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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24928 posts, RR: 56
Posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2131 times:

Was just watching a TV Interview with the tennis player Andrew Murray, when some Yank journalist says something like "How's it feel to be a young English player?" when in fact Murray is Scottish.
Whether the journo called him Englishas in English or English as in British, what he said was plain ignorant. I guess many Americans do the same mistake, which pisses me off extremely.

Does anyone here make the mistake that thinking everyone on these Islands is English? If so, speak up....I won't snap at you if you do  Wink














Well, maybe just a little bit


When you hear the noise of the Tartan Army Boys, we'll be coming down the road!
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User currently offlineMyt332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 70
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2119 times:

Isn't Scotland just some small town in the far north somewhere filled with drunks who live off the dole?


You can't blame them for not knowing about that place!



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User currently offlineTPASXM787 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1730 posts, RR: 19
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2116 times:

There's no excuse for someone, especially a journalist, to call some one from Scotland "English" I don't think that most Americans realize the national pride that Scots have.

BTW, what is with that damn flag?



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User currently offlineThom@s From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 11953 posts, RR: 46
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2114 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Thread starter):
US Media = Ignorant

Scotland = England.

J/k. Big grin

Don't take it so hard. Many americans are surprised to know Norway isn't the capital of Sweden.

Thom@s



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User currently offlineTPASXM787 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1730 posts, RR: 19
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2102 times:

"Many americans are surprised to know Norway isn't the capital of Sweden."


Sweden is a country? I thought that was just a bikini team.  wink 



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User currently offlineWellHung From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2088 times:

Sorry, I (we) have more important things to worry about than these minor technicalities. Anyway, with all the EU bullshit, you won't have an identity at all in a few years.

User currently offlineBarcode From Switzerland, joined Dec 2001, 678 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2078 times:

Well, I can sort of understand it - after all, I doubt I would think much about regional differences that may be important to some Americans. What is pretty inexcusable is the 11% of Americans that can't find AMERICA on a map (I wish I were making this up). Heck, either something is seriously wrong with the educational system or this 11% exist in a cave.

User currently offlineGary2880 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2060 times:

To quote homer Simpson.... (best and most reliable source there is.. ) from the episode in which Mr burns nicks the lochness monster

"Aberdeen rules!'' which was awesome...

But I digress, its not just the Americans, watching some phone in show if someone phones in from London they praticaly say which street their from 'oh right yes is that the one next to harrods ah yes' but if someone phones in from Scotland its 'hamish from Scotland' where!! Its a sodding big place!

ahh no I've gone onto auto rant, bash on!

Formula 1, when coulthard wins according to the commentators he's British, and when he loses he's Scottish!! Same with Tim henman, if he wins (hah) he's English and if he loses he's British!

Back to the American media, why do they always have to put 'of London' when quoting a news paper, 'the sun of London' 'the daily record of London' and the best yet 'the Scotsman of London(?!)'

fox news weather insert when the adverts are on, why the hell is Edinburgh in Inverness?!

Back to .. In general, why must everyone think that everyone in Scotland speaks Glaswegian, personally speaking is a horrible accent when the Doric is so much more wonderful and should be classed as the mother tongue, if ainly i ki'd get awa wi spikkin at ere

what else..

We dont all eat deep fried mars bars! Not every week anyway

rikki foulton - if I was king you know what I would do? I would rebuild hadrians wall. And electrify it!


User currently offlineGary2880 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2058 times:

Quoting TPASXM787 (Reply 2):
BTW, what is with that damn flag?

whats wrong with our flag(s)


User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2041 times:

Quoting Thom@s (Reply 3):
Many americans are surprised to know Norway isn't the capital of Sweden.

If it were not for mapquest and having had a Norgie 'online girlfriend' I'd say you were right.


User currently offlineTPASXM787 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1730 posts, RR: 19
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2037 times:

"whats wrong with our flag(s)"

Mr. Scotland himself still has the UK flag. I wonder if Johan made it permanent.



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User currently offlineBananaBoY From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 1578 posts, RR: 22
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2029 times:

Quoting WellHung (Reply 5):
Sorry, I (we) have more important things to worry about than these minor technicalities. Anyway, with all the EU bullshit, you won't have an identity at all in a few years.

You Canadians are all the same.  Wink


Mark



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User currently offlineGary2880 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2027 times:

just because scotland has 3 to choose from  cheerful 

User currently offlinePipoA380 From Switzerland, joined May 2005, 1594 posts, RR: 51
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2021 times:
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Quoting Thom@s (Reply 3):
Many americans are surprised to know Norway isn't the capital of Sweden.

Just like Switzerland = Sweden = Swaziland

About Switzerland, the american media (a specific channel I loooove) made a good joke about it recently. Have fun!




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User currently offlineGary2880 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2012 times:

I would like to congratulate Switzerland on its new home and hope its very happy there. also seams Berlin has became scared of poland and shunted in a bit

you have to wonder when the person was typing that 'hang on... Where did that little country below Germany come from I haven't seen that before, must be desert'


User currently offlineGREATANSETT From Australia, joined Aug 2003, 508 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1966 times:

American media (FOX News especially) suck. I find their news to be a complete joke rather then an important source of info. Saying that Aussie Media is not much better. My 2c.


Ron Paul 2012
User currently offlinePendrilsaint From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 685 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1950 times:

I really think that 10% figure quoted above is vastly overblown. I'm sure there are a few who can't locate the US on a map...but you are forgetting the smartass factor on these surveys; those who, just for the pure idiocy of the question, point to somewhere else on the map. The outline of America is something that is scene all the time in the US.

User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8507 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1934 times:

Surely, not that many people can't be from Scotland Yard, can they? I mean, a yard really isn't that big of a place? Big grin

User currently offline1MillionFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1920 times:

considering a Journalism degree is about the easiest degree to obtain, the profession doesn't draw the sharpest knives in the drawer for sure!

User currently offlinePilotpip From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3150 posts, RR: 11
Reply 19, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1918 times:

As long as mass media is driven by profits and owned by major corporations that have financial intrests in the stories that they report, they'll be biased and more concerned with making money than finding facts.


DMI
User currently offlineSlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 68
Reply 20, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1906 times:

I've long been contemptuous of people who are ignorant of geography, but lately I've been rethinking it. There was a joke that went something like this:

"Where'd you go on holiday?"
"Mallorca."
Where's that?
"I don't know - we flew."

But there is a certain wisdom to it. Assuming that a person does have some area of actual knowledge and expertise, why should we be able to "bound" every country on earth? What difference does it make if you are not actually using the information at the moment? We cannot all be experts on everything, and with technology exploding, life is getting very complicated.

After all, I put up with you guys using the word "alot" and spelling "lose" L-O-O-S-E.

Now journalists! That is different. There is no excuse for a journalist to get something wrong. After all, they have the option of keeping their own mouth shut!

One last thought: Any jounalist who ever, once in their career asks the question; ""what's it like" or "what does it feel like" should just admit to the world that they haven't a clue about anything and retire from public life. We should then never again speak their name.



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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13092 posts, RR: 12
Reply 21, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1884 times:

Far too many USA residents/citizens are lazy, lousy and really don't care about international geography and cultures. A far less percentage of Americans travel outside of North American than EC citizens do outside of the EC. Probably a higher percentage of EC residents come to the USA as tourists than USA residents as tourists to the EC countries. I go nuts when local TV and newspapers get locations and other facts wrong too. Some in the media are complete dolts, just there due to their 'looks' not brains.
Unlike many of my fellow Americans, I have traveled in much of the Europe, including the 4 major parts of the UK - England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. (as well as to parts of Australia and NZ). I know that to call a Scotsman/woman 'English' is like calling a Texan a New Yorker. I am aware of the fine beauty and differences in the different parts of the UK as well as the USA. I don't just visit the 'top ten' tourist sites, but stay in guest houses, bed & Breakfasts, youth hostels, eat at local resturants, try the local food specialties, visit and stay in small towns and cities, try to understand the local/regional history and culture (and usually their beer or popular 'beverages'). So don't blanket all Americans as idiots, just the ones you see.


User currently offlineBasas From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 216 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1860 times:

^So what if they don't travel to Europe as often as Europeans travel around. Europe is much smaller so naturally, people are going to be travelling to more counties more often. In North America, both Canada and the US are so big, we don't really need to leave. Because someone doesn't go to Europe, are they now 'lazy' and 'don't care about international geography'?

User currently offlineUTA_flyinghigh From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 6495 posts, RR: 50
Reply 23, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1815 times:

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 1):
Isn't Scotland just some small town in the far north somewhere filled with drunks who live off the dole?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA  rotfl 

UTA  checkeredflag 



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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29795 posts, RR: 58
Reply 24, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1810 times:

Quoting PipoA380 (Reply 13):
About Switzerland, the american media (a specific channel I loooove) made a good joke about it recently. Have fun!

Well if they would either shorten the name of the country, or invade somebody else so that there is enough map space to type in Switzerland, then maybe the name of the country could be in the right place.

You don't see the nation of Chad or Iran having this problem. Their name always fits in within their borders.

[Edited 2005-06-22 09:06:55]


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25 Gkirk : SlamClick, calling a Scotsman "English" is worthy of the Death Penalty (and I'm being serious!)
26 NYCFlyer : WTF?! As I'm sure you're aware, Fox News is the brainchild of your fellow Aussie, Rupert Murdoch. Good point on the smartass factor.
27 Post contains images Jasepl : Not quite Alex. Everyone knows that everything north of Potter's Bar is Scotland!
28 Banco : Kirkie, as a matter of historical record, English and British were genuinely interchangeable until relatively recently, with many Scots using "Englis
29 Post contains images Cornish : Funnily enough when I've seen US coverage of Indy/Cart racing in the past, Dario Franchitti has always had a Scottish flag next to his name on the Tv
30 Banco : This whole thing about people being British when they win and Scottish when they lose is a load of utter rubbish. Since when was Linford Christie cal
31 PipoA380 : Just like your country's name "United States Of America" can be spelled "USA", "Switzerland" can also be spelled "CH" like "Confederatio Helvetica" (
32 Udo : CNN = Chicken Network News Regards Udo
33 Gkirk : On certain occasions, it does happen. Although not very often (not recently anyway). A good example of it, is the "British" Lions which is about 90-9
34 Post contains images Cornish : Think yourself lucky ! If there wasn't an unwritten rule that all the home nations had to represented, there'd be no Scotsmen in the squad at all on
35 Post contains images Gkirk : Actually Scotland have now won 3 games in a row
36 Post contains images Cornish : Really?! Let me guess: Andorra, Uruguay and Lichtenstein ??
37 Post contains images Banco : British and Irish Lions I think you'll find. And it's about 40-45%, which given the population bias could be argued as England actually being under-r
38 PipoA380 : Or Feroe Islands maybe. Don't forget them!
39 Post contains images Thom@s : The fairy islands... such opposition. Thom@s
40 EZEIZA : Two funnies on this one, proving that there is a big problem in the US regarding basic education (what are you guys taught at school?). In Boca Raton,
41 Seb146 : When I worked in Vancouver Washington (across the river from Portland Oregon) one of my co-workers was studying for a geography test. He was doing wel
42 Post contains images FlyLondon : Hmmm lets see.... Well that spelling and grammar was a clear rebuttal of your attack on US education
43 TrappedInMKG : I hereby challenge any and all of you Brits/Assorted Europeans to name all 50 US atates and their capitals WITHOUT using Google (or other outside mean
44 EZEIZA : One thing is not being able to get all 50 states (something which I'm sure most Americans can't do either from the top of their head), but another th
45 Post contains images Basas : Any proof behind that statement? Any reference to your quote that 10% of Americans can't find America on the globe? I've also heard that only 37% of
46 EZEIZA : As a matter of fact I have lived in the US so, yes I have proof, but not actual figures. Actually, that last part was "Canada and Alaska"! This was i
47 Basas : Well if you believe it from personal experience- fair enough. And how many Europeans could find Indiana on a map? America is a huge country- all thos
48 EZEIZA : I'm sure most europeans could not find Indiana, or many other states, but they could point out the US on a world map. I'm not expecting anyone to poi
49 Basas : I understand your point but i'm simply saying that the US is so easy to point out because its huge. I'm sure most Americans wouldn't have a hard time
50 EZEIZA : Probably most people can point out South America, but the fact that just one couldn't is cause of concern! Problem is some peoplr wouldn't even know
51 Basas : Romania only has 22 million people, and is hardly a nation of high-importance in the global scheme of things. I guess i just don't see the big deal i
52 Pendrilsaint : Haha, thank you for catching my poor use of a homonym FlyLondon (I'm sure you've done it once or twice in your life...oh, excuse me. It slipped my min
53 EZEIZA : What about Switzerland? France? Brazil? are they too not important?
54 Basas : Yes, but do we really know how many could, and could not point out these countries on a map? I'm willing to bet most people would know the general lo
55 EZEIZA : Probably few, but most will be able to point Canada. Besides, you would expect better education from the first world countries in terms of education.
56 Pendrilsaint : haha, by the way- I find it a bit more disturbing that there were 21% of students from the UK couldn't locate the United States in the same survey. Th
57 EZEIZA : Wow! that is disturbing indeed. I honestly did not expect it. Also an education problem?
58 Pendrilsaint : Well it's interesting- I think everyone should go take a peek at all the results on the National Geographic survey. Mexico faired the worst by far, bu
59 Banco : You pretty much beat me to it in terms of what I was about to say. You get surveys all the time that highlight supposedly astonishing ignorance every
60 KEno : If you expect non-US people to know that, then I expect you to know the same for the location/name/capital of the states/provinces of China & India t
61 Post contains images Thom@s : I read that when asked who it was who discovered America, one student replied "Gandalf". Thom@s
62 PipoA380 : I challenge you to tell me what the 26 cantons of Switzerland are, and what their capitals are. That kinda answer confirms what I thought! Man, there
63 Damirc : Are you sure he was from the northern US states ("Yank")? :] Or you might have just insulted somebody yourself :] D.
64 MD11Engineer : I think this applies to history lessons too. My 14 year old daughter just finished Junior High this week in a small town close to Sacramento, Ca., and
65 GDB : As Boca Raton was mentioned above, it reminded about something that happened around 15 years ago. On a holiday in Florida, we stopped off at a liquor
66 MD11Engineer : I had the same problem in Dallas, Texas a few years ago, when I wnted to buy some beer. The guy in the shop insisted on ID. I gave him my passport, he
67 Pendrilsaint : MD11Engineer, I totally concur with what you're saying about US history classes. It's unfortunate, but history usually begins with Columbus landing on
68 Swisskloten : Actually, according to a study done two years ago, the most frequently missed question on high school geography tests was: Where is Sweden? or Where
69 Swisskloten : I cannot believe that there are some AMERICANS (yep, us damn Yankees) who do not know the words to the national anthem. Believe it or not, I've heard
70 Basas : Better than the 63% of Canadians who have trouble remembering the first 10 words of our national anthem, O Canada.
71 PipoA380 : I don't know what you think but I would say that it's more important to locate your own country on a world map than to know your country's anthem...
72 Gary2880 : will you be naming all the counties and shires in England then? Or all the different regions in Scotland? grampian lothian the highlands they all hav
73 Barcode : Of course, it's not *necessary* to know where X,Y,Z is outside your own country; but it does demonstrate a level of ignorance and insularity. And yes,
74 FDXmech : Hmmm. You generally call Americans, "Yanks". Don't you know that's insulting to citizens in our southern states? Actually calling a southerner a, "Ya
75 OzarkD9S : If you think American journalists are ignorant, look at American voters.
76 Post contains images FDXMECH : Don't demean yourself. Though I probably didn't vote for the same candidate as you, I wouldn't label you ignorant. At least not for that.
77 OzarkD9S : I wasn't demeaning myself, hell I voted for the lesser of two evils. Too bad the greater of two evils won. But I'll try to make it till 2009!
78 Andz : I remember taking a taxi from LGA to Manhattan and the driver noticed my accent and asked me where I was from. When I told him Johannesburg he replied
79 FDXMECH : I gotta admit, I never met anyone who thought that. Besides the taxi driver thought J.burg was a southern city.
80 Post contains images FDXMECH : No, Bush won, didn't ya hear?
81 OzarkD9S : I heard. At least he won fair and square. This time around.
82 ATCT : As a news employee (though laid off at the moment). I find that ALL new sources have their faults. British, Scot, American, whatever. They are all bia
83 Greyhound : I agree. However, too often people blame JUST the teachers in our high schools, along with the administration (district I mean) and so on. But until
84 Basas : I'm not so sure about that...
85 Post contains images PipoA380 : Oh well ok, nevermind
86 ZRH : I am not wondering. I think that most Europeans adults don't know what El Niño is because it does not affect the European climate much. It is not of
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