WellHung From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 706 times:
I'm sure he didn't get where he is by paying for other people's mistakes. The attitude that she shouldn't have to pay for screwing up his pants because he makes more money than her is quite despicable. The fact that she forwarded that email raises the possibility that she distributes sensitive and confidential information, as well. I would terminate her immediately.
While the death of a family member is never an easy time, if she was not prepared to focus on work, she should not have returned to the office. I do have sympathy for her because of the loss of her mother, but not for the pants.
Banco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 55 Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 696 times:
Oh, for God's sake! It's four quid. Demanding payment when someone accidentally gets a few spots of ketchup on them is just pathetic. He deserves everything he gets.
She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
WellHung From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 686 times:
Quoting Banco (Reply 4): Oh, for God's sake! It's four quid.
If "it's only four quid", then what's the problem with her paying it? People need to start taking respoinsibility for their actions, no matter what their title is.
Pope From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 654 times:
Quoting Banco (Reply 4): Oh, for God's sake! It's four quid. Demanding payment when someone accidentally gets a few spots of ketchup on them is just pathetic. He deserves everything he gets.
Funny thing is, I don't think he's legally entitled to it. If it really was just an accident (i.e. the ketchup spattered while being poured), I think he'd be hard pressed to show negligence. Without negligence or a contractual obligations, I don't think his secretary is liable for the event.
Sort of like when a rock gets kicked up by the car in front of you and breaks the windshield.
777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 645 times:
Quoting Banco (Reply 4): Oh, for God's sake! It's four quid. Demanding payment when someone accidentally gets a few spots of ketchup on them is just pathetic. He deserves everything he gets.
But, with regards to British payments to the EU...
Quoting Banco (Reply 16): So what? Just because they're small doesn't mean you should pay up without question, let alone when it's a bloated, corrupt, wasteful institution taking the money.
Not that I disagree, but most law firms are wasteful, a lot of lawyers are corrupt and - personal opinion - most of them are bloated.
Pendrilsaint From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 685 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 617 times:
It was incredibly rude of him to send the e-mail, but it was also very rude of her not to offer to have the pants dry-cleaned in the first place. I mean if I spilled anything on someone's clothes that I worked with then I would have the decency to offer to dry-clean them. Most normal people would refuse this and just take care of the stain themselves, but still, one should offer!
767Lover From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 606 times:
This story never should have made the press.
I don't think the guy is necessarily a jerk. For starters, perhaps the lawyer wasn't aware that her mother had died. It could be a very large firm, she could be some other lawyer's secretary, etc.
Secondly, perhaps there is some history of this woman acting in an irresponsible manner in regards to how she treats people's stuff, and the lawyer is just trying to make her realize that she needs to be more careful. Or perhaps the ketchup stained happened as a result of the secretary getting plastered at a firm function, and he is trying to make her aware of how her behavior affected others.
In my opinion, his email is polite and "matter of fact" and the secretary acted inappropriately. I agree that if she was so emotionally distraught she should not have been at work. What if some client had called to complain about something? Would she have flown off the handle then?
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