WellHung From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (10 years 8 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 5588 times:
At what cost overnight delivery?
One of the most prevalent of today's road hogs; the overnight parcel delivery vans. They illegally block entire lanes of traffic with not even a warning from authorities. They file through traffic lights like mourners attending a funeral. They clog up main arteries with lard-esque effectiveness.
They may all be nice when it comes to handing the goods to the recipient and getting the signature, but often forgotten is the manner in which these parcels are delivered. When it comes down to it, who are the bigger dicks on the road? (I'm sure our resident funboys will chime in with anecdotal evidence of who HAS bigger, but that's another thread entirely - one I hope to never see). Would you want these people handling YOUR package? (no pun intended)
But I digress. I have to say that UPS douchebags are, in general, FAR less courteous and much more agressive drivers. Now why is this? Is it because they feel empowered by a union affiliation? Maybe the brown uniforms make them look AND drive like pieces of shit.
By no means is this a characterization of ALL UPS drivers and it certainly does not absolve all Fedex drivers of any wrongdoing. While each have their good and their bad, UPS just has far more of the bad. I don't have any affiliation with or loyalty to either of these companies. Please do not bring DHL/Airborne or any other overnight parcel delivery companies into the discussion as their smaller numbers prevent accurate comparison with the big 2. And USPS is not applicable because the delivery vans they use are pretty much go-karts with a roof.
Matt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 42
Reply 3, posted (10 years 8 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 5573 times:
Well for what it's worth, FedEx and UPS did not get to be FedEx and UPS by lollygagging around and taking their sweet time. Hey, the deliveries gotta get there.
Now if I could just figure out why they spend so much time and energy wasting their time making residential deliveries during the day, when most people aren't home. They end up leaving those "sorry we missed you" notes and end up coming back to deliver the same freight two or three times. It would seem to me that they could still further improve their bottom line by making deliveries either when people are home, or giving couple-hour ETA's so that people can arrange to be home, or both.
Superfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40298 posts, RR: 73
Reply 6, posted (10 years 8 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 5530 times:
Quoting Matt D (Reply 3): It would seem to me that they could still further improve their bottom line by making deliveries either when people are home, or giving couple-hour ETA's so that people can arrange to be home, or both.
I agree, or at least extend there store hours of operation.
I remember getting those 'sorry we missed you' notes and I was told I could drive all the way down to South San Francisco (near SFO) to pick up my package during there business hours which closes at 5:30 PM.
There operation hours are the same as there delivery hours! Also there center to pick up items is way out in no man’s land where nobody lives so getting there doing there operating hours are difficult.
I like UPS much better.
At least there shipping and receiving area is conveniently located in the city and has weekend operating hours. Also UPS uses DC8s and 747 classics , better looking livery and best of all, they are Unionized.
TUNisia From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1847 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (10 years 8 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 5512 times:
I have no probs with FedEx or UPS, but around here the yellow DHL drivers (formerly Airborn Express) are the worst! I think it's because they mostly have tweens working for them. They are worse than your average ignorant driver.
Someday the sun will shine down on me in some faraway place - Mahalia Jackson
September11 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3623 posts, RR: 19
Reply 10, posted (10 years 8 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 5495 times:
Quoting WellHung (Thread starter): DHL drivers (formerly Airborn Express) are the worst! I think it's because they mostly have tweens working for them. They are worse than your average ignorant driver.
why can't DHL pilots use yellow uniform? If they wear yellow uniform, will passengers think they are drivers?
ORFflyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 8 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 5471 times:
We have both deliver here several times a day. The normal delivery drivers are not too bad. The ones that really piss me off are the priority overnight drivers, especially FEDEX. The guy on our route is a real POS. Once I went out and challenged him on his wreckless driving through our parking lot. I advised him that if he didn't slow down and be careful through here, I would escalate the situation. He actually DARED me too.... said if I wanted my packages on time, I'd should stay out of his business. Well, coincidentally, I had a meeting that afternoon with their CS rep. (They were hoping I would sign an exclusive contract with them, as I not only receive many packages a day, I also ship anywhere from 10 to 50 everyday to locations around the world.) Anyway, once I explained what had happened earlier, the CS rep called their safety dept, and I had the guy in my office that afternoon eating crow. He still delivers to our place, albeit at a much slower pace, and we are both cordial to each other.
Quoting WellHung (Reply 5): Whenever I order something shipped UPS/Fedex or whtever, it is always sent to my business address if I know I won't be home.
Agreed. It's amazing the jack-asses that will wonder why they haven't received their package. Common sense didn't always get distributed to some folks.
Why is that Fly? I've been in unions, and I've been on the management side of the house. Nowadays for the most part, unions have outlived their usefulness, and have become a crutch for laziness!! IMHO
Now, before I get flamed, they had their place, and in some parts of the country, they still do. But around here, a union basically keeps lazy ass people that don't want to EARN their paycheck employed.
Of course they do... what do you think managers are paid to do
Quoting Superfly (Reply 13): Has FedEx reinstated there previledge for employees to fly in the cockpits?
That was yanked after 9/11. That was one awesome benefit Federal Express had over UPS.
I'm not sure. We get two 727s everyday from FEDEX and on flight a day from UPS, an A300 I think, but not sure. I didn't know that the FEDEX boys could ride up from and the UPS guys not. I might be able to find out though.
Superfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40298 posts, RR: 73
Reply 15, posted (10 years 8 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 5448 times:
Oh yes indeed, that was an awesome perk for working for 'Federal Express'.
I had many friends and relatives that worked for them and they flew all over the place for free.
UPS employees work just as hard as FedEx employees.
When we get deliveries here at the office, the UPS guys seem a lot more relaxed and pleasant to deal with than the FedEx guys.
The FedEx guys seem rushed and under lots of pressure. Probably because there boss is an @$$hole!
Pendrilsaint From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 685 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (10 years 8 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 5435 times:
To hell with the vans, the FedEx transfer trucks are hell on wheels!!! If you see one in your rear-view you might as well jump a lane and get the hell out of his way. I've always found UPS guys to be friendly, and sure they speed, but it's nothing like those crazy FedEx guys.
CaptOveur From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (10 years 8 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 5382 times:
UPS has the worst delivery guys.
Back at the apartment the asshole wouldn't walk his lazy Teamster ass upto the third floor with a 6lb package on more than one occasion, dropping it off in the office rather than even bothering to see if anyone was home. I sent that damned thing next day air for a reason. Anyway.. by the time 7pm rolls around and all deliveries are supposed to be done, the office is closed and I don't get my replacement hard drive until the next day, meaning I went another night with a crippled computer with an assignment looming.
I don't blame the lazy teamsters for not lugging a 50lb monitor up the stairs if he wasn't sure anyone was home, he could have knocked on the damn door before lugging it up there, instead the asshole just dumped that at the office too, this is even after we had put in a complaint with UPS following the previous incident.
In the shooting community there was also some sort of a boycott going against UPS. Apparently if you want to ship a firearm by UPS it MUST go next day because they got sick paying claims on guns that got stolen going UPS ground. I guess UPS wants their customers to pay the penalties for their criminal employees. Air packages get handled less and by fewer people so there is a lower theft/loss rate.
I have only had one problem with Fedex. Once very recently my girlfriend had a package sent Fedex to the new house. We were not home so the driver left it with the neighbors, who we do not really know. We called them up and got the matter resolved so they know not to do that now, it hasn't been a problem since.
I have also had no problems with Fedex Ground or DHL.
AsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (10 years 8 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 5373 times:
I live on a U-shaped street that begins and ends on the same cross street. There are about 20 houses on my 800-foot-long street. It's located 300 feet from the western Wisconsin UPS distribution center.
Half of the time a package due to be delivered via UPS, the supervisor calls to ask where my house is. The message is always the same. "The driver can't find your house. He's tried to deliver for the past two days and can't find it." I ask, "Have to tried Mapquest. com? Or Yahoo maps? Apparently not. You know FedEx and DHL always can find my house and they have to come from Minneapolis. You're 300 feet away. What's the problem?" The reply is always the same: "We have a new driver."
BULLSHIT! It's the same driver every time and he's been delivering for at least three years!
Four years ago, I was expecting a large order of electrical supplies that I needed quickly for a job. I waited and waited and waited. I finally walked over to the distribution center and talked to the same supervisor. He said, "We couldn't find your house. We tried delivering three times. There were eight boxes, but we had to return them to the sender." What a fucking Mickey Mouse way to run a company!
Garnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5544 posts, RR: 51
Reply 20, posted (10 years 8 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5344 times:
Working for a law office, we get stuff sent to us from FedEx, UPS, and DHL. Now, I like our UPS guy well enough, but there was one instance that ticked me off a bit. Occasionally I have to be our receptionist's lunch relief which is when UPS typically arrives. Soon after 9/11, our office policy changed to where no weapons, including knives, are allowed in the office unless you're a badged LEO. Coincidentally we had a new guard. UPS guy comes in, goes through the metal detector and the guard asks him to empty his pocket. The UPS guy does so and in his pockets is a pocketknife. The guard tells the UPS guy to go back down to his truck and leave the "weapon." UPS guy goes ballistic, argues with the guard, snatches back his knife, takes the packages and leaves.
For the next 2 days we noticed no UPS packages were being delivered. We finally called his supervisor and were told that he had been registering things as being "undeliverable due to a closed office." I'm guessing his supervisor chewed him a new one, as the next day he showed up - without his knife, but with all the packages that we were supposed to have received.
South Carolina - too small to be its own country, too big to be a mental asylum.
J_Hallgren From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1507 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (10 years 8 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5343 times:
In my opinion, UPS=UNRELIABLE Piece of S$#%...they have screwed up my few deliveries so often, that they earned that title...they have: left valuable electronics (hi-end VCR, Laptop, etc) clearly marked "Signnature required" without getting one...left package by front door in the rain, instead of by the door that is obviously used to enter house in the CARPORT...damaged a box with laptop shipped by Dell so badly that it had to be returned...etc...
But last year, the FedEx ground guy here clipped one of the lanterns by my entrance and busted it up pretty good...he said he'd pay for repairs to it...and he did...but it cost him good! The cost of repairs was $250 at local lantern shop...couldn't get new one as that would havn't matched the other one...
Allstarflyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (10 years 8 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5339 times:
Hmm, I haven't had a problem with FedEx or UPS drivers - it's those USPS guys with those piddly little trucks they'll occassionally swing around the road like they own it. And, by the way, UPS is right - the USPS wouldn't stand a chance in the open market.
Springbok747 From Australia, joined Nov 2004, 4387 posts, RR: 10
Reply 23, posted (10 years 8 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5340 times:
FedEx seems to be much better than UPS. I've had so many parcels misplaced by UPS. Our home number is 11A...and it's clearly marked in big bronze letters outside the wall...but still these guys manage to screw it up, they ALWAYS end up giving our packages to house no. 11, and our neighbor ends up calling us to deliver our packages...the UPS guy left them there....because they couldn't find 11A...arghhh..idiots, can't they read the sign?!
I haven't had any worries with FedEx so far. For domestic parcels I trust Australian Air Express...they're much better than FedEx, UPS and DHL.