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Bigger Jerks: Fedex Or UPS Drivers?  
User currently offlineWellHung From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 4608 times:

At what cost overnight delivery?

One of the most prevalent of today's road hogs; the overnight parcel delivery vans. They illegally block entire lanes of traffic with not even a warning from authorities. They file through traffic lights like mourners attending a funeral. They clog up main arteries with lard-esque effectiveness.

They may all be nice when it comes to handing the goods to the recipient and getting the signature, but often forgotten is the manner in which these parcels are delivered. When it comes down to it, who are the bigger dicks on the road? (I'm sure our resident funboys will chime in with anecdotal evidence of who HAS bigger, but that's another thread entirely - one I hope to never see). Would you want these people handling YOUR package? (no pun intended)

But I digress. I have to say that UPS douchebags are, in general, FAR less courteous and much more agressive drivers. Now why is this? Is it because they feel empowered by a union affiliation? Maybe the brown uniforms make them look AND drive like pieces of shit.

By no means is this a characterization of ALL UPS drivers and it certainly does not absolve all Fedex drivers of any wrongdoing. While each have their good and their bad, UPS just has far more of the bad. I don't have any affiliation with or loyalty to either of these companies. Please do not bring DHL/Airborne or any other overnight parcel delivery companies into the discussion as their smaller numbers prevent accurate comparison with the big 2. And USPS is not applicable because the delivery vans they use are pretty much go-karts with a roof.

I look forward to your comments and observations.

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User currently offlineSlider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6924 posts, RR: 34
Reply 1, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 4604 times:

Did you hear about the FedEx and UPS merger?

It's going to be called FedUP.

 Smile

Sorry, it's Friday and I'm punchy! Couldn't resist. To be honest, I've never had a problem with either in terms of their driving behavior.


User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 2, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 4598 times:

No qualms over here.



Go big or go home
User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 46
Reply 3, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 4593 times:

Well for what it's worth, FedEx and UPS did not get to be FedEx and UPS by lollygagging around and taking their sweet time. Hey, the deliveries gotta get there.

Now if I could just figure out why they spend so much time and energy wasting their time making residential deliveries during the day, when most people aren't home. They end up leaving those "sorry we missed you" notes and end up coming back to deliver the same freight two or three times. It would seem to me that they could still further improve their bottom line by making deliveries either when people are home, or giving couple-hour ETA's so that people can arrange to be home, or both.


User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8913 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 4577 times:

DHL drivers in the Boston area make FedEx and UPS drivers look good in my opinion...

Jeff


User currently offlineWellHung From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 4572 times:

Quoting Matt D (Reply 3):
FedEx and UPS did not get to be FedEx and UPS by lollygagging around and taking their sweet time.

There's a difference between lollygagging and driving responsibly.

Quoting Matt D (Reply 3):
if I could just figure out why they spend so much time and energy wasting their time making residential deliveries during the day, when most people aren't home

Easy. The idiots who order things have them sent there. Whenever I order something shipped UPS/Fedex or whtever, it is always sent to my business address if I know I won't be home.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40076 posts, RR: 74
Reply 6, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 4550 times:

Quoting Matt D (Reply 3):
It would seem to me that they could still further improve their bottom line by making deliveries either when people are home, or giving couple-hour ETA's so that people can arrange to be home, or both.

re: FedEx
I agree, or at least extend there store hours of operation.
I remember getting those 'sorry we missed you' notes and I was told I could drive all the way down to South San Francisco (near SFO) to pick up my package during there business hours which closes at 5:30 PM.
HELLO!?!?!?
There operation hours are the same as there delivery hours! Also there center to pick up items is way out in no man’s land where nobody lives so getting there doing there operating hours are difficult.

I like UPS much better.
At least there shipping and receiving area is conveniently located in the city and has weekend operating hours. Also UPS uses DC8s and 747 classics  bigthumbsup , better looking livery and best of all, they are Unionized.




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User currently offlineSeptember11 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3623 posts, RR: 21
Reply 7, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 4545 times:

Quoting WellHung (Thread starter):
Fedex drivers

Fedex drivers? How about FedEx pilots?
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FedEx is OK to me, but look at the photo
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Late package LOL

FedEx's scheme on their planes - nice work ..
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I've met UPS drivers -- they are more cool. UPS' scheme on their planes are far better than FedEx's
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User currently offlineTriStarEnvy From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2265 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 4544 times:

I'd say FedEx gets my nod. I have almost been squashed by a couple of their trucks.

And, as 'Fly has pointed out, UPS brings the occasional DC-8 into PIE, every now and then, so I find it hard to fault UPS for much.



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User currently offlineTUNisia From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1845 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 4532 times:

I have no probs with FedEx or UPS, but around here the yellow DHL drivers (formerly Airborn Express) are the worst! I think it's because they mostly have tweens working for them. They are worse than your average ignorant driver.


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User currently offlineSeptember11 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3623 posts, RR: 21
Reply 10, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 4515 times:

Quoting WellHung (Thread starter):
DHL drivers (formerly Airborn Express) are the worst! I think it's because they mostly have tweens working for them. They are worse than your average ignorant driver.

why can't DHL pilots use yellow uniform? If they wear yellow uniform, will passengers think they are drivers?


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Quoting TUNisia (Reply 9):
formerly Airborn Express

Airborne Express still fly DC-9s!!! Photo taken this month (June 2005)


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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40076 posts, RR: 74
Reply 11, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 4502 times:

Quoting September11 (Reply 10):
Airborne Express still fly DC-9s!!! Photo taken this month (June 2005)

Nothing wrong with that.
I like to see the old jets still flying.  Smile



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User currently offlineORFflyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 4491 times:

We have both deliver here several times a day. The normal delivery drivers are not too bad. The ones that really piss me off are the priority overnight drivers, especially FEDEX. The guy on our route is a real POS. Once I went out and challenged him on his wreckless driving through our parking lot. I advised him that if he didn't slow down and be careful through here, I would escalate the situation. He actually DARED me too.... said if I wanted my packages on time, I'd should stay out of his business. Well, coincidentally, I had a meeting that afternoon with their CS rep. (They were hoping I would sign an exclusive contract with them, as I not only receive many packages a day, I also ship anywhere from 10 to 50 everyday to locations around the world.) Anyway, once I explained what had happened earlier, the CS rep called their safety dept, and I had the guy in my office that afternoon eating crow. He still delivers to our place, albeit at a much slower pace, and we are both cordial to each other.

Quoting WellHung (Reply 5):
Whenever I order something shipped UPS/Fedex or whtever, it is always sent to my business address if I know I won't be home.

Agreed. It's amazing the jack-asses that will wonder why they haven't received their package. Common sense didn't always get distributed to some folks. Big grin  Big grin

Quoting Superfly (Reply 6):
and best of all, they are Unionized.

Why is that Fly? I've been in unions, and I've been on the management side of the house. Nowadays for the most part, unions have outlived their usefulness, and have become a crutch for laziness!! IMHO

Now, before I get flamed, they had their place, and in some parts of the country, they still do. But around here, a union basically keeps lazy ass people that don't want to EARN their paycheck employed.

Chip


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40076 posts, RR: 74
Reply 13, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 4484 times:

Quoting ORFflyer (Reply 12):
But around here, a union basically keeps lazy ass people that don't want to EARN their paycheck employed.

I think managers everywhere says that.  Smile

Has FedEx reinstated there previledge for employees to fly in the cockpits?
That was yanked after 9/11. That was one awesome benefit Federal Express had over UPS.



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User currently offlineORFflyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 4473 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 13):
I think managers everywhere says that.

Of course they do... what do you think managers are paid to do  Silly  Silly

Quoting Superfly (Reply 13):
Has FedEx reinstated there previledge for employees to fly in the cockpits?
That was yanked after 9/11. That was one awesome benefit Federal Express had over UPS.

I'm not sure. We get two 727s everyday from FEDEX and on flight a day from UPS, an A300 I think, but not sure. I didn't know that the FEDEX boys could ride up from and the UPS guys not. I might be able to find out though.

Chip


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40076 posts, RR: 74
Reply 15, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 4468 times:

ORFflyer:
Oh yes indeed, that was an awesome perk for working for 'Federal Express'.
I had many friends and relatives that worked for them and they flew all over the place for free.
UPS employees work just as hard as FedEx employees.
When we get deliveries here at the office, the UPS guys seem a lot more relaxed and pleasant to deal with than the FedEx guys.
The FedEx guys seem rushed and under lots of pressure. Probably because there boss is an @$$hole!  Silly

(no offense to you ORFlyer)



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User currently offlinePendrilsaint From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 685 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 4455 times:

To hell with the vans, the FedEx transfer trucks are hell on wheels!!! If you see one in your rear-view you might as well jump a lane and get the hell out of his way. I've always found UPS guys to be friendly, and sure they speed, but it's nothing like those crazy FedEx guys.

User currently offlineGEG From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 301 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks ago) and read 4421 times:

I think that FedEx is the worst, specifically FedEx ground drivers. Arrogant S.O.B. and they look far less professional than their express counterparts.


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User currently offlineCaptOveur From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4402 times:

UPS has the worst delivery guys.


Back at the apartment the asshole wouldn't walk his lazy Teamster ass upto the third floor with a 6lb package on more than one occasion, dropping it off in the office rather than even bothering to see if anyone was home. I sent that damned thing next day air for a reason. Anyway.. by the time 7pm rolls around and all deliveries are supposed to be done, the office is closed and I don't get my replacement hard drive until the next day, meaning I went another night with a crippled computer with an assignment looming.

Another occasion:
I don't blame the lazy teamsters for not lugging a 50lb monitor up the stairs if he wasn't sure anyone was home, he could have knocked on the damn door before lugging it up there, instead the asshole just dumped that at the office too, this is even after we had put in a complaint with UPS following the previous incident.

In the shooting community there was also some sort of a boycott going against UPS. Apparently if you want to ship a firearm by UPS it MUST go next day because they got sick paying claims on guns that got stolen going UPS ground. I guess UPS wants their customers to pay the penalties for their criminal employees. Air packages get handled less and by fewer people so there is a lower theft/loss rate.


I have only had one problem with Fedex. Once very recently my girlfriend had a package sent Fedex to the new house. We were not home so the driver left it with the neighbors, who we do not really know. We called them up and got the matter resolved so they know not to do that now, it hasn't been a problem since.

I have also had no problems with Fedex Ground or DHL.


User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4393 times:

I live on a U-shaped street that begins and ends on the same cross street. There are about 20 houses on my 800-foot-long street. It's located 300 feet from the western Wisconsin UPS distribution center.

Half of the time a package due to be delivered via UPS, the supervisor calls to ask where my house is. The message is always the same. "The driver can't find your house. He's tried to deliver for the past two days and can't find it." I ask, "Have to tried Mapquest. com? Or Yahoo maps? Apparently not. You know FedEx and DHL always can find my house and they have to come from Minneapolis. You're 300 feet away. What's the problem?" The reply is always the same: "We have a new driver."

BULLSHIT! It's the same driver every time and he's been delivering for at least three years!

Four years ago, I was expecting a large order of electrical supplies that I needed quickly for a job. I waited and waited and waited. I finally walked over to the distribution center and talked to the same supervisor. He said, "We couldn't find your house. We tried delivering three times. There were eight boxes, but we had to return them to the sender." What a fucking Mickey Mouse way to run a company!

Mark


User currently offlineGarnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5426 posts, RR: 52
Reply 20, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4364 times:

Working for a law office, we get stuff sent to us from FedEx, UPS, and DHL. Now, I like our UPS guy well enough, but there was one instance that ticked me off a bit. Occasionally I have to be our receptionist's lunch relief which is when UPS typically arrives. Soon after 9/11, our office policy changed to where no weapons, including knives, are allowed in the office unless you're a badged LEO. Coincidentally we had a new guard. UPS guy comes in, goes through the metal detector and the guard asks him to empty his pocket. The UPS guy does so and in his pockets is a pocketknife. The guard tells the UPS guy to go back down to his truck and leave the "weapon." UPS guy goes ballistic, argues with the guard, snatches back his knife, takes the packages and leaves.

For the next 2 days we noticed no UPS packages were being delivered. We finally called his supervisor and were told that he had been registering things as being "undeliverable due to a closed office." I'm guessing his supervisor chewed him a new one, as the next day he showed up - without his knife, but with all the packages that we were supposed to have received.



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User currently offlineJ_Hallgren From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1507 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4363 times:

In my opinion, UPS=UNRELIABLE Piece of S$#%...they have screwed up my few deliveries so often, that they earned that title...they have: left valuable electronics (hi-end VCR, Laptop, etc) clearly marked "Signnature required" without getting one...left package by front door in the rain, instead of by the door that is obviously used to enter house in the CARPORT...damaged a box with laptop shipped by Dell so badly that it had to be returned...etc...

But last year, the FedEx ground guy here clipped one of the lanterns by my entrance and busted it up pretty good...he said he'd pay for repairs to it...and he did...but it cost him good! The cost of repairs was $250 at local lantern shop...couldn't get new one as that would havn't matched the other one...



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User currently offlineAllstarflyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4359 times:

Hmm, I haven't had a problem with FedEx or UPS drivers - it's those USPS guys with those piddly little trucks they'll occassionally swing around the road like they own it. And, by the way, UPS is right - the USPS wouldn't stand a chance in the open market.

-R


User currently offlineSpringbok747 From Australia, joined Nov 2004, 4387 posts, RR: 10
Reply 23, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4360 times:

FedEx seems to be much better than UPS. I've had so many parcels misplaced by UPS. Our home number is 11A...and it's clearly marked in big bronze letters outside the wall...but still these guys manage to screw it up, they ALWAYS end up giving our packages to house no. 11, and our neighbor ends up calling us to deliver our packages...the UPS guy left them there....because they couldn't find 11A...arghhh..idiots, can't they read the sign?!

I haven't had any worries with FedEx so far. For domestic parcels I trust Australian Air Express...they're much better than FedEx, UPS and DHL.

AA61Hvy...nice pic btw Big grin



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User currently offlineTrav110 From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 536 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4343 times:

The only thing that pisses me off about the FedEx driver on our route is how he sticks the door tags to the window beside the front door when there's a doorhandle inches away... go figure.

(1st post  Wink)


25 Post contains images Newark777 : Our high school's football coach got run over by a FedEx truck, shattered his pelvis. I think I know which one I would choose. BTW He's already back u
26 Blackbird1331 : UPS guys do not seem to obey the parking regulations. I wonder how many tickets they get, and who has to pay for them? I see them park with wheels up
27 F9Widebody : In my opinion, FedEx is FAR superior. UPS consistently arrives at my house at about 6pm, which is iunexcusable for packageas sent air. It absolutely p
28 CaptOveur : I think DHL drivers are inconsistent. In one city they are pricks, in another they are ok.. I am pretty certain DHL/Airborne use contract delivery com
29 Concordeloss : And its also amazing the jack-asses that don't know that some workplaces do not allow employees to get personal mail/packages at work.
30 CORULEZ05 : My vote goes for Fed-Ex drivers. They always seem to be more short and just rush rush rush. The UPS drivers around here are very very nice and not to
31 GuitrThree : You guys didn't know??? UPS stands for Unionized Parcel Service. Wonder why you get bad service?
32 Cactus739 : I've never had a problem with either. At my work we get both UPS and FedEx deliveries. Everything from corporate comes UPS, and paychecks from ADP com
33 Post contains images Espion007 : Neither. Its The mother f**king United Postal Service and their eagle. At least they deliver on time
34 GuitrThree : Why not? They get something like 8 breaks a day, thanks to the union!
35 CaptOveur : "Only thing really that I've noticed is that the FedEx guys generally have no personality and the UPS guy will hang out for a minute and talk." This i
36 MD-90 : Interestingly, I just found out that my sister will be a driver for UPS around Christmas. She said that UPS' drivers have to attend three weeks of tra
37 Post contains images J.mo : I used to be a FedEx driver from 1997-99. I was a part-time pickup driver, except on Saturdays. On Sat. I was a delivery driver. I had a big route wit
38 ORFflyer : No problem there Fly.... and I do agree the FEDEX guys are real asses compared to the UPS drivers. Although the below quote is very true as well. Chi
39 UPSMD11 : Well, I think my screen name gives away who I think is the best. I've been wtih UPS for 20 years and, by far, I think UPS drivers are the most courteo
40 Post contains images Syncmaster : I would have to agree for my area too (AZO). But out of FedEx and UPS, FedEx is BY FAR the worst here. ALL of the UPS drivers I've EVER met have been
41 Post contains images PHLBOS : DHL flies DC-9s also (2004-2005 photos). This past Sunday I noticed a yellow DHL DC-9 parked at RDU (I was on WN Flight 2769 en route to BNA to visit
42 Post contains images Superfly : Another thing I like about DHL is they have AN-24s. I wish we got those here.
43 Skyway1 : Well...I'm a FedEx driver and I see plenty of morons driving around as well. Talking on the cell phone...eating...smoking..you name it. EDIT: Saturday
44 57AZ : Skyway1 I agree with you there. The biggest jerks I've encountered are the 4-wheelers (cars, pickups, etc). FedEx, UPS and USPS drivers here are all p
45 EMBQA : I can't say. I've had the same UPS Driver for around 3 years now. She's really nice and I can just about set my watch by her.
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