Sponsor Message:
Non Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
Three Boys Found Dead In Trunk  
User currently offlineJalto27R From United States of America, joined May 2004, 857 posts, RR: 14
Posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 4080 times:

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationwo...,print.story?coll=ny-top-headlines

The father of a missing 6-year-old boy found his son's body and those of his two young friends in the trunk of a car Friday, two days after the children disappeared from a nearby yard where they were playing.

A neighbor, Carmen Cilla, said she saw David Agosto open the trunk of the car and collapse to his knees screaming. It was not immediately clear how the three boys got into the vehicle or whether foul play was involved.

The boys -- Jesstin "Manny" Pagan, 5; Daniel Agosto, 6; and Anibal "Juni" Cruz, 11 -- had vanished from the yard next to Anibal's home on Wednesday evening. The car where they were found was parked in a driveway next to the yard. It was not immediately clear if the car had been searched previously.

The boys had been the subject of a massive search since their disappearance. About 150 police, firefighters and other officials searched Friday using boats, helicopters, all-terrain vehicles and tracking dogs.


My mom spoke to the pilots of a NJSP helicopter that was searching for them. They had been searching all night, and it was city-wide. Everyone had high-expectations of finding them, as, after all it is Camden, and it might have been likely they were taken and soon to be returned. Now it looks like, at least what I think happened, that the children somehow got in the trunk and shut it while playing a game or something of that sort. Very very very sad, though, and being a local, and watching the video of the Camden residents just losing their emotions is rather heart breaking. Comments?

Mike

37 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7410 posts, RR: 50
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 4075 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

This is one of the most bizarre cases i've heard of. Sad nonetheless.


Made from jets!
User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 4065 times:

Get your Flame throwers ready...

A) only a few people REALLY have a good idea why they died at this point in time so us speculating without an initial coroner's report is useless.
B) Having said A, and presuming they just died because of locking themselves in the trunk, it's just Darwin at work. Sad but true.


User currently offlineCaptaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 55
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 4055 times:

Having said A, and presuming they just died because of locking themselves in the trunk, it's just Darwin at work. Sad but true.


I'm a huge fan of the Darwin awards, but this is truly sad. You don't expect kids of that age to have the foresight to avoid locking themselves and dying in the trunk of a car. But let's wait for the autopsies to be sure though.



"it's kind of like an Airbus, it's an engineering marvel, but there's no sense of passion" -- J. Clarkson re: Coxster
User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 4042 times:

Quoting Captaingomes (Reply 3):
You don't expect kids of that age to have the foresight to avoid locking themselves and dying in the trunk of a car.

NOPE, but as the father of a 6 and 3 year old I expect that unless you hire a baby sitter, take the kid to daycare or otherwise entrust the care of your child to someone else, you are FOOLISH to not keep an eye on your kids 24/7. Why was the trunk open in the first place???


User currently offlinePendrilsaint From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 685 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 4040 times:

I can't believe the local CBS station showed the clip of him discovering the three children dead on the evening news!!! Ugh, distasteful of them!

User currently offlineJalto27R From United States of America, joined May 2004, 857 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 4038 times:

Quoting Pendrilsaint (Reply 5):
I can't believe the local CBS station showed the clip of him discovering the three children dead on the evening news!!! Ugh, distasteful of them!

So you saw that, too? It was absolutely horrifying watching these neighbors breakdown on the ground...just...horrible.

Mike


User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 4034 times:

Quoting Pendrilsaint (Reply 5):
I can't believe the local CBS station showed the clip of him discovering the three children dead on the evening news!!! Ugh, distasteful of them!

If it bleeds, it leads.. Thank you Rick "the dick" Sanchez  Sad


User currently offlineZKSUJ From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 7107 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 3952 times:

Man, sad story, the media should not have played the clip no matter what the outcome was.

User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3943 times:

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 4):
NOPE, but as the father of a 6 and 3 year old I expect that unless you hire a baby sitter, take the kid to daycare or otherwise entrust the care of your child to someone else, you are FOOLISH to not keep an eye on your kids 24/7. Why was the trunk open in the first place???

I can only imagine the car was probably unlocked. Auto trunk release. Bang, it's open.

Some cars - and I don't know which ones because I haven't owned a car in thirty years - have a trunk release inside. I know the early 1990s model Ford Escort did, my wife had one.

Quoting Pendrilsaint (Reply 5):
I can't believe the local CBS station showed the clip of him discovering the three children dead on the evening news!!! Ugh, distasteful of them!

Agreed.


User currently offlineQANTASforever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3921 times:

I don't know if this car had auto-release, but in my opinion ALL cars should have auto-release. It's just common sense as far as I'm concerned.

QFF


User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks ago) and read 3892 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 9):
have a trunk release inside.

Mine does, but I hope no on I know ever needs to use it.

The thing that MIGHT be shown in this case is that MAYBE they had one too, the only problem being that with 3 boys in such a small space, and maybe playing like they were going to take a nap, they ran out of oxygen before anyone thought there was a problem. Honestly not a bad death, if I have do die 'un-naturally' O2 deprivation doesn't seem too bad, just LOC then death.


User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3857 times:

Sounds fishy. I hope the cops are investigating the parents. If they told the cops and firefighters, "We already looked in there," then it makes the parents suspects. If I were called out to help with a search and a parent told me they already checked the trunk, I'd wouldn't trust them. I would want to check it myself...with another professional rescuer as a witness.

Mark


User currently offlineCORULEZ05 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3858 times:

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 12):
I hope the cops are investigating the parents. If they told the cops and firefighters, "We already looked in there," then it makes the parents suspects.

If the father was guilty per say, why would he later go in the trunk????? I mean, that would be giving it away don't you think? My gut feeling is that these kids locked themselves in there and died as a result. Unbelievably sad story this one is. I love how the media played barely ANY attention to this story. Yet they are all up in arms about the girl missing in Aruba. I would think they would pay more attention to the boys since IT HAPPENED IN THE UNITED STATES and people could do something about it from watching the TV. But of course they were hispanic boys after all....


User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3841 times:

Quoting CORULEZ05 (Reply 13):
But of course they were hispanic boys after all....

Sorry but 3 hispanic boys that we KNOW are dead aren't worth a pretty blonde 18 year old chick who "might still be alive".











If you think I meant that you are on CRACK...


User currently offlineGEEDO From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 366 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3816 times:

The Associated Press story I'm reading on a local TV stations website says the hydraulic plunger that keeps the trunk lid open was not working and allowed the lid to close. The vehicle in the photos is a 92-95 body style Camry which has opposing torsion springs on the trunk, not a hydraulic piston.

Terribly sad story, but the malfunction they claim cannot happen on this car.



I've got Titanic hopes and they aren't sinking
User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9367 posts, RR: 26
Reply 16, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 3816 times:

Quoting Captaingomes (Reply 3):
I'm a huge fan of the Darwin awards, but this is truly sad. You don't expect kids of that age to have the foresight to avoid locking themselves and dying in the trunk of a car. But let's wait for the autopsies to be sure though.

i join you on that but then again the boys were what...5 and 6? and the one who is 11 was reported as having the mental capactiy of a 4 or 5 year - old. so.....



if assumptions could fly, airliners.net would be the world's busiest airport
User currently offlineAa757first From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3350 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 3770 times:

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 11):

The thing that MIGHT be shown in this case is that MAYBE they had one too, the only problem being that with 3 boys in such a small space, and maybe playing like they were going to take a nap, they ran out of oxygen before anyone thought there was a problem. Honestly not a bad death, if I have do die 'un-naturally' O2 deprivation doesn't seem too bad, just LOC then death.

I don't think most trunks are air tight. I live about an hour and a half from Philadelphia and I know it has been really hot around here lately. They probably died of heat stroke.

AAndrew


User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 3762 times:

Quoting Aa757first (Reply 17):
I don't think most trunks are air tight. I live about an hour and a half from Philadelphia and I know it has been really hot around here lately. They probably died of heat stroke.

You are ignoring this: http://apnews.myway.com/article/20050625/D8AUUGN80.html N.J. Boys Said to Accidentally Suffocate

You don't have to be in an 'airtight compartment' to suffocate..just one that doesnt have enough ventalation/moving air to sustain 3 boys.


User currently offlineOzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5111 posts, RR: 21
Reply 19, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3747 times:

And people still bring kids into this world...and then ignore them.

Sorry, parents at fault.



Next Up: STL-LGA-RIC-ATL-STL
User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3739 times:

Quoting CORULEZ05 (Reply 13):
I love how the media played barely ANY attention to this story.

I guess your cable is out, or your Satellite is malfunctioning. Hell of a lot of news coverage on this on all the networks . . .yes, even way up here in the Arctic. Breaking News when they were reported missing. Constant coverage while the search progressed. Breaking news when they were unfortunately found dead.

Hey, here's a novel thought - try actually turning ON your television. News coverage is better that way!  sarcastic 

Quoting CORULEZ05 (Reply 13):
But of course they were hispanic boys after all....

 redflag  Doesn't matter that they are hispanic. Still three missing children. And your comments show only one thing - that you yourself are racist. But of course, we already knew that. Grow up.


User currently offline767Lover From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3732 times:

Quoting OzarkD9S (Reply 19):
And people still bring kids into this world...and then ignore them.

Sorry, parents at fault.

Huh? Didn't you ever play in the backyard as a kid while mom made dinner? I think it's unrealistic to expect one adult to have eyes on kids every single minute, 24/7. It's a tragic accident.


User currently offlineQANTASforever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3722 times:

Quoting OzarkD9S (Reply 19):
And people still bring kids into this world...and then ignore them.

I think that is an extremely insensitive thing to say. These kids were playing and rough housing around their own house - that's what normal kids do. I remember when I was a kid, because we live right on Sydney harbour, that I was always falling in the water, or getting under the house or some other place to play "hide and seek" or whatever. It didn't mean that my parents ignored me!

Hindsight is a beautiful thing, and it's completely unfair of you to turn around and have a go at the parents. It's a really REALLY low blow.

QFF


User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 14026 posts, RR: 62
Reply 23, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3715 times:

When I was a kid, I've heard about a similar accident happening to a boy who hid inside an old scrap 1950s refrigerator, those built before they had the magnetic seal on the door, they had a big lever lock on the outside, impossible to open from the inside. The children were playing hide and seek.

Jan


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29799 posts, RR: 58
Reply 24, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3690 times:

Freezers and Car Trunks have killed many kids over the years, and this incident is probably just another sad example of that happening.

The kids where right where they where supposed to be, in their yard.



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
25 OzarkD9S : So I get flamed because parents don't have the forsight to watch thier kids? Excuse me. Anyone who is even remotely aware of what a sick world we live
26 MD11Engineer : Bullshit! I think in many cases parents today are overprotective and literally condeming their kids to be couch potatoes. I grew up in the 1970s and c
27 ANCFlyer : I agree. Today's children are virtually, in some cases, under house arrest. Now, I recall when my Daughter the same age as these children, and she ha
28 OzarkD9S : That was the 70's. Does a day go by anymore we don't read about some kid getting snatched or killed? Let them run free and you'll be sorry. And so wil
29 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Noooo, that was 5 years ago. She had her share of scrapes and bruises and one run in with a wayward moose (now THAT got my attention - fence paid for
30 MD11Engineer : I think the number of incidents staid more or less the same, but what was formerly just a matter for the local press once a day is now published nati
31 Post contains links and images ANCFlyer : UPDATE! Deaths ruled accidental. Children suffocated http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/06/25/missing.boys/index.html
32 TedTAce :
33 PHLBOS : I believe by the 1990s, nearly every car offered an inside trunk release button as standard equipment. Back in the '70s & '80s, it was only an option
34 Post contains images Superfly : This is a total tragedy and may there souls rest in peace. I guess this sucka who owed me money got off easy!
35 Mirrodie : I can't believe the local CBS station showed the clip of him discovering the three children dead on the evening news!!! Ugh, distasteful of them! Whoa
36 Jalto27R : I believe a minute or so after. All the neighbors going insane.
37 Pendrilsaint : On one of the CBS affiliates in Atlanta they showed the video of the father actually discovering the children. He basically spins around screaming and
Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
Missing Cnet Editor Found Dead In Oregon posted Wed Dec 6 2006 22:03:23 by S12PPL
UK Children Found Dead In Corfu posted Thu Oct 26 2006 13:32:34 by Jamesbuk
Woman Found Dead In Norway (Weird Headline) posted Tue Sep 12 2006 13:10:35 by Thom@s
Missing Student Found Dead In Landfill posted Thu Apr 27 2006 03:55:42 by Luv2fly
Actor Chris Penn Found Dead In LA posted Wed Jan 25 2006 04:54:32 by Virgin744
Mass Murderer Found Dead In Cell posted Tue Jan 13 2004 11:27:16 by Banco
"Mr.Perfect" Found Dead In Hotel Room posted Tue Feb 11 2003 17:11:43 by MSYtristar
Dee Dee Ramone Found Dead In L.A. posted Thu Jun 6 2002 22:27:41 by RealHigh
Found This In Sainsburys... posted Wed Nov 1 2006 23:18:14 by 9V
'I Found A Finger In My Sandwich' posted Sat Oct 21 2006 20:34:41 by 9V