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Ketchup E-mail Leaves Lawyer Red-faced  
User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Posted (9 years 2 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 959 times:

Ah. Public humiliation. Serves the tight-fisted git right.  Wink

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.j...pe=oddlyEnoughNews&storyID=8824515


She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
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User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 35
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 948 times:

Ha that was great!!! What a wanker!

User currently offlineTrekster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 938 times:

Read that in the metro on the way to work (to find i was not due in  Sad )
Could see a few others reading it as well, all having a laugh.

Bet he aint a happy chappy at the moment lol


User currently offlineWellHung From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 925 times:

I'm sure he didn't get where he is by paying for other people's mistakes. The attitude that she shouldn't have to pay for screwing up his pants because he makes more money than her is quite despicable. The fact that she forwarded that email raises the possibility that she distributes sensitive and confidential information, as well. I would terminate her immediately.

While the death of a family member is never an easy time, if she was not prepared to focus on work, she should not have returned to the office. I do have sympathy for her because of the loss of her mother, but not for the pants.


User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 915 times:

Oh, for God's sake! It's four quid. Demanding payment when someone accidentally gets a few spots of ketchup on them is just pathetic. He deserves everything he gets.


She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
User currently offlineWellHung From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 905 times:

Quoting Banco (Reply 4):
Oh, for God's sake! It's four quid.

If "it's only four quid", then what's the problem with her paying it? People need to start taking respoinsibility for their actions, no matter what their title is.

[Edited 2005-06-17 19:59:03]

User currently offlinePope From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 873 times:

Quoting Banco (Reply 4):
Oh, for God's sake! It's four quid. Demanding payment when someone accidentally gets a few spots of ketchup on them is just pathetic. He deserves everything he gets.

Funny thing is, I don't think he's legally entitled to it. If it really was just an accident (i.e. the ketchup spattered while being poured), I think he'd be hard pressed to show negligence. Without negligence or a contractual obligations, I don't think his secretary is liable for the event.

Sort of like when a rock gets kicked up by the car in front of you and breaks the windshield.


User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 864 times:

Quoting Banco (Reply 4):
Oh, for God's sake! It's four quid. Demanding payment when someone accidentally gets a few spots of ketchup on them is just pathetic. He deserves everything he gets.

But, with regards to British payments to the EU...

Quoting Banco (Reply 16):
So what? Just because they're small doesn't mean you should pay up without question, let alone when it's a bloated, corrupt, wasteful institution taking the money.

Not that I disagree, but most law firms are wasteful, a lot of lawyers are corrupt and - personal opinion - most of them are bloated.


User currently offlinePendrilsaint From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 685 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 836 times:

It was incredibly rude of him to send the e-mail, but it was also very rude of her not to offer to have the pants dry-cleaned in the first place. I mean if I spilled anything on someone's clothes that I worked with then I would have the decency to offer to dry-clean them. Most normal people would refuse this and just take care of the stain themselves, but still, one should offer!

User currently offline767Lover From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 825 times:

This story never should have made the press.

I don't think the guy is necessarily a jerk. For starters, perhaps the lawyer wasn't aware that her mother had died. It could be a very large firm, she could be some other lawyer's secretary, etc.

Secondly, perhaps there is some history of this woman acting in an irresponsible manner in regards to how she treats people's stuff, and the lawyer is just trying to make her realize that she needs to be more careful. Or perhaps the ketchup stained happened as a result of the secretary getting plastered at a firm function, and he is trying to make her aware of how her behavior affected others.

In my opinion, his email is polite and "matter of fact" and the secretary acted inappropriately. I agree that if she was so emotionally distraught she should not have been at work. What if some client had called to complain about something? Would she have flown off the handle then?


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