD90, Welcome to my disrespected users list. Fire is what actually brought this building down as well. There was a large kerosene fuel tank under the
34 OzGuy : This paper comes in a close second for the biggest load of sh*t ever made award. The only thing I can think of that was more ambiguous was that stupid
35 Post contains links Boeing Nut : MD90, Better yet, read fact in stead of fiction. http://www.popularmechanics.com/scie...ce/defense/1227842.html?page=1&c=y Get to page 5 for the real
36 Espion007 : Ive been to the WTC site twice and WTC 7 is pretty damn close. It would be impossible for it not to be covered in the burning debris from the other t
37 Post contains images NonRevKing : Yes he did actually. He had credible evidence of OBL's location and made a long distance strike, not putting our troops in harms way because it wasn'
38 ANCFlyer : Look, NonRevKing, this poor attempt to defend a Pres Clinton's attempt to strike OBL is laughable at best. . . on flippin missile at a target thousan
39 Post contains images Boeing4ever : No offense OzGuy, but that powerpoint was correct. The White House didn't get a scratch on 9/11. Seriously, I know you're referring to that Pentagon
40 Post contains images ANCFlyer : And don't forget the black souped up Chevy Caprices also . . . Gotta have them ya know I may be mistaken and if so, apologies to whomever - but I thi
41 Post contains images Boeing Nut : Why Did the Trade Center Skyscrapers Collapse? Gee, you think maybe because two aircraft weighing over 150 TONS carrying nearly 100,000 bls of Jet A-1
42 MD11Engineer : If I remember correctly, after Somalia, it was highly unpopular with the American public to risk the lives of soldiers and it has been argued that an
43 Post contains images ANCFlyer : You're only 75% correct, Jan. It was highly unpopular with the American public to risk the lives of soldiers unnecessarily. Had Clinton and the Admin
44 MD-90 : Judging from the resulting damage, and the heat of burning Jet-A, the towers should not have collapsed. They were designed with 600% redundant streng
45 TedTAce : Maybe this one does deserve the WTC 'shock' picture I used (by accident) on another thread...
46 Post contains images ANCFlyer : First, you could have posted the ENTIRE quote, as I did apologize in advance as I couldn't remember exactly where the link came from . . . it does fi
47 Boeing Nut : My God man, you actually believe this tripe?! OK, A) - more damage possibly, holding as much weight? No. B) - others having fires that burned longer
48 Post contains images Boeing4ever : And just how the hell were those explosives placed!? Do you have any idea what it takes to prep a building for demolition!? Oh, I get it, the evil De
49 Post contains images J.mo : TedTAce, Iraq is supposed to divert your attention (and 100,000+ troops) away from the War on Terrorism and the search for Osama. Pay attention. Jerem
50 Post contains images TedTAce : Sorry, I'm using the Bush memos to wipe my A$$ and light campfires to keep the family warm at night, not enough time to read them before I 'allocate'
51 MD-90 : At least this "nieve" 21 year old knows how to spell "naive." And "capice" as well as "innards." You expect me to take you seriously when you have di
52 Post contains links and images Boeing4ever : You expect anyone to take you seriously when you subscribe to BS like this article you posted? And guess what, the government DIDN'T come out innocen
53 OzGuy : lol, my bad. Guess I should try proof reading my posts...
54 Post contains links Cairo : As to the idea that the jets alone could not have done the damage to WTC: "Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750°F).
55 Post contains links and images Boeing Nut : OH - - - - MY - - - GOD!!!!! This proves what they say - you can't cure stupid. And you expect me to take you seriously when you can't do something a
56 Post contains images Boeing Nut : (God I wish I could let this go.......) Next time you see a show on the discovery channel about implosions, just watch when they take down a large bui
57 Dan2002 : If an explosion caused the clouds of dust, that would have to be one massive explosion ,and the debris area would be more widespread. Plus, where are
58 BristolFlyer : I'm kind of kicking myself already for responding to a such a post. It's all such a load of bs. For example: "especially since aircraft impact holes t
59 Post contains links Boeing Nut : I'd say this hole looks to small for a B-25 that flew into the Empire State Building. Another theory by the conspirators shot down.
60 ANCFlyer : I vote we put them all aboard a 767 and let them test their Hole in the Building theory personally. . . .
61 Post contains links Dan2002 : Heres another link to some articles about the collapse http://www.icivilengineer.com/News/WTC/structure.php?page=2 I also started a forum aways back w
62 Post contains images NonRevKing : Bush did the exact same thing before Gulf 2. B
63 Post contains images NUair : Wow pretty good article... and pics. It must have been a crazy day in NY. "The saga of engine number two is just as dramatic. It, too, broke loose fr
64 Post contains links Dtwclipper : Here is another crazy theory: http://www.whale.to/b/911b.html Some people would agree that we a-netters have too much time on our hands, but these guy
65 BristolFlyer : Hang on, is this your own website? According to your a.net details it is your homepage. Are you posting this drivel with links for your own benefit?
66 B744F : This stuff is junk. The only real questions are what the government knew but did nothing about. Such as the CIA not following leads, the administratio
67 MD-90 : BristolFlyer, if you would kindly bother to go look, you'd note that it is clearly not my website.
68 Post contains images Boeing4ever : And that's it...after proudly strutting around proclaiming that the WTC was brought down by explosives and supplying your misinformed scientific "pro
69 Post contains images ANCFlyer :
70 TedTAce : Why hasn't this thread been locked deleted?!?! I'd gladly get a 'housekeeping deletion notice' for this post if it means the whole thread goes away...
71 Post contains images Boeing4ever : Actually, I think it should stand as a lesson to others...and I still await MD-90's attempt at a response to all the common sense scientific facts out
72 Newark777 : Yes, I can see a lock on this thread on the horizon... Harry
73 Post contains links and images Boeing Nut : Homepage: http://www.lewrockwell.com If there is one thing I can't stand...... it's a hypocrite.
74 MD-90 : Since both of you, Boeing Nut and Boeing4ever, and clearly unwilling to even attempt to discuss this rationally, I'm not going to bother. I don't thin
75 Post contains images Boeing4ever : You believe that the government somehow planted demolition charges in the WTC and used them to bring the towers down on 9/11 and you're going to lect
76 Boeing Nut : MD90, Alright, I will attempt to discuss this rationally. The problem is you contradict yourself right off the bat by saying that you are not into co
77 BristolFlyer : The reason I haven't been to the website is not that I can't be bothered, it's that I don't want to support an organisation that peddles such a load
78 Boeing Nut : Let me rephrase that. It's an insult to any anyone that knows the real truth.
79 Post contains images AA61Hvy :
80 MD-90 : I most certainly do not. Nah, not very much energy. And you're implying that I believe said conspiracy theories. I do not.
81 BristolFlyer : Ok, you've said the following things: 'Tell Me Why This WTC Collapse Conjecture Is Wrong' 'I'm not into conspiracy theories, but I think this man doe
82 FDXMECH : Some valid points made here. On the other hand, I'm trying to writing a book alleging 2 + 2 = 17.
83 Post contains images Garri767 : LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
84 B2707SST : If a labor economist is now qualified to make "expert" pronouncements on structural engineering, this financial analyst had better get down to the hos
85 Post contains images Boeing4ever : You most certainly DID... Tryin' to pull a George Bush now? (the war in Iraq was about liberation, never about WMD ) B4e-Forever New Frontiers
86 Post contains images Boeing Nut : OK, I tried. Guys, let's not bother responding to MD90 anymore because he, himself, doesn't understand what he is talking about. He can't decide "whic
87 Post contains images Boeing4ever : So he pulled a George W. Bush AND a John Kerry. Wow. B4e-Forever New Frontiers
88 MD-90 : It's probably the most poorly reasoned article I've ever read on lewrockwell.com.
89 Post contains images Boeing Nut : Then why in hell did you bother posting it??
90 MD-90 : That's exactly why. It felt wrong, and was poorly reasoned, and I wondered if any A.net users who had researched this subject more than I had could en
91 Post contains images TedTAce : Does this mean this thread is dead now?!?!?!    [Edited 2005-06-16 05:30:34]
92 MD11Engineer : Ok, guys. I used to have a blasting ticket for demolitions, though I let it expire 2 years ago (I´m willing to show my expired licence to Pilot Kaz,
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