PanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8 Posted (13 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2053 times:
ROME, Italy -- U.S. President George W. Bush will travel to Kosovo on Tuesday to visit U.S. troops stationed in the troubled province.
Bush will complete his six-day European visit by visiting Camp Bondsteel near Pristina, where some 5,000 U.S. troops serving with the NATO-led KFOR force are stationed.
U.N. and KFOR commanders are expected to brief him before he addresses the troops on the camp's parade grounds and dines with them.
The KFOR base is around 40 kilometres (25 miles) southeast of Pristina, capital of the southern Yugoslav province which is currently under U.N. administration after the Kosovo war of 1999.
Bush also plans to meet Hans Haekkerrup, the U.N. administrator of Kosovo, for talks on progress in solving the province's problems, The Associated Press reported.
Amid questions over whether Bush would pull U.S. troops out of the Balkans, he has assured Europeans that the United States will continue to work side by side with international peacekeepers where needed.
During his visit to Rome on Monday, Bush said during a news conference that he has assured Italian Premier Silvio Berlusconi: "America came into the Balkans with our friends, and we will leave with our friends."
The U.S. president received strong backing from Berlusconi over his plans to develop a missile defence shield. The Italian premier said other European governments should also recognise the importance of the national missile defence (NMD) proposal.
He urged Russia to support the plan, saying he agreed that there was a need for new responses to military threats facing the United States, Europe and even Russia required new responses.
He said: "We will always be next to the United States in order to take part in this discussion, going well beyond the attitudes of certain European states which still today have not in my opinion understood how the world has changed and how we should start worrying about the future."
Bush has met with resistance from America's other European allies and Russia and China over the proposals, which opponents say would threaten the 1972 Anti-Ballistic Missile treaty.
The two leaders earlier lunched privately at a palazzo in the Villa Doria Pamphili park in Rome.
Bush had earlier met Pope John Paul II and he said he would take the pope's rejection of stem cell research using embryos into consideration when he decides whether to allow funding for the controversial practice.
"He's sent a consistent word throughout the Church, and throughout society, that we ought to take into account the preciousness of life," Bush said at the press conference with Berlusconi.
John Paul II had addressed the issue of stem cell research using embryos at a press conference after the 35-minute meeting with Bush at the pontiff's summer home, Castel Gandolfo, south of the Italian capital
"A free and virtuous society which America aspires to be must reject practices that devalue and violate human life at any stage of conception until natural death," the pope said.
"In defending the right to life ... America can show the world ... (that) man remains the master not the product of his technology."
Bush in turn expressed his admiration for the pontiff. "Where there is oppression you speak of human rights, where there is poverty you speak of justice and hope," he said.
"Where there is ancient hatred, you defend and display a tolerance that reaches beyond every boundary of race and nation and belief."
Later, at the press conference with Berlusconi, Bush said that John Paul had not raised stem cell research during their private session, but had instead focused on foreign policy and Bush's meeting on Sunday with Russian President Vladimir Putin.
But he added that his decision on whether to grant federal funding for embryonic stem cell research is the most difficult choice he has to make, because of the dilemma between moral issues of creating human embryos to produce stem cells and the promise from doctors and scientists the research will save human lives.
He expressed his respect for the pope's stand, saying: "I frankly do not care what the political polls say. I do care about the opinions of people, particularly someone as profound as the Holy Father."
The trip to Rome was the third stop on Bush's tour following a visit to London and his visit to the G8 summit in Genoa, Italy. He is accompanied by his wife, First Lady Laura Bush, and their daughter Barbara, 19.
He isn't batting 1.000 but he is working to get the job done, especially in the Missle Defense, faith, and tax cut area. He is working for the American people and our allies.
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N400QX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (13 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1971 times:
While not a huge supporter of Bush, the man is incredibly intelligent. People just don't recognize the fact because their opinions are clouded with anti-Bush propaganda and they cannot see the truly smart things he has done.
Twotterwrench From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (13 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1964 times:
Sorry, nuts, it represents a very large portion of the population and FULLY represents the Constitution and principles upon which our country was founded. Just because you aren't christian doesn't make the rest of the country just like you.
We're Nuts From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5722 posts, RR: 18
Reply 10, posted (13 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1916 times:
Wankerwrench, gee, and here I thought this was the land of the free. A land where religion wasn't forced on you. A land where the government couldn't control your life. A land where faith is, rightfully so, a personal matter. Then Tush goes and lights a fire under the Constitution. No, no, I'm afraid this DOESN'T represent the American people. It's represents YOU. And YOU do not represent the American people. YOU are but a small fraction of it, and YOU deserve no more priority than anyone else. Sorry to pop your ego, but that's how it is... deal with it.
Superfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40298 posts, RR: 74
Reply 12, posted (13 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1904 times:
Gee I hope you don't talk like that around your kids.
You should fill out the questions in the topic by SFOintern 'Whare do aviation enthusiest fit into society?' thread.
You may learn more about yourself.
Lord knows the world doesn't need another Trott...err.. wrench.
Sccutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 5798 posts, RR: 26
Reply 15, posted (13 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1885 times:
FWIW, those whom I know who are acquainted with the president assure me that, while he may not be the best extemporaneous speaker, he is not dense, dull, stupid or even slow.
As governor of Texas, my fair (HOT) state, he was able to garner a level of cooperation in a legislative process that is, by any measure, laughable; and in the process, he garnered a lot of respect across party lines.
You will not see President Bush trying to force religion on anyone (and no evidence extant in this thread has shown anything of that sort), but you'll not likely see him abandoning the moral and ethical principles which he espouses, often called "Judeo-Christian principles," though scarcely limited thusly.
Again, an open mind before an open mouth may offer the chance for the occasional surprise. If you still disagree, you can do so possessed of facts rather than sensational hyperbole.
...three miles from BRONS, clear for the ILS one five approach...
Alpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (13 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1864 times:
Zach, saying Mr. Bush is "incredibly intelligent" is like saying you're incredibly open-minded. It makes for good talk, but neither is very true.
And if I were a supporter of Bush, I woulndn't be too thrilled with the strong backing of Italy. That really means a lot coming from one of the most unstable democracies in Europe, with it's "Government-of-The-Month Club".
Jaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (13 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1847 times:
Bush is incredibly intelligent.
Jesus would be proud of the Christian Right.
There is no separation of Church and State in the US.
The US constitution was based on the teachings of the old testament (Thats why lynching and slavery were such venerable constitutional rights).
Justice Scalia is a paragon of Christian tolerance, and Jesus would be proud of him too.
Bill Clinton never had sex with "that" woman.
The Chinese have a wonderful human rights track record.....and....
The MD-11 was a big success.
Any more fundamental truths you wanna add here??
Beauty is skin deep, but Stupid goes all the way to the Bone.
PanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 24, posted (13 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1830 times:
He applied for the Law School there and didn't get in.
If you want to talk about connections, how did Clinton get out of Vietnam, and how did he become a Rhodes Scholar? Many people believe these things happened because Clinton had help from high level politicians in his area.
Also, don't forget Geoge Bush Sr. was the son of a very powerful senator. After he graduated from High school he could've gone to college, but instead he enlisted in the Navy and became a Torpedo bomber pilot in WWII. IMHO that there says something about someone's character, unlike Clinton.
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25 We're Nuts
: The Conservatives on this thread are so unbelievably one-sided it makes me wonder if their brain even has two lobes. It's a two-sided fence, guys! Lib
: PamAm747: George Bush Sr. earn his achievements. I have nothing against Bush Sr. as a person. I disagreed with his policies and I never voted for him.
: How did Bush Sr. earn his achievements with a very powerful senator as his dad and Bush Jr. not earn his achievements with a president for a dad? Don'
: PamAm747: The achievements I was refering to was in WWII. Prescott Bush (R-CT) had nothing to do with that. >Bush Sr. and Jr. didn't have an "easy lif
: Also, G.H. Bush Sr. did the following before President: US Congressman Headed the Republican National Committee, Headed the CIA, Two terms as Vice-Pre
: Please let's keep this based on facts, otherwise Johan will delete it. >>Oh gee, did they starve? Was there lights & gas turned off as a result of tha
: I mean: He helped lock his physics teacher in the closet
: Bush sucks and this country was built on the basis of separation of religion and state. Twottertwrench, don't twist history just because it was not in
: PanAm747: I am a little confused at what you are getting at. Your previous post mentioned nothing about leukemia. What does that have to do with under
: First I asked why people think GWB is dumb. Then you said he got his Ivy League education only because of his dad. And then you implied that they live
: OK, understood! You should have mentioned the leukemia after the fact that life wasn't easy for them. Hell those Texans were smarter back then to not
: Excuse me gentlemen. I don't care what grievences you have with where these guys got where they are, but you can't tell me someone can become Presiden
: I just cant argue with these idiots! There is no use for it!
: JetService: I think 'Bubba' would really like you as a person because you have all the right pick-up lines!
39 We're Nuts
: Wow, LOT's first post on this thread and he's already given up!
40 Alpha 1
: PanAm747, yeah, those Bush's have had SUCH a tough life!! All that money; all that power. Yeah, that's right up there with living in the slums of Harl