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Ebay And Bidders From Nigeria, New Scam?  
User currently offlineCatatonic From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 1155 posts, RR: 3
Posted (9 years 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2046 times:

I was selling my phone on ebay. I stated in the auction that I would post to the UK and Ireland and would accept paypal, cheque and nochex. The winning bid was a guy who wrote me this:

"Hello,
I'm the winning Bidder of your item and i;ll love to complete this transaction as soon as possible.
I'll need a great favour from you in Which I'll be very much appreciated if you could help me out.I'll want you to help m in posting this item to my friend on medical reseach to Nigeria through Registered mail with the fastest service they render.
I'll be the one to responsible for the shipping cost please help me out in getting the shipping cost.
Here is the shipping address
Name:xxxxxx xxxxxx
Address:xxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxxx
Osun state
Nigeria
xxxxxxx
I'll love to read from you soonest.
For the payment I'll not be able to make the payment through Paypal just because my account is undergoing some problem in which I was informed by paypal that it will take them up to 2weeks to solve it.
But all is still ok I can make the payment through an online payment in which the funds will be deliver to you at your address in cash.I'll want you to get your full name and address sent to me.
The shipping cost should be aroun10-14 pounds.
I'll wait to read from you the payment will be made out as soon as the payment address recieved.
Thanks."

I sent him an email saying he should have read the item description, I dont post outside the UK are Ireland and also dont accept cash. No reply. Looking at other listings from Ebay a lot of them are making reference to these Nigerian bidders. Whats going on??? Is this a new type of scam??


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User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17369 posts, RR: 46
Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2034 times:

Quoting Catatonic (Thread starter):
Is this a new type of scam??

If it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck...



E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineCatatonic From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 1155 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (9 years 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2026 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 1):
If it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck...

Yeah but although this smells of fish it looks like chicken if you know what I mean. I dont understand how this could be a scam, its not as if he was going to milk me of money as they must know I wouldnt send the phone without recieving payment.



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User currently offlineDavid L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 9524 posts, RR: 42
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2020 times:

OK, I'm not sure how online payments work. Could it be that you wait till the money's in your account, send the phone and then get told by the bank a month later that the payment was dud and they're debiting your account? That's how they do it with cheques - you think you're OK as the cheque's cleared but the bank takes longer to discover that it was stolen, etc.

User currently offlineSoyuzavia From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 594 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2016 times:

Indication 1 it is a scam -- Paypal is not available in Nigeria
Indication 2 -- the person is in Nigeria
Indication 3 -- the item is never for them -- it's usually for a dying sister or some shit like that
Indication 4 -- they are offering another online payment system -- I bet my bottom dollar they are talking about Bidpay by Western Union -- it is a money order system which is legitimate -- unless it's being used by Nigerians -- what they will do is email you to tell you they have paid Bidpay. You will also receive an email from "Bidpay" confirming this -- except the email isn't from Bidpay (check headers, etc) -- they will then push you to mail the item as your payment is now guaranteed -- it isn't, you are still able to cancel it due to being a c/c payment -- but the 'money order' 'cheque' you will receive will either be stolen or fraudulent -- you will cash it, and everything will go ok...except maybe 6-8 weeks down the track you get a letter out of the blue from your bank saying that the check/money order is fraudulent and that you are liable for all of the amount. So you are out of your money and the phone.

It's a scam and it's one of the oldest scams in the book. If you actually have his name and address -- the name is likely to be fake, but the address isn't -- check with the Nigerian high commission website in the UK -- they have contacts listed there for such scams, and they are taking a more proactive approach these days to online fraud.

Also, check out www.scamorama.com


User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11446 posts, RR: 76
Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2014 times:
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A scam from Nigeria? NO! Never!

Perish the thought!



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User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1999 times:

http://www.419eater.com

Hours of enjoyment!


User currently offlineOly720man From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 6689 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1994 times:

Check with ebay and check with paypal to check if the person really has an account with them. But as reply#4 says, if it involves Nigerians with a sob story it'll be a scam.

As far as the paypal problem goes, that's BS, unless he's had a scam email telling him his account has a problem, in which case it's still BS.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39720 posts, RR: 75
Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1974 times:

Quoting DL021 (Reply 5):
A scam from Nigeria? NO! Never!

I agree!
They aren't scam artist, I give them money all the time. I get there emails.  Silly  Silly  Silly

Quoting Catatonic (Reply 2):
Yeah but although this smells of fish it looks like chicken.....

Sounds like a woman that needs to take a shower. Big grin



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User currently offlineDavid L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 9524 posts, RR: 42
Reply 9, posted (9 years 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1964 times:

Quoting FlyingTexan (Reply 6):
http://www.419eater.com

Hours of enjoyment!

I'll check that out. There's also this one - just one guy's efforts and I don't know if it's included in the 419 site. Had our whole office in stitches.
http://www.axiusnews.com/brad-c/directory02.htm


User currently offlineSSTjumbo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1945 times:

Quoting Catatonic (Thread starter):
"Hello,
I'm the winning Bidder of your item and i;ll love to complete this transaction as soon as possible.
I'll need a great favour from you in Which I'll be very much appreciated if you could help me out.

That's as far as you need to go, and you don't have to sell him jack squat. If it looks too complicated to comprehend, it is too complicated to comprehend, and it's a scam.


User currently offlineDavid L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 9524 posts, RR: 42
Reply 11, posted (9 years 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1926 times:

Quoting SSTjumbo (Reply 10):
If it looks too complicated to comprehend, it is too complicated to comprehend, and it's a scam.

Yup. The bottom line is that money would appear in your account so you'd send the goods. Only after that will the bank come back and say "sorry, we'll just take that back".


User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7405 posts, RR: 50
Reply 12, posted (9 years 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1918 times:
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This is like the letter I got from some guy in South Africa who claimed to be an attorney and said he had a 3.2 million dollars(the figure was in Rands, with a USD conversion) trust that was left with no hier and said he would share it with me if I gave him my bank account number, my phone number, and a photo-stat of my drivers license and passport. I reported it to the FBI and sad they would look into it, never heard anything more about it. Shame that there are people who actually fall for these scams.


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User currently offlineBirdwatching From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 3811 posts, RR: 51
Reply 13, posted (9 years 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1911 times:

Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 12):
Shame that there are people who actually fall for these scams.

Yeah, exactly my opinion. Same thing with SPAM emails. Why do they keep coming in? Why do the Nigerian Scam emails keep coming in?

Because apparently they DO work with some people. And as long as people will keep buying p* enlargement pills off SPAM emails, they will keep sending them.



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User currently offline7LBAC111 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 2566 posts, RR: 35
Reply 14, posted (9 years 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1908 times:

I got a similar message. As soon as I did, ebay contacted me to confirm it was fraudulent and to ignore it - which I had already decided to do.

ello, Good day to you I'm so glad i'm the winnining bidder of this item and i'llm love to inform you that i'm ready to make the payment,but i'll need an favour from you and the favour is that i'm getting this for my in-law in Africa nigeria,so you will have to help me to get it shipped down to him .I' want the shipment Via Ups with the fastest service they are having.Kindly help me to confirm the shiping cost on www.ups.com http://www.ups.com and get back to me with the total cost.Regarding the payment I'll need your full name and address to make the payment in which the funds will be deliver to you at your address in cash,the payment will be made through an online payment called bidpay. I hope to read from you as soon as possible here is the shiping address NAME:Mr.Hanry ADDRESS:51 iremo road CITY:ile-ife STATE:osun-state COUNTRY:nigeria POSTAL CODE:23436 PHONE #080380607033 Regards.

7LBAC111



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User currently offlineSoyuzavia From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 594 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (9 years 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1886 times:

there ya go 7lbac111 -- bidpay -- the nigerian scammers online payment of choice.

this is the best scam site out there -- and it wasn't a nigerian 'victim' but rather one in london -- although he could have been a nigerian living in london.....

http://www.p-p-p-powerbook.com/


User currently offlineIakobos From Belgium, joined Aug 2003, 3312 posts, RR: 35
Reply 16, posted (9 years 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 1856 times:

Quoting David L (Reply 11):
The bottom line is that money would appear in your account so you'd send the goods. Only after that will the bank come back and say "sorry, we'll just take that back"

Excuse me gentlemen, can you please inform which bank(s) does credit a cheque BEFORE having actually received the funds (or at the very least the confirmation by the issuing bank) ?
Did I miss something all those years or is it standard (dangerous) practice somewhere ?


User currently offlineSpringbok747 From Australia, joined Nov 2004, 4387 posts, RR: 10
Reply 17, posted (9 years 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1836 times:

Yeah, that's a scam. My hotmail inbox is flooded with crazy e-mails from some Mrs Objanussu...and all the shit is about her dying husband.

That's why I never even bother to check my hotmail account now, because it's full of crap.



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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1825 times:

This lady has fun with these scammers too....

http://www.bustedupcowgirl.com/scampage.html


User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 53
Reply 19, posted (9 years 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1820 times:

There was also a great bit on one of the TV Newsmagazine shows (Dateline, I think it was) recently, where they investigated the 419 scam by playing along, and eventually they actually met up with the real scammers...it was one of the best things Ive ever seen on TV...very well done (and uproariously funny at the same time)...

Greg



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User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1815 times:

I´m curious, was it a new user on Ebay? Some Ebayers refuse to sell to people with new accounts.

User currently offline7LBAC111 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 2566 posts, RR: 35
Reply 21, posted (9 years 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1779 times:

Mine was a new user, who was promptly deleted by ebay shortly thereafter.

7LBAC111



Debate is what you put on de hook when you want to catch de fish.
User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (9 years 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1753 times:

Exactly it costs money to build up a good record since Ebay charge money for each auction. You basically need to put up an auction with a fake goods and
win it with another account, pay Ebay for the auction and give yourself good feed-back.


User currently offlineSSTjumbo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (9 years 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1705 times:

Here's another fantastic way to handle scammers:


www.ebolamonkeyman.com


User currently offlineDavid L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 9524 posts, RR: 42
Reply 24, posted (9 years 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1683 times:

Quoting Iakobos (Reply 16):
Excuse me gentlemen, can you please inform which bank(s) does credit a cheque BEFORE having actually received the funds (or at the very least the confirmation by the issuing bank) ?
Did I miss something all those years or is it standard (dangerous) practice somewhere ?

I know, I was surprised when I heard that. Basically, the banks I know of don't do a full check before they credit your account. The full check takes longer, even in this day and age. Don't ask me why!


25 Daedaeg : I'm always getting scam spam from someone in Nigeria. It must be the new craze. There must be a sucker out there who falls for this crap.
26 WhiteHatter : Not new at all, file a claim with EBay and get your fees back. It's just like the 419 scams, and the newsgroup uk.people.consumers.ebay is always wor
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