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Do We Want The Euro In The UK? Volume 2.4  
User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24928 posts, RR: 56
Posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2026 times:

Well, it's that time of year again.
Been a while since we've asked whether you want the Euro in the UK.
So, I still say no on that topic.

And on the more important stuff, any English/Scottish/Welsh/Irish folks can join in and bash our continental rivals, for being the stuck up snobs that they are  Wink
The French for always whining, the Germans for always losing, the Italians for...errr...being Italian  Wink
Whatever you want, bash away in a friendly manner  Wink


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User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2023 times:

Your threads are boring since you stopped drinking.  Wink

Patrick


User currently offlineACAfan From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 710 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2021 times:

Damn the pound. I'll take the Euromarks any day!

Why? Because it harmonizes commerce across Europe.



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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24928 posts, RR: 56
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2021 times:

bor�ing Audio pronunciation of "boring" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (b�rng, br-)
adj.

Uninteresting and tiresome; dull.

boring�ly adv.
boring�ness n.

Synonyms: boring, monotonous, tedious, irksome, tiresome, humdrum
These adjectives refer to what is so uninteresting as to cause mental weariness. Boring implies feelings of listlessness and discontent: I had never read such a boring book. What is monotonous bores because of lack of variety: �There is nothing so desperately monotonous as the sea� (James Russell Lowell). Tedious suggests dull slowness or long-windedness: Traveling by plane avoids spending tedious days on the train. Irksome describes what is demanding of time and effort and yet is dull and often unrewarding: �I know and feel what an irksome task the writing of long letters is� (Edmund Burke). Something tiresome fatigues because it seems to be interminable or to be marked by unremitting sameness: �What a tiresome being is a man who is fond of talking� (Benjamin Jowett). Humdrum refers to what is commonplace, trivial, or unexcitingly routine: My quiet cousin led a humdrum existence.



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User currently offlineOzvirginuk From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 396 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2010 times:

Keep the pound!!! The Euro may lower my mortgage payments through lower interest rates, but it would F@$k up the rest of the economy (one of the few growing and stable economies in the world) because Britain would lose the ability to ultimately control it. That is a bad thing IMHO.

Ozvirginuk


User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2000 times:

I think a far more interesting question given that he works in London, is Do We Want Andreas in the UK?

I vote we re-build Tyburn and give the public what they want. Big grin



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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24928 posts, RR: 56
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1994 times:




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User currently offlineFlyAUA From Austria, joined May 2005, 4604 posts, RR: 56
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1988 times:

I am sick of countries calling themselves so-called "EU members" who reject to completely integrate themselves into Europe based on patriotic/economic/whatever grounds. This is not a post against England, but for god's sake... if you don't want to do what most other countries have done to be a true EU participant, then don't pretend! You can't just pick the aspects of membership that you feel are advantageous for yourself and push aside the ones that don't sound fun to you. If you want to join the EU there will be pros and cons. This whole "we are fine on our own, we don't need the Euro, it's bad for our economy" bullshit is very frustrating.

I lived in the UK for 3 years and it's really annoying to always worry about all the currency exchanges while I can happily trod along most of the other EU countries without even thinking about currency exchanges, and so on. You don't get the true sense of being in the EU when in England because of this (and the mentality) in particular. To back this up, it is actually the English people who refer to the rest of their EU counterparts as being "on the continent" while they refer to themselves as being "on the island".

Before people start slagging off at me... I will add that I really enjoyed my time there and that it's a great place (except for the trains) so do not think this is bashing. It is just my opinion that if you don't want to suffer the disadvantages of being an EU member, then maybe you shouldn't be part of it in the first place. If countries like Ireland, Austria, Greece, Germany, Italy, Portugal, France, and so on can integrate the currency into their systems, I don't see why England should not. It's only fair. OK, I am done... now you can have a bash at me. LOL Big grin



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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24928 posts, RR: 56
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1983 times:

Quoting FlyAUA (Reply 7):
OK, I am done... now you can have a bash at me.

You should take your head out of Chirac's  butthead 
 Wink



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User currently offlineFlyAUA From Austria, joined May 2005, 4604 posts, RR: 56
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1980 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 8):
You should take your head out of Chirac's

Haha, the only thing I know about that guy is which country he's from!

Seriously... is that the best you've got???  box 

lol Big grin



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User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1975 times:

Quoting FlyAUA (Reply 7):
I am sick of countries calling themselves so-called "EU members" who reject to completely integrate themselves into Europe based on patriotic/economic/whatever grounds.

Er...since when was it compulsory?

Quoting FlyAUA (Reply 7):
You can't just pick the aspects of membership that you feel are advantageous for yourself and push aside the ones that don't sound fun to you.

Um. I think you'll find you can. Everyone else does too. France barely implements a single directive. Guess who has the best record in that regard? The UK!

Quoting FlyAUA (Reply 7):
This whole "we are fine on our own, we don't need the Euro, it's bad for our economy" bullshit is very frustrating.

But in terms of the single currency, true! So stuff the Euro! Big grin

Quoting FlyAUA (Reply 7):
it's really annoying to always worry about all the currency exchanges while I can happily trod along most of the other EU countries without even thinking about currency exchanges

Well, I'm so sorry it was made a bit difficult for you. Funnily enough, that's not too high on the list of priorities.  Wink

Quoting FlyAUA (Reply 7):
To back this up, it is actually the English people who refer to the rest of their EU counterparts as being "on the continent" while they refer to themselves as being "on the island".

Um. But this is quite accurate.  confused 

Quoting FlyAUA (Reply 7):
If countries like Ireland, Austria, Greece, Germany, Italy, Portugal, France, and so on can integrate the currency into their systems, I don't see why England should not

Um. Because it's not good for us?

Quoting FlyAUA (Reply 7):
It's only fair.

Ah! Now we have it! Misery loves company.  Wink

 stirthepot 



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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24928 posts, RR: 56
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1968 times:

Quoting Banco (Reply 10):
Quoting FlyAUA (Reply 7):
If countries like Ireland, Austria, Greece, Germany, Italy, Portugal, France, and so on can integrate the currency into their systems, I don't see why England should not

Um. Because it's not good for us?

Sounds a good idea though, and it leaves us Scots with the Pound. Of course, we'd have to end up changing currency each time we crossed the border...



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User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1965 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 11):
Of course, we'd have to end up changing currency each time we crossed the border...

I don't see why. In Scotland none of you have any money in the first place. That's why you end up coming to England to see what it looks like. Big grin



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User currently offlineFlyAUA From Austria, joined May 2005, 4604 posts, RR: 56
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1965 times:

Banco... that's more like it *ahhhhhh... enjoys* Big grin

Quoting Banco (Reply 10):
Er...since when was it compulsory?

I don't see myself saying it was compulsory anywhere in the post. Countries pick whether they want it or not and England has chosen not to use it.

Quoting Banco (Reply 10):
Um. I think you'll find you can. Everyone else does too. France barely implements a single directive. Guess who has the best record in that regard? The UK!

Yes I know you can, but I think it's arrogant.

Quoting Banco (Reply 10):
But in terms of the single currency, true! So stuff the Euro!

I agree, but this was true for many other countries that accepted the Euro too.

Quoting Banco (Reply 10):
Well, I'm so sorry it was made a bit difficult for you. Funnily enough, that's not too high on the list of priorities.

Apologies accepted  tongue 

It is high on my list of priorities when you travel a lot, and I do!

Quoting Banco (Reply 10):
Um. Because it's not good for us?

Yes it's not good for you when you opt out of it while the majority of other countries opt for it since you still enjoy the advantages of not having the Euro. But if all EU countries just accepted the Euro, then this would not be true and it would be good for you. Unfortunately, this is not the case yet.



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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24928 posts, RR: 56
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1964 times:

Anyway, I don't like the way in which my thread is developing. Much too serious  Wink
Have a look at this site and your thoughts on it:
http://www.freebritain.co.uk/



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User currently offlineFlyAUA From Austria, joined May 2005, 4604 posts, RR: 56
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1961 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 11):
leaves us Scots with the Pound. Of course, we'd have to end up changing currency each time we crossed the border...



Quoting Banco (Reply 12):
I don't see why. In Scotland none of you have any money in the first place. That's why you end up coming to England to see what it looks like.

 rotfl 

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 14):
Anyway, I don't like the way in which my thread is developing. Much too serious

Sorry for hijacking your thread Kirkie!



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User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 16, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1960 times:

Quoting FlyAUA (Reply 13):
Banco... that's more like it *ahhhhhh... enjoys*

Well, we've got to start it somehow. Otherwise how will Klaus be able to froth at the mouth like he normally does.  Wink

Quoting FlyAUA (Reply 13):
I agree, but this was true for many other countries that accepted the Euro too.

More fool you then. Big grin

Quoting FlyAUA (Reply 13):
Yes it's not good for you when you opt out of it while the majority of other countries opt for it since you still enjoy the advantages of not having the Euro. But if all EU countries just accepted the Euro, then this would not be true and it would be good for you. Unfortunately, this is not the case yet.

Look, if you're stupid enough to hand over control of your economy to someone else, for no other reason than that the French and Germans want you to, then don't bleat to us simply because we think you're off your collective trollies.  Big grin



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User currently offlineFlyAUA From Austria, joined May 2005, 4604 posts, RR: 56
Reply 17, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1955 times:

Quoting Banco (Reply 16):
More fool you then.

I had no choice so I pretended I was pro, and now I am  scratchchin 

Quoting Banco (Reply 16):
Well, we've got to start it somehow. Otherwise how will Klaus be able to froth at the mouth like he normally does.

Who is Klaus?

Quoting Banco (Reply 16):
Look, if you're stupid enough to hand over control of your economy to someone else, for no other reason than that the French and Germans want you to, then don't bleat to us simply because we think you're off your collective trollies.

I don't think that's what we did by accepting the Euro. But then again, I didn't read into it that much. I do miss the ole Shilling though and the days where I didn't have to pay EUR2 for a coke or EUR3.50 for a hot chocolate or EUR8 for a bacardi longdrink *sob*

Anyways, there is a festival in the city centre with lots of booze and fireworks in 2 hrs so I am going to get ready and head that way (by foot cus I am a law-abiding citizen and will refuse to drive Big grin)

Kirkie: Sorry for adding yet another useless/low-quality post to your thread



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User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 18, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1950 times:

Quoting FlyAUA (Reply 17):
Who is Klaus?

Oh, you'll find out. He's our resident Brussels cheerleader  Wink

Have a good time at the festival.



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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21442 posts, RR: 53
Reply 19, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1942 times:

Nice to be missed. Hi guys!  bigthumbsup 

But no, I´m too angry to have fun about the wave of panic, shortsighted tactical populism and aggressive egoism that´s currently trying to actively destroy the EU.

A last-ditch effort to exploit the waning power of extortion before the rules could be made more democratic. When everybody is working towards a constructive compromise, enforcing a failure will never make you popular, or even put you in a leadership position.

If there was a referendum about the exclusion of Britain from the Union at this point, I´d probably vote yes.

Keep the pound! You won´t need the Euro outside of the EU. Just get out and spare us the abuse and the aggravation, please.


User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24928 posts, RR: 56
Reply 20, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1927 times:

Quoting Klaus (Reply 19):
Keep the pound! You won�t need the Euro outside of the EU. Just get out and spare us the abuse and the aggravation, please.

Gladly  Wink Although it's the Krauts and frogs that are causing all the aggro



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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21442 posts, RR: 53
Reply 21, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1913 times:

Just get out, please. Maybe you can recognize from the outside what you´re so happily ignoring while you´re allegedly still in.

User currently offlineWhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1905 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Thread starter):
Been a while since we've asked whether you want the Euro in the UK.
So, I still say no on that topic.

Eventually, just not at the moment as it would cause too much upheaval.

It's not whether we want it or not, it has to be inevitable. Besides I like the idea of breakfast in Manchester, lunch in Paris and pissed up in Prague without having to change money or visit cashpoints and pay exchange fees.


User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24928 posts, RR: 56
Reply 23, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1900 times:

Quoting Klaus (Reply 21):
Just get out, please. Maybe you can recognize from the outside what you´re so happily ignoring while you´re allegedly still in.

Same back at you  Wink



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User currently offlineBasas From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 216 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1900 times:

Keep the pound...it's worth more than the Euro anyways.

25 Post contains images Pilot kaz : £
26 Post contains images Aloges : You chaps keep the pound, we'll use real money instead. Lest I forget:
27 Post contains images Arsenal@LHR : £ £ £
28 Post contains images FlyAUA : Well I can see this thread has not been very informative in my 7 hour absence! Thanks it was great. I am knackered now though. Didn't know that many p
29 Post contains images Banco : Klaus, old chap, I do believe you're rattled. The EU is changing. The old certainties of the Franco-German axis are coming under attack from the UK,
30 Post contains images Toulouse : Hey Gkirk my friend... I don't think us Irish participate that frequently in the British hobby of insulting and bashing other Europeans!!!! Just look
31 Post contains images Gkirk : I see John Prescott stuck two fingers up at Jacques Chirac yesterday
32 Banco : It was beforehand. And taking the Euro has meant that Ireland has been overheating constantly because interest rates are too low for Irish economy. B
33 Toulouse : OK Banco. Point taken and well expressed. I'd still love to know though why joing the euro would not help UK companies. I'd say the current situation
34 Gkirk : 10 Dirty Deals that France has done to aid Saddam TWO-faced Jacques Chirac has cosied up to evil Saddam Hussein for 30 years. Here are ten links betwe
35 Banco : Well, there's nothing to stop companies having a Euro account. It's done with US dollars and has been for years. Realistically, if a company trades h
36 Cornish : No triumph of the Euro at all - go to Harrods and you can pay in US Dollars or Yen if you fancy ! Believe me the last thing Germany needs or wants is
37 Toulouse : Yes, and one of my service providers has a Euro account with an English account... yet she is still charge commissions from her bank when I transfer
38 Post contains images Cornish : Nope - down in the west country they still use potatoes rather than metal coins and paper notes as a form of barter
39 Toulouse : Hi there Cornish... how are you? Working hard as we all are I see! Ahhh... the poor folks of the beautiful west country... for a second I though you w
40 Banco : I doubt it. The biggest problem right now is that the Euro is rather weak, so naturally buying in sterling is rather expensive. On the other hand, Ir
41 Toulouse : Banco Thanks... and really well done on your excellent posts. It's so nice to see such 'sensible' posts on this forum, which are frequently unfortunat
42 Post contains images Cornish : Morning Toulouse. Actually doing very little as the boss is in Munich and I'm slowing down waiting for the wekeend when I can head off to SA True eno
43 Post contains images Toulouse : Good for you! Heading off to SA for holidays? If so, have a great time! Possible true, despite the fact that most Europeans want to convince themselv
44 Banco : They need each other - economically at least. But one of the problems with the EU debate is that it is often trotted out that the UK needs to be part
45 Cornish : Absolutely. That's why we veto so much but never walk away from it. In between my travels of late, I've missed part sof what is going on over the iss
46 Post contains images Gkirk : Banco, Cornish, do you wish to answer this for me please?
47 Banco : No, not necessarily. There's a bit of wishful thinking on the part of the likes of the Daily Mail there. What she did say was that it was unreasonabl
48 Post contains images Banco : Certainly, Kirkie. Toulouse, you have to treat Kirkie like the lunatic in the corner of the pub. He pops up with inane comments from time to time, an
49 Cornish : Ah that'll be it then. I can't remember where I saw/heard it (not the Mail, that's for sure!) but that's pretty much the gist of it. It might have be
50 Post contains images Cornish : Ever seen the programme Father Ted, Toulouse ? Well think of Kirkie as a young version of Father Jack - waking up from a drunken stupor to shout rand
51 Post contains images Gkirk : As long as it's not the Frogs
52 Post contains images Gkirk : Anyway, where is that daft git Andreas (such a womans name ) hiding nowadays?
53 NoUFO : Just like me, he's probably pondering strategies for hijacking this thread, bash some bloody Scots and Dutch along with those blasé Englishmen and F
54 Post contains images Gkirk : Germans arent supposed to bash the French. Remember, you are very close allies
55 NoUFO : Look, I got eight answers right in Banco's recent stupid "How British are you"-test; that's just as many points as you made. Likewise, I'd probably fa
56 Post contains images Cornish : Germans always have bashed the French though - that's how the French got their inferiority complex of the Germans
57 Post contains images Banco : Well, Germans with a sense of humour are such rare beasts... He's on holiday. Feel free to slate him. Um. Getting the same as Kirkie in anything isn'
58 Toulouse : Feck!!! ars*!!! Women!!! DRINKKKK!!!! Cornish, for a short while in the past I went through that "interesting" experience of TEFL in Spain... I assur
59 MD11Engineer : I did this test too and scored 100%. So, move aside, Lizzie! It is high time to have a boxhead on your throne again! Jan
60 Post contains images NoUFO : In Britain, Germans with a sense of humour are certainly rare, but that shouldn't come as surprise.
61 Post contains images Banco : That just involves replacing one German with another. You know, when I was at university, this German feller was absolutely the best audience you cou
62 Post contains links Banco : Incidentally, for anyone who is interested, here is the full text of Blair's address to the European Parliament a short while ago. Quite interesting.
63 ME AVN FAN : - You see, the Brits are "the Swiss INSIDE the E.U." while those in Switzerland are the "Brits OUTside the E.U." !�
64 ME AVN FAN : - it in reality would IMPROVE the trading position of Britain, and make international trade easier ---- and would force the Swiss to forget the Franc
65 ME AVN FAN : - THIS of course IS the keyword. Travelling while using the same currency in quite a nice number of countries !�
66 Banco : No, it wouldn't. The question of different currencies is pretty much an irrelevance when trading internationally, so that argument is meaningless. As
67 ME AVN FAN : - No, I have been working in international air-cargo AND trade for a fairly long time, and the question of the different currencies for sure IS cause
68 Post contains images Banco : Utter nonsense. To say that the many and varied arguments against joining are just jingoism is frankly idiotic. We get this a lot; as soon as anyone
69 Post contains images Gkirk : Can we all just agree that The EU is an extremely corrupt organisation! There, everyone is happy now
70 Post contains images FlyAUA : Actually it was me who said that And while Switzerland has not accepted the EU, at least they do not make any economic gains by being an EU member, s
71 FlyAUA : Correction of post above (can't edit it no more) The first EU in my second sentence should actually read Euro
72 Post contains images Gkirk : So you're pro EU then FlyAUA? You must lead such a miserable life
73 Banco : He may do. On the other hand, he has only to look at an atlas to think "At least I'm not Scottish", which is bound to cheer him up.
74 Post contains images FlyAUA : Hell yeah You guys come across as a married couple!!!
75 ME AVN FAN : - *********** A) change in Europe will be the disappearance of the British Pound, the Swiss Franc and the Russian Rubel in favour of the Euro -- the
76 ME AVN FAN : not more and not less so than its members. AND the UK of course IS a member and even one of the BIG THREE. So it must be part of the origin of the pr
77 Banco : That's a declaration of war if ever I read one. Why? What for? You clearly have no knowledge of economics because you refuse to even acknowledge anth
78 Gkirk : FlyAUA, I declare war upon thee!
79 Post contains images FlyAUA : Hardly! It's more that I find your innuendo's amongst eachother cute in a weird way
80 Post contains images Skidmarks : NO. Thank you very much. Andy retiring
81 Post contains images Gkirk : Thought you were already retired you git!
82 Post contains images Banco : Look, your weird fetishes are your own business. We don't want to know.
83 Post contains images Gkirk : He's Austrian....I think Austrians are a mixture of German, French and Russian. No wonder he's weird
84 Paulc : inuendo ? - is that a brand of italian suppository ? ps - no to the eu btw
85 Post contains images FlyAUA : Well now that you've mentioned it, I have a fetish for veiny, manly arms The german in the blend is right, but definately no french and russian in th
86 Post contains images Banco : Run for the hills! Oh, dear. Hook, line and sinker. Off you go, Kirkie.
87 Post contains images Gkirk : FlyAUA....it seems that you are gay...so there's the French part You're a fan of the EU corruption, and nobody knows corruption better than the Russia
88 Post contains images FlyAUA : You mean you've got those??? Very well said... I am thoroughly impressed Signed, Fritz
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