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User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1655 times:

ROME, Italy -- U.S. President George W. Bush will travel to Kosovo on Tuesday to visit U.S. troops stationed in the troubled province.

Bush will complete his six-day European visit by visiting Camp Bondsteel near Pristina, where some 5,000 U.S. troops serving with the NATO-led KFOR force are stationed.

U.N. and KFOR commanders are expected to brief him before he addresses the troops on the camp's parade grounds and dines with them.

The KFOR base is around 40 kilometres (25 miles) southeast of Pristina, capital of the southern Yugoslav province which is currently under U.N. administration after the Kosovo war of 1999.

Bush also plans to meet Hans Haekkerrup, the U.N. administrator of Kosovo, for talks on progress in solving the province's problems, The Associated Press reported.

Amid questions over whether Bush would pull U.S. troops out of the Balkans, he has assured Europeans that the United States will continue to work side by side with international peacekeepers where needed.

During his visit to Rome on Monday, Bush said during a news conference that he has assured Italian Premier Silvio Berlusconi: "America came into the Balkans with our friends, and we will leave with our friends."

The U.S. president received strong backing from Berlusconi over his plans to develop a missile defence shield. The Italian premier said other European governments should also recognise the importance of the national missile defence (NMD) proposal.

He urged Russia to support the plan, saying he agreed that there was a need for new responses to military threats facing the United States, Europe and even Russia required new responses.

He said: "We will always be next to the United States in order to take part in this discussion, going well beyond the attitudes of certain European states which still today have not in my opinion understood how the world has changed and how we should start worrying about the future."


Bush has met with resistance from America's other European allies and Russia and China over the proposals, which opponents say would threaten the 1972 Anti-Ballistic Missile treaty.

The two leaders earlier lunched privately at a palazzo in the Villa Doria Pamphili park in Rome.

Bush had earlier met Pope John Paul II and he said he would take the pope's rejection of stem cell research using embryos into consideration when he decides whether to allow funding for the controversial practice.

"He's sent a consistent word throughout the Church, and throughout society, that we ought to take into account the preciousness of life," Bush said at the press conference with Berlusconi.

John Paul II had addressed the issue of stem cell research using embryos at a press conference after the 35-minute meeting with Bush at the pontiff's summer home, Castel Gandolfo, south of the Italian capital

"A free and virtuous society which America aspires to be must reject practices that devalue and violate human life at any stage of conception until natural death," the pope said.

"In defending the right to life ... America can show the world ... (that) man remains the master not the product of his technology."

Bush in turn expressed his admiration for the pontiff. "Where there is oppression you speak of human rights, where there is poverty you speak of justice and hope," he said.

"Where there is ancient hatred, you defend and display a tolerance that reaches beyond every boundary of race and nation and belief."

Later, at the press conference with Berlusconi, Bush said that John Paul had not raised stem cell research during their private session, but had instead focused on foreign policy and Bush's meeting on Sunday with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

But he added that his decision on whether to grant federal funding for embryonic stem cell research is the most difficult choice he has to make, because of the dilemma between moral issues of creating human embryos to produce stem cells and the promise from doctors and scientists the research will save human lives.

He expressed his respect for the pope's stand, saying: "I frankly do not care what the political polls say. I do care about the opinions of people, particularly someone as profound as the Holy Father."

The trip to Rome was the third stop on Bush's tour following a visit to London and his visit to the G8 summit in Genoa, Italy. He is accompanied by his wife, First Lady Laura Bush, and their daughter Barbara, 19.


-cnn.com



He isn't batting 1.000 but he is working to get the job done, especially in the Missle Defense, faith, and tax cut area. He is working for the American people and our allies.


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User currently offlineCstarU From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1586 times:

Good job by Dick Cheney and his VP Karl Rove.

Imagine, GW is only two heartbeats away from becoming president!
 Big grin


User currently offlineN400QX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1573 times:

While not a huge supporter of Bush, the man is incredibly intelligent. People just don't recognize the fact because their opinions are clouded with anti-Bush propaganda and they cannot see the truly smart things he has done.

User currently offlineWe're Nuts From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5722 posts, RR: 20
Reply 3, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1571 times:

Giving the Christian religion priority is NOT representing the American people or its Constitution.


Dear moderators: No.
User currently offlineTwotterwrench From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1566 times:

Sorry, nuts, it represents a very large portion of the population and FULLY represents the Constitution and principles upon which our country was founded. Just because you aren't christian doesn't make the rest of the country just like you.

User currently offlineCstarU From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1551 times:

...the man is incredibly intelligent.


Zach,

I'm glad that you're developing a sense of humor. Keep it up.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39857 posts, RR: 74
Reply 6, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1545 times:

Zach, I agree!
I don't pay any attention to that sublimbaboble progagamba by the liberal media!  Laugh out loud



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User currently offlineLH423 From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 6501 posts, RR: 54
Reply 7, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1534 times:

Mr. President, what's the White House like?

Our "intelligent" president simply responded to this question asked by a young British kid by saying "It is white."

Need I say more?

LH423



« On ne voit bien qu'avec le cœur. L'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux » Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 35
Reply 8, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1528 times:

George W Bush = hhmmm i know what W stands for....



User currently offlineDeltaRNOmd-80 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1523 times:

LH423, if the "encounter" between W and the british kid is even true, I bet the Pres. was joking around.


User currently offlineWe're Nuts From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5722 posts, RR: 20
Reply 10, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1518 times:

Wankerwrench, gee, and here I thought this was the land of the free. A land where religion wasn't forced on you. A land where the government couldn't control your life. A land where faith is, rightfully so, a personal matter. Then Tush goes and lights a fire under the Constitution. No, no, I'm afraid this DOESN'T represent the American people. It's represents YOU. And YOU do not represent the American people. YOU are but a small fraction of it, and YOU deserve no more priority than anyone else. Sorry to pop your ego, but that's how it is... deal with it.


Dear moderators: No.
User currently offlineTwotterwrench From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1513 times:

More emotional crap with no facts nuts. How did bush cram religion down your throat exactly??? Give me facts not shit....

User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39857 posts, RR: 74
Reply 12, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1506 times:

Twott:
Gee I hope you don't talk like that around your kids.
You should fill out the questions in the topic by SFOintern 'Whare do aviation enthusiest fit into society?' thread.
You may learn more about yourself.  Big grin

Lord knows the world doesn't need another Trott...err.. wrench.

 Smile



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User currently offlineN312RC From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 2682 posts, RR: 16
Reply 13, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1500 times:

Lord knows the world doesnt need another Superfly aka RealHigh.


Fly Delta's Big Jets!
User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39857 posts, RR: 74
Reply 14, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1498 times:

N312RC:
HA HA Funny DG_pilot  Smile



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User currently offlineSccutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 5509 posts, RR: 28
Reply 15, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1487 times:

FWIW, those whom I know who are acquainted with the president assure me that, while he may not be the best extemporaneous speaker, he is not dense, dull, stupid or even slow.

As governor of Texas, my fair (HOT) state, he was able to garner a level of cooperation in a legislative process that is, by any measure, laughable; and in the process, he garnered a lot of respect across party lines.

You will not see President Bush trying to force religion on anyone (and no evidence extant in this thread has shown anything of that sort), but you'll not likely see him abandoning the moral and ethical principles which he espouses, often called "Judeo-Christian principles," though scarcely limited thusly.

Again, an open mind before an open mouth may offer the chance for the occasional surprise. If you still disagree, you can do so possessed of facts rather than sensational hyperbole.



...three miles from BRONS, clear for the ILS one five approach...
User currently offlineWe're Nuts From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5722 posts, RR: 20
Reply 16, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1478 times:

Oh why bother anymore.

Twotter, you're right. Bush will go down in history as the best president we have ever had. He will do everything to make this country a great power. We will all sing his praises.

You were all right, and I was all wrong.



Dear moderators: No.
User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1466 times:

Zach, saying Mr. Bush is "incredibly intelligent" is like saying you're incredibly open-minded. It makes for good talk, but neither is very true.

And if I were a supporter of Bush, I woulndn't be too thrilled with the strong backing of Italy. That really means a lot coming from one of the most unstable democracies in Europe, with it's "Government-of-The-Month Club".


User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1449 times:

Bush is incredibly intelligent.
Jesus would be proud of the Christian Right.
There is no separation of Church and State in the US.
The US constitution was based on the teachings of the old testament (Thats why lynching and slavery were such venerable constitutional rights).
Justice Scalia is a paragon of Christian tolerance, and Jesus would be proud of him too.
Bill Clinton never had sex with "that" woman.
The Chinese have a wonderful human rights track record.....and....
The MD-11 was a big success.

Any more fundamental truths you wanna add here??

Beauty is skin deep, but Stupid goes all the way to the Bone.



User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 19, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1440 times:

For all of the people who say Bush is dumb, I ask, how is he dumb?

Is it because:

1. He didn't know the answer to those questions, even though Clinton admitted he didn't know the answer to them either.

2. He has a B.A. from Yale and an MBA from Harvard, which makes him the first president in history to have an MBA.

3. He occasionally slips up his words, just like every other world leader.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39857 posts, RR: 74
Reply 20, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1437 times:

PanAm747:
Now you and I know that GW Bush did not get into Yale & Harvard on his own merit. He benefited from a different type of Affirmative Action policy that benefits the spoiled rich kids.  Big grin



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User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1433 times:

Superfly-

Well that "Affirmative Action policy" didn't help him get into U of Texas Law School.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39857 posts, RR: 74
Reply 22, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1432 times:

Yes it did.


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User currently offlineJetService From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4798 posts, RR: 11
Reply 23, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1433 times:

PanAm747, you forgot one...

4. Because the left-wing propaganda is just too overwhelmingly powerful for them to make a fair assessment.



"Shaddap you!"
User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 24, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1432 times:

Superfly-

He applied for the Law School there and didn't get in.

If you want to talk about connections, how did Clinton get out of Vietnam, and how did he become a Rhodes Scholar? Many people believe these things happened because Clinton had help from high level politicians in his area.

Also, don't forget Geoge Bush Sr. was the son of a very powerful senator. After he graduated from High school he could've gone to college, but instead he enlisted in the Navy and became a Torpedo bomber pilot in WWII. IMHO that there says something about someone's character, unlike Clinton.



Pan Am:The World's Most Experienced Airline - P(oor) S(ailor's) A(irline): San Diego's Hometown Airline-Catch Our Smile!
25 We're Nuts : The Conservatives on this thread are so unbelievably one-sided it makes me wonder if their brain even has two lobes. It's a two-sided fence, guys! Lib
26 Superfly : PamAm747: George Bush Sr. earn his achievements. I have nothing against Bush Sr. as a person. I disagreed with his policies and I never voted for him.
27 PanAm747 : How did Bush Sr. earn his achievements with a very powerful senator as his dad and Bush Jr. not earn his achievements with a president for a dad? Don'
28 Post contains images Superfly : PamAm747: The achievements I was refering to was in WWII. Prescott Bush (R-CT) had nothing to do with that. >Bush Sr. and Jr. didn't have an "easy lif
29 Post contains images Superfly : Also, G.H. Bush Sr. did the following before President: US Congressman Headed the Republican National Committee, Headed the CIA, Two terms as Vice-Pre
30 PanAm747 : Please let's keep this based on facts, otherwise Johan will delete it. >>Oh gee, did they starve? Was there lights & gas turned off as a result of tha
31 PanAm747 : I mean: He helped lock his physics teacher in the closet
32 Tupolev154B2 : Bush sucks and this country was built on the basis of separation of religion and state. Twottertwrench, don't twist history just because it was not in
33 Post contains images Superfly : PanAm747: I am a little confused at what you are getting at. Your previous post mentioned nothing about leukemia. What does that have to do with under
34 PanAm747 : First I asked why people think GWB is dumb. Then you said he got his Ivy League education only because of his dad. And then you implied that they live
35 Post contains images Superfly : OK, understood! You should have mentioned the leukemia after the fact that life wasn't easy for them. Hell those Texans were smarter back then to not
36 JetService : Excuse me gentlemen. I don't care what grievences you have with where these guys got where they are, but you can't tell me someone can become Presiden
37 LOT767-300ER : I just cant argue with these idiots! There is no use for it!
38 Post contains images Superfly : JetService: I think 'Bubba' would really like you as a person because you have all the right pick-up lines!
39 We're Nuts : Wow, LOT's first post on this thread and he's already given up!
40 Alpha 1 : PanAm747, yeah, those Bush's have had SUCH a tough life!! All that money; all that power. Yeah, that's right up there with living in the slums of Harl
41 Post contains images JetService : LOL Superfly!!!!
42 Tupolev154B2 : Anybody besides me who is sick of the Dem vs. Rep arguments? They never end and the name-calling is not necessary since a vast majority of us, whether
43 Twotterwrench : tupolev.. I know you would love to jump on the "let's trash the conservatives band wagon" with the other big boys, but you need to finish school first
44 Twotterwrench : Tupolev- one more thing, and I won't waste much time with you on this one either... America is NOT a democracy. Never has been. Never will be. Now if
45 Jaysit : So who ever denied that our founding fathers were religious men? Or that religion hasn't played a role in shaping the personal morality of Americans?
46 Post contains links LoneStarMike : Misunderestimators? Kinda sounds like one of those GWB made-up words that can't be found in any dictionary.At any rate, yes, it is apparent by this ph
47 Post contains images Superfly : LoneStarMike: That was funny! You know it's interesting how Mr. Twott is jumping on the 'Oh we're not a democracy' band wagon. I wonder if he would be
48 PanAm747 : Alpha 1- They didn't have an easy life. Can you imagine how traumatic that must have been to lose your child/sister at that young age? Or how about fl
49 N400QX : I agree with everything Twotterwrench wrote-- its the plain truth. Nice job... couldn't have written it better myself. And as for this silly argument
50 We're Nuts : Zach is right. That argument is as stupid as saying that Clinton is a womanizer, or a draft-dodger, or doesn't have any family values. Those are just
51 Post contains images N400QX : >doesn't have any family values I guess it depends on your definition. Adultery, in my book, is a serious violation and is an indicator of a man with
52 Post contains images Superfly : N400QX: People do make mistakes. It dosen't make them less moral. At least Bill and Hillary are stil together. Look at your fellow fine conservatives
53 Alpha 1 : PanAm747, they've had an easy life-compared with a lot of other people in the world, they've had a very, very easy life. They grew up with a silver sp
54 Post contains images Superfly : Alpha1: Of course he wouldn't because it's not in the Constitution!
55 We're Nuts : Zach, I calls 'em as I sees 'em! Superfly, don't forget Clarence Thomas. I'd like to see the Conservatives defend him.
56 N400QX : Superfly... I really don't care which side of the spectrum an adulterer comes from. Its the same sin.
57 Alpha 1 : Zach said; "Superfly... I really don't care which side of the spectrum an adulterer comes from. Its the same sin." Yeah, Zach, that may be true, but I
58 Post contains images SSTjumbo : GWB is smarter than his English is. He shouldn't have taken a strateagerism approach to Language.
59 Superfly : Maybe it's Bushabonics that he speaks. As an open-minded liberal, I am willing to accept this language if it really is spoken by a large group of peop
60 Twotterwrench : Jaysit : What's your aimless rant all about? My comments were directed at Tupolev in direct response to comments he made to me. Scroll up. superfly: Y
61 We're Nuts : As I have always said, I condemn the sin, but never the sinner. You forgot the part that says all Liberals are sinners... kind of like you've been say
62 RealHigh : I thought Dick Cheney was the president in charge .
63 Twotterwrench : Back it up, nuts. Back it up. You are very good at throwing out inflammatory crap, but you are incapable of backing up what you say with a logical arg
64 Tupolev154B2 : Well Twottertwrench, Did the Founding Fathers ever say explicitly that religion should form a basis of government? You cannot deny that they were Chri
65 Twotterwrench : Superfly - I took your silly test.. go read it if you would like. I fail to see how that was going to teach me something, but what the hell. Tupolev -
66 We're Nuts : Who's flinging inflammatory shit?
67 Twotterwrench : I am not sure nuts. But surely if you meant I was being inflammatory you would list a couple of examples. Since you didn't give specifics, I truly hav
68 Post contains links We're Nuts : This should answer all your questions: http://www.airliners.net/discussions/non_aviation/read.main/86751/
69 Twotterwrench : ok, nuts, I read it all again. I still don't see anything to back up your hateful rants. When did he lie? When did he cheat? What are his momumental f
70 Post contains images We're Nuts : Making baseless statements and calling names is all you do when you can't answer someones argument? I mean, I am trying to be open minded here but you
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