Wardialer From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1155 posts, RR: 0 Posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 837 times:
The overall economy seems to be heading upward says economist. Including the worldwide economy. The dollar rate in Europe is shifting torwards a positive aspect, 500,000 new jobs are expected to shape up. The Bush Administration seems to do a great overall job as former President Bill Clinton did.
The overall nations crime rate has dropped to 87%. Because the fact that people have more jobs than ever before.
Wardialer From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1155 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 830 times:
And one thing that bugs me is that the fact that our troops are being killed and ambushed everyday in Iraq and we us Americans do not give a damn about it. I never hear the media anymore speaking about the war anymore. Its like were giving our fellow troops the cold shoulder....
EA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 12562 posts, RR: 64 Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 826 times:
The overall economy seems to be heading upward says economist.
Care to expand on that? What economist? Can you link a source so we can read his or her report for ourselves?
Thanks.
"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem - government IS the problem." - Ronald Reagan
Wardialer From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1155 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 807 times:
Im just a messenger, With no names mentioned, I heard it on some radio show...
But, anyone care to expand on my last paragraph? Its like nobody seems to care anymore about our fellow troops...
Homer71 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2209 posts, RR: 17 Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 776 times:
The media doesn't reflect the general feelings of our citizens. Just because they're not reporting the war as much, it doesn't mean we, as people, are ignoring the troops.
There are drives (and in our office) to send personal care items to Iraq and Afghanistan; at airports, you still see ordinary travellers (and TSA screeners) applauding when a soldier arrives to meet family/friends; at church, there are still prayers spoken for the troops overseas.
"On spaceship earth there are no passengers...only crew."
CaptOveur From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 769 times:
The reason you don't see the media report on the war anymore is the fact things aren't going to shit anymore, so they have nothing to report on. Success doesn't sell papers, dead Americans do. This is not supposed to be a war debate thread though. As far as objective news sources go "The Economist" is one of the leaders.
Maybe, just maybe Bush isn't the horrid President so many of you want to think he is.
My stock portfolio seems to think things are going ok.. The markets are all rising, slowly but rising, employment is in the mid 90s (about as good as it ever gets). What more do you really want?
Greyhound From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1026 posts, RR: 2 Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 766 times:
Superfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 38511 posts, RR: 80 Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 755 times:
Wardialer:
Who is this "Economist"?
Sorry but the guy you crack jokes with in the break room may call himself an Economist but his/her opinion who ever that is doesn't qualify.
Luv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 11957 posts, RR: 51 Reply 15, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 752 times:
What relative of Bush's is the economist in question?
Dvk From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1058 posts, RR: 1 Reply 16, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 750 times:
No, Bush is still horrid, and the war is still feculent. The daily car bombs blowing up 20 people here and 50 people there are so routine now that they aren't news anymore. That's why the media mentions them virtually in passing.
You must be a much better investor than my mutual funds, Captoveur, because, while some of mine have recovered reasonably well, others still have quite a way to go.
Employment in the 90's sounds good at first glance, but it's well-documented that most of the new jobs created recently are not much better than minimum wage. Since minimum wage hasn't come close to keeping up with inflation, it's not really a living wage, therefore, the employment numbers aren't as good as they look on the surface.
I'm not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information.
L410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5394 posts, RR: 19 Reply 18, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 716 times:
Quoting CaptOveur (Reply 10): The reason you don't see the media report on the war anymore is the fact things aren't going to shit anymore, so they have nothing to report on.
Yeah, even that old creep Rumsfeld admits that things are seriously f**ked up in Iraq - thanks to his and Bush's mismanaged occupation.
ANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 19, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 702 times:
Quoting Wardialer (Reply 1): And one thing that bugs me is that the fact that our troops are being killed and ambushed everyday in Iraq and we us Americans do not give a damn about it. I never hear the media anymore speaking about the war anymore. Its like were giving our fellow troops the cold shoulder....
You need to get out more apparently.
If you're relying solely on the media for news on whether or not the American public is backing the troops you lose from the get go!
I can't speak for every state, or every municipality, but I know of no group more respected in Anchorage than a Veteran, active or retired . . .
B744F From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 681 times:
If you think running the country into the ground by allowing China and Japan to buy up all the debt, raise military spending to cold war levels, run the nation debt from breaking even in a few years to possibly 7+ trillion dollar deficit and ontop of that cutting taxes which are the ONLY way the government can pay its bills without having to turn to more bond selling and federal reserve protect the wealthy tactics, demanding legislation that limits Constitutional freedoms, sending young men and women off to die in two countries against enemies we once fully supported costing billions each month, ignoring the real tragedies such as the Indonesian Tsunami and the continuing horror in Africa and other countries while stuffing the pockets of the donor class, is doing a good job and as good as Clinton, then I'd say you are not worthy of the title you received from college. Let's talk in 10 years when America is a 3rd world country while Japan and China duke it out in the superpower fight because of the actions of now and previous administrations (including Clinton) who fail to address the true issues.
B744F From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 679 times:
Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 19): You need to get out more apparently.
If you're relying solely on the media for news on whether or not the American public is backing the troops you lose from the get go!
I can't speak for every state, or every municipality, but I know of no group more respected in Anchorage than a Veteran, active or retired . . .
So instead of listening to professionals let's listen to Billy Bob and his questioning of his fellow citizens who live within a few miles from him! Good idea!
Jetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7336 posts, RR: 52 Reply 22, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 664 times:
Quoting Wardialer (Reply 1): And one thing that bugs me is that the fact that our troops are being killed and ambushed everyday in Iraq and we us Americans do not give a damn about it. I never hear the media anymore speaking about the war anymore. Its like were giving our fellow troops the cold shoulder....
It is. The same hateful poeple that fought us domestically during Vietnam are the same one doing today. You know it's sad, that in Iwo Jima we lost over 7,000 soldiers and sailors in one month of fighting the Japanese. That was for one island. We thounsands upon thousands in Midway, Ardens, Guadalcanal, the Coral Sea. That was a war where the enemy was seen. And in almost 2.5 years in Iraq and Afghanistan we've lost about 1,700. This to an enemy that we cannot see, we don't know where they are. Now before you jump all over this, yes a human life is a human life. But war is what you train for when you're in the military. That's what you're signing up for. You're pledging to defend the US against ALL enemies, foreign and domestic. I'm flabergasted when I turn on the news and see a girl or boy, in a state of shock when they're shipping out. It's not about college money at that point. When I signed my name on the dotted line(3 times, mind you), I knew what I was signing up for. I want the troops home too, but there is a new kind of war out there that has to be fought. Wars are not popular, they never were. Soon the legacy of the WW2 victors will be gone, and the last real war we fought, was one that we lost. We have to win this one. More then you can ever imagine, we have to win this one.
Jaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 23, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 660 times:
The same hateful poeple that fought us domestically during Vietnam are the same one doing today.
What a load of crap.
If it weren't for those "hateful" people calling for an end to the war, the Vietnam Memorial would have been twice as long and twice as high. And as for protesting about chemical warfare in Vietnam, someone had to take a stand. Clearly Johnson and Nixon weren't.
Soon the legacy of the WW2 victors will be gone, and the last real war we fought, was one that we lost. We have to win this one. More then you can ever imagine, we have to win this one.
So we have to win this war just to make you feel good? What happens if we lose it? Start another one?
Btw, we did win 2 wars in the past 15 years - Operation Desert Storm, and the War in Bosnia. Won, I must add, without the loss of a single US Soldier.
Boeing4ever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 24, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 632 times:
Quoting Jaysit (Reply 23): Btw, we did win 2 wars in the past 15 years - Operation Desert Storm, and the War in Bosnia. Won, I must add, without the loss of a single US Soldier.
Ummmmm, no Desert Storm had casulties there lawyer boy...not to mention this "Gulf War Syndrome" that seems to have afflicted a number of vets allegedly. But Desert Storm definately saw US soldiers killed. And not just friendly fire either. Iraq overall got its ass beaten in that conflict, but to say they just stood there, all docile, taking it is a stretch at best.
Unless you meant only Bosnia...I certainly hope so...how disturbing to think that some people believe Desert Storm was a 100% cakewalk...
Jetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7336 posts, RR: 52 Reply 25, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 627 times:
Quoting Jaysit (Reply 23): Btw, we did win 2 wars in the past 15 years - Operation Desert Storm, and the War in Bosnia. Won, I must add, without the loss of a single US Soldier
Desert Storm was hardly a war. It more falls along the line of a conflict. The Iraqi's never even put up a fight. With the odd little skirmish. Bosnia wasn't a war either. It was a UN sponsored peacekeeping mission We flew a few airstrikes from the Adriatic and Aviano AB. Somalia was closer to a war, which we came off looking bad in that one too. I'm proud of what we've done militarily, it's just having to answer to the bleeding hearts in Washington trying to run the war from the floor of congress and not from the frontlines.
Quoting Jaysit (Reply 23): So we have to win this war just to make you feel good? What happens if we lose it? Start another one?
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