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Who Here Went To Boy's/Girl's State In High School  
User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7780 posts, RR: 16
Posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2056 times:

I am interested to see which of us took part in this interesting opportunity in high school. What state and year did you do it? Why did you do it? What office (if any) did you hold? What did you think about it?

I went to Arizona Boy's State, 1997.

Kinda curious to see what you think. It was very hyped up at my high school and was very competitive to get into. I'll share my thoughts on this a bit later though.


Stop drop and roll will not save you in hell. --- seen on a church marque in rural Virginia
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User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 977 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2043 times:

My brother went to Texas state wrestling in his weight class four times in four years and placed in the top-four three times. He was definitly a wrestling badass, despite not eating for a few months...

I did get to state once... for band (4th chair French Horn)  praise 


User currently offlineGreyhound From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1026 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2043 times:

Arizona Boys State... can't remember the year, I'm wanting to say 1997, could have been 95 or 96. I did it because I was nominated for it, and it looked like something fun to do. If I remember right, I was the asst. fire chief and elections officer for the "city" of Kearny. I enjoyed it. Even if you never get into a government job, it gives you a good idea about how the government and politics in general worked. Politics especially.... the part I didn't like was that unless you were from a larger area (Phoenix, Tucson or Flagstaff) you probably weren't going to hold any of the important offices like governor or lieutenant governor or any of that crap, because all your buddies from the area would vote for you. Overall though, it was a fun experience. I'd recommend it to anyone in high school. It beats just reading out of the same history books day in and day out. Anyhow, I remember it was held up in Flagstaff at NAU. Nice campus.


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User currently offlineGreyhound From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1026 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2041 times:

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 1):
Texas state wrestling in his weight class four times in four years and placed in the top-four three times. He was definitly a wrestling badass, despite not eating for a few months...

I did get to state once... for band (4th chair French Horn)

No offense or anything Dfw, but I think he meant Boys State as in an American Legion sponsored government/politics learning experience, not band or football or anything like that.



29th, Let's Go!
User currently offlineGarnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5395 posts, RR: 52
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2035 times:

Quoting DesertJets (Thread starter):
I am interested to see which of us took part in this interesting opportunity in high school. What state and year did you do it? Why did you do it? What office (if any) did you hold? What did you think about it?

I went to Arizona Boy's State, 1997.

Kinda curious to see what you think. It was very hyped up at my high school and was very competitive to get into. I'll share my thoughts on this a bit later though.

I did South Carolina Palmetto Boys State in 1999 and held the offices of attorney for my city and county as well as State Attorney General and was a first alternate to Boys Nation. I did it because I was (and still am) very interested in government and politics and thought it would be an interesting way to learn about state politics. To that end I was impressed with the program in that there was a wide variety of speakers from both sides of the political spectrum including Charleston Mayor Joseph Riley, Senator Strom Thurmond, political writer Lee Bandy, and a member of the South Carolina House of Representatives. It wasn't too hyped up at my high school - teachers nominated students and those students were then interviewed by a faculty committee who selected the 4 Boys Staters and the 2 Alternates.

One of the other things that I enjoyed was that you were brought together with guys from different political leanings, different walks of life, and different backgrounds. My city, for instance, had one guy each from Columbia, Charleston, and Spartanburg, but there were also a lot of guys from towns I'd never even heard of, who'd grown up on farms, and who, if it were not for that experience I think I'd never really know or understand their views on things. I loved the experience through and through and I credit it for helping transform me from a pretty shy, retiring type, to someone who doesn't get nervous or uncomfortable in new situations. It was a bit unnerving to speak in front of the entire Boys State, for instance, when I made my campaign speech, but I soon grew comfortable. Result? Public speaking in large groups isn't something I'm afraid of anymore.

I enjoyed the program greatly and can think of no real complaints about it. I do know that several of my female friends who attended Girls State weren't as happy with that program because at times they felt it taught "how to be a politician's wife" as opposed to "this is how government operates."



South Carolina - too small to be its own country, too big to be a mental asylum.
User currently offlineGreyhound From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1026 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2029 times:

Quoting Garnetpalmetto (Reply 4):
wide variety of speakers from both sides of the political spectrum including Charleston Mayor Joseph Riley, Senator Strom Thurmond, political writer Lee Bandy, and a member of the South Carolina House of Representatives. It wasn't too hyped up at my high school - teachers nominated students and those students were then interviewed by a faculty committee who selected the 4 Boys Staters and the 2 Alternates.

I didn't even know about it until I got nominated for it. We had speakers like the Governor at the time (the corrupt) Fife Symington, and the then mayor of Phoenix at the time, Terry Goddard. I had alot more fun in some ways when I went to the National Youth Leadership Forum on Defense, Intelligence and Diplomacy. I still to this day have 0 clues as to how I got picked to go on that one.

We ended up going on a tour of the Pentagon, Patuxent River Naval Air Station, and we went to the National Press Club to hear a speech from some Undersecretary of State for some kind of crap I can't remember. We went touring around D.C. a bit and got into more National Security/policy procedures there. I held the office of Deputy Director, Central Intelligence Agency (a contradiction in terms, government and intelligence).



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User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7780 posts, RR: 16
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2021 times:

Greyhound, we may have been there in the same year. But I doubt it. I don't remember Mayor Goddard speaking at my Boy's State. I don't believe he was mayor then. In fact I don't think he was mayor for many years at that point, he had an unsuccessful bid for Governor around then. Got beat out by Eddie Basha for the Democratic Party nomination too.

Frankly I vaguely recall Boy's State. Obviously it wasn't a pivotal moment in my teenaged life like it was for GP. Being a somewhat snotty, know-it-all, over-acheiving kid I didn't really buy into the program. I felt that a lot of the sessions that the old guys taught was stuff that this honors student already knew. Frankly I felt like I was being talked down to. Plus I didn't like the "boy" part either. Though looking back, 16 is hardly an adult.

The head American Legion guy I did not like at all. The guy was pretty cold and a bit on the mean side. A few of the old guys were pretty cool, but I would have hoped that they might have shared a bit more about their lives and experiences than they did. The junior counselors and town leaders were the best. Mine was a rising 4th year at Norwich Military Academy and an aviation buff (he was going into the B-1B flight program, so he said). He was an interesting guy and I tried to match wits with him.

In my freetime I pretty much ran off and wandered about the NAU campus, usually ending up in the library to play around on the internet (which was a novelty in 1997). I did get a political office, county supervisor. And we did absolutely nothing. Which was easy as our county office was in the basement off in a corner of the building we were all in.



Stop drop and roll will not save you in hell. --- seen on a church marque in rural Virginia
User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 977 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2017 times:

>>
No offense or anything Dfw, but I think he meant Boys State as in an American Legion sponsored government/politics learning experience, not band or football or anything like that.


Oh, in that case... no and havn't heard of "Boy's/Girl's State" ...  Wink


User currently offlineGreyhound From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1026 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2013 times:

Quoting DesertJets (Reply 6):
I don't remember Mayor Goddard speaking at my Boy's State. I don't believe he was mayor then.

Maybe I was wrong and it was a different mayor then. but I remember the mayor of PHX came up, and there was some presentation of a birthday card given to his new quintuplets/quadruplets? if I remember right.

Quoting DesertJets (Reply 6):
The head American Legion guy I did not like at all.

If I remember right, the head guy at the time I went was a Dr. Charles Vawter.



29th, Let's Go!
User currently offlineGarnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5395 posts, RR: 52
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2006 times:

Quoting DesertJets (Reply 6):
The junior counselors and town leaders were the best. Mine was a rising 4th year at Norwich Military Academy and an aviation buff (he was going into the B-1B flight program, so he said).

I'll agree with that. Both of my JCs were going to be attending the Citadel and this was when the program was held there (it's since moved to USC's campus) and they were both very interesting guys. One of them, Ashley, wanted to drive Hornets for the Marine Corps. I'd love to know if he got his wish. Our senior counselor, Will played football for Clemson, but was a good guy otherwise  Wink He was the "strong silent" type but tried to befriend everyone of us in his city. One thing I do remember is that his girlfriend came to visit one day and he had us all sing for her which caused her a LITTLE bit of embarassment.



South Carolina - too small to be its own country, too big to be a mental asylum.
User currently offlineSan747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4943 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2004 times:

My best friend just went to one in CA last week...


Scotty doesn't know...
User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13115 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1985 times:

I attended Boys State in New Jersey in June 1971, at the end of Junior year of High School. It was held at Rider College (now Rider University) in Lawrenceville, NJ. We were all divided into 2 parties 'National' and 'Federal' (Nats and Feds). There were about 900 some young men there. It was hot, humid, no a/c in the dorm rooms we lived in, we sang, we talked, and leared a lot of NJ municipal and state government. We had sessions on politics, speakers including the sitting Governor of the state, and canidates for state office. I recall I held some 'town' office (dog catcher or something like that, but actually a conuncil member).
It was a great experience and directed me toward politics, including getting a Bachelor's Degree in Political Science and getting involved with the Democratic Party club in the town I have lived in since 1988.
Important issues were discussed including the Vietnam War and taxation (including imposing a State Income Tax in NJ, which would come true later in the 1970's). Our governor was Tom Byrne. His father Brenden Byrne, then a State Judge, would run for State Governor the next year, win, and serve several terms. Tom Byrne would later become head of the Democratic Party in NJ (serving for several years in the Late 1990's).
One of the most famous historical pictures as to President Clinton was when he attended Boys Nation and shaking then President Kennedy's hand. (he was elected Arkansas Boys State Goverenor).


User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7780 posts, RR: 16
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1964 times:

Quoting Greyhound (Reply 8):
If I remember right, the head guy at the time I went was a Dr. Charles Vawter.

That was the guy's name. Didn't like him. I didn't get my t-shirt when I checked-in on the first day and went into the office to go get one as we were going to be having our group photos taken later that day. The response that I got from him and his wife was one I did not expect, like I was crazy or stupid or something like that.

Oh, as for one of the speakers it might have been Paul Johnson, who was the mayor of Phoenix at the time. I think he also had a failed bid for the governorship too.


Greyhound, if you don't mind me asking, but what high school did you go to in AZ? I went to Mountain View (Mesa).



Stop drop and roll will not save you in hell. --- seen on a church marque in rural Virginia
User currently offlineShawn Patrick From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2608 posts, RR: 16
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1947 times:

That summer, I decided I'd rather take a trip to Europe instead of Boys State Big grin

User currently offline9V-SPJ From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 752 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1919 times:

I went to Boys State 2002 in CA. I was a city clerk and was on the newspaper staff. Gathered all the election coverage as as well.

9V-SPJ


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