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IOC Kills Baseball & Softball For 2012 Games  
User currently offlineDeltaFFinDFW From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1440 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1987 times:

Baseball and softball were tossed out of the Olympics for the 2012 London Games on Friday.

The action by the International Olympic Committee marked the first time it had dropped any sports from the Summer Games in 69 years. The committee then rejected the five sports wanting to get in.

With two slots open on the program, the IOC voted from a waiting list of five sports: golf, rugby, squash, karate and roller sports. Squash and karate were nominated but rejected overwhelmingly, failing to get two-thirds approval.


http://sports.yahoo.com/top/news?slu...ap-sportsdropped&prov=ap&type=lgns

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User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1983 times:

Why should it be in the Olympics if only two or three countries play the game?

Mark


User currently onlineGarnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5395 posts, RR: 53
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1966 times:

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 1):
Why should it be in the Olympics if only two or three countries play the game?

Two or three? Baseball is a top-level sport in many countries, often countries which have little or no interest in anything else at the Olympics. Take for instance Cuba, Japan, South Korea, Panama, Nicaragua, Puerto Rico, Venezuela, the Dominican Republic, Canada, Mexico, Australia, and Colombia.



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User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1959 times:

Sorry. I was thinking it would be Japan, USA, and Canada.

Mark


User currently offlineLH423 From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 6501 posts, RR: 54
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1935 times:

Probably a conspiracy between the IOC and the British so they (the British) won't have to build any baseball fields in the UK  devil 

LH423



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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21642 posts, RR: 55
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1921 times:

While I liked seeing baseball in the Olympics, I can understand why the IOC would want to get rid of it.

I am a bit puzzled that rugby didn't make it in though.

-Mir



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User currently offlineDragon-wings From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3986 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1908 times:

Quoting DeltaFFinDFW (Thread starter):
With two slots open on the program, the IOC voted from a waiting list of five sports: golf, rugby, squash, karate and roller sports.

What are roller sports? They talking roller hockey?

Out of those I would vote for golf and rugby.



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User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8451 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1884 times:

Rugby should have gotten in. Rugby union would have been a great spectacle and Rugby Leauge would have been a certain gold medal for Australia.

User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1880 times:

They could probably kill off a few more that might be a "Sport" but certainly aren't "Olympic" caliber . . . curling, basketball, golf, as examples . . . you can leave Rugby out too . . .

User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1880 times:

Golf was mentioned as a demonsration sport for the 1996 Olympics, with Augusta National being the host for it, but was voted down by the IOC due to the membership policies of the Augusta National Golf Club at the time.

Honestly, I think that every Olympics (It would be harder for the Winter Olympics) ought to have a demonstration sport that is a sport not currently competed for in the Olympics and is a popular sport in that country. For the London Games, I could see rugby or cricket as that demonstration sport.

If roller sports is brought in as a medal event, this could be the beginning of the Olympics adding X Games/Gravity Games events into the fray in order to attract younger viewers.


User currently offlineIAH777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 0 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1858 times:

But they have curling. Go figure.  sarcastic 

User currently onlineGarnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5395 posts, RR: 53
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1857 times:

Quoting IAH777 (Reply 10):
But they have curling. Go figure.

Winter Olympics, which is a whole other headache.



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User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1856 times:

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 9):
this could be the beginning of the Olympics adding X Games/Gravity Games events into the fray in order to attract younger viewers.

Heaven forbid they should try to make it interesting..


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29800 posts, RR: 58
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1853 times:

Let me get this straight......

They nix Baseball and Softball, sports that are played all over the world but retain........

Sycronized Swimming
Equestrian
Sailing



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User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7780 posts, RR: 16
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1848 times:

Quoting L-188 (Reply 13):
Let me get this straight......

They nix Baseball and Softball, sports that are played all over the world but retain........

Sycronized Swimming
Equestrian
Sailing

[sarcasm] Well this way you can never accuse the IOC of elitism. [/sarcasm]



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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13116 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1843 times:

One probable reason for the pulling of Baseball and Womans Softball was, as Cuba's sports authority suggested, due to the serious problems of steroids and other enhancement drugs banned in the Olympics among professional Major League Baseball players. This is despite that North America's MLB has tightened up the anti-drug rules as to their minor and major league players. That the sport has negliable involvement but for a few areas in the Americas, Asia also added to it's being dropped. Perhaps they could also drop some other sports including any involving any gun use as the games need to reduce the overall numbers of participants to hold down costs for sponsors.

User currently offlineDerico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4306 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1841 times:

The problem was not baseball, it was softball.

No one, and I mean no one, plays softball anywhere, only the US and that is a fact. It's like giving away a gold medal (no disrespect meant to the US girls that won it), but that is the truth. And it was in the olympics to begin with because of the requirement that for every male sport in the games there must be a female counterpart.

That's probably why rugby has such a hard time getting into the games too.

Just wait till the 2016 Olympics... to listen to the national anthem of the winner of the Gold medal in the newly introduced olympic sport of Poker.



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User currently offlineSprout5199 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1853 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1832 times:

They did it because it is All Americian like Apple Pie and Chevy.

Dan in Jupiter


User currently offlineTbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7013 posts, RR: 26
Reply 18, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1806 times:

Man, ridiculous. The baseball in the olympics is really good! There are top teams from all over the world! If there are 16 teams, that is plenty of competition for three medals. Its a lot of fun to watch if you ask me.


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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21642 posts, RR: 55
Reply 19, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1795 times:

Quoting IAH777 (Reply 10):
But they have curling. Go figure.

What the hell is wrong with curling?

-Mir



7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
User currently offlineQANTASforever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1793 times:

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 7):
Leauge would have been a certain gold medal for Australia.

I love your optimism.

As for golf - would be funny seeing Fiji beat the USA in something.

QFF


User currently offlineMrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1773 times:

If Paris had received 2012, it would have been the French fault  Wink

to be honest (and most of you will think I am insane after reading the next lines), I think Baseball and Softball do not belong to Olympics (Karate and Squash would have been a fine addition though!). It seems like these sport were only introduced for teh favor of a very specific set of nations (as with some other sports, too).. as we are talking about the Olympics, why not do this for another region, i.e. introduce Cricket (as it was 1900 in LON, afaik) as sports? You people would not imagine what hysteria in Asia (and parts of Africa) would start, how happy this would make people! And...


...


even if you think I am insane now, I am sure tha Aussies and Kiwis will back my idea (especially the former, as they will for sure win god with their amazing team - should they not be trashed by Bangladesh again Big grin - sorry.. )

Just a list of nations that would be potential:

- Pakistan
- India
- Sri Lanka
- Bangladesh
- Kenya
- South Africa
- Tanzania
- West Indies
- UK
- Aussieland
- Kiwiland
- Canada (maybe on a wildcard Big grin )
[- probably the US could be a strong player in the future, seeing all the Desis in the states!]


did I forget anyone?


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1769 times:

Quoting Mrniji (Reply 21):
If Paris had received 2012, it would have been the French fault

It's all George Bush's fault!

Signed:
RSmith!


User currently offlineQANTASforever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1767 times:

Quoting Mrniji (Reply 21):
introduce Cricket (as it was 1900 in LON, afaik) as sports? You people would not imagine what hysteria in Asia (and parts of Africa) would start, how happy this would make people! And...

But is it really necessary? I mean - national teams meet on a regular basis - those who are generally interested go nuts, and the rest of us change the channel. I don't know how Olympic sports are tested, but I'm not sure if the IOC would go for a sport that goes on for days and occasionally doesn't have a winner.

Quoting Mrniji (Reply 21):
- Aussieland
- Kiwiland

I kindly ask that in future you refrain from such vile colloquialistic abbreviations, just as you managed to do for the other 11 nations on your list.

QFF


User currently offlineMrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1761 times:

Quoting QANTASforever (Reply 23):
those who are generally interested go nuts, and the rest of us change the channel.

Same with many other sports! Who watches horusebackriding instead of a couple of few people in Europe maybe (and they don't even go hysteric)? If you put Cricket, it will be well more than a billion people watching!

Quoting QANTASforever (Reply 23):
I kindly ask that in future you refrain from such vile colloquialistic abbreviations, just as you managed to do for the other 11 nations on your list.

Sorry if you feel insulted or so. But don't play the baby now  Wink


25 QANTASforever : More namecalling huh? You're developing quite a reputation. QFF
26 Bill142 : Have you ever watched an international leauge match? more often then not its a farce. The only teams which come close are New Zealand and Great Brita
27 QANTASforever : I completely agree. As a Union man I wholeheartedly agree. Perhaps they can choose the winner eurovision style? lol Seriously though - just to sound
28 Post contains images Gkirk : Christ, baseball at a British Olympics. You'd have at least 50 million people falling asleep
29 Mrniji : Not a big deal - a row of ODIs (One dayers) could do it
30 QANTASforever : You'd have at least 1 billion people falling asleep if Cricket was an Olympic sport. QFF
31 IAH777 : Nothing's wrong with it. My point is that they've banned one very popular sport and one "so-so" sport, but curling (aka "glorified floor-waxing") rem
32 TedTAce : If anyone from the IOC is reading this forum, I'll get liposuction!! I would love to see 'extreme' sports invading the olympics. Sure you can throw a
33 QANTASFOREVER : Remember guys, they include Basketball - an American sport, as an Olympic event - so they aren't total "baboons". QFF
34 Garnetpalmetto : It might be American in origin but it's international in popularity. Same with baseball. IMO it's just a move by a few members from European states o
35 ZRH : These are still not many countries. In most countries Baseball is completely unknown like in all European. Most other Olympic sports are in many more
36 ZRH : I didn't know that Baseball is played in Australia. Can any Aussie enlighten me?
37 LOT767-300ER : "I didn't know that Baseball is played in Australia. Can any Aussie enlighten me?" Further to that, as a European and having visited at least 15 count
38 Post contains images Mrniji : Careful with the term "Aussie" - quantasforever and that other guy could feel insulted
39 Post contains images SQuared : He may be even more that you spelt Qantas with a "u". SQuared
40 MD11Engineer : There are a few amateur clubs, but nothing serious. Jan
41 Fumanchewd : A funny fact-even though Polish people don't play baseball, I had noticed baseball bats being sold in quite a few stores in Warsaw and Krakow. Baseba
42 Blink182 : Rowing, both sweeps and sculls, is one of the original events of the modern games and it is very competitive around the world and not limited to a fe
43 Bill142 : That could work. There is a way that it could be sorted out within the time frame of an olympics, but I don't know anything about planning events on
44 Pendrilsaint : Well....at least the world series can now officially be the world series! None of that elitist gold medal trash getting in the way. ; ) Im curious, if
45 Post contains links Garnetpalmetto : Read it and weep
46 Post contains links MD11Engineer : There are a few more: Website of the International Rugby Board: http://www.irb.com/WR/ Jan
47 Yanksn4 : One probable reason for the pulling of Baseball and Womans Softball was, as Cuba's sports authority suggested, due to the serious problems of steroids
48 QANTASforever : I know about 60 guys in DC who disagree with you. It's increasingly popular in North America, and the Japanese team really isn't that bad at all. Hig
49 Post contains images Learpilot : This is all a big ploy to make room for NASCAR to be the newest olympic, ahem, "sport" in 2016.
50 Post contains links Bill142 : The IRB was pushing for the Seven's (seven a side) to be included in the 2012 games. http://www.irbsevens.com/News/080704+OG2.htm Seven's will be play
51 Banco : The trouble with squash is that at the very highest level, it's excruciatingly boring. The rallies just go on and on and on, because the players are
52 Post contains images AC_A340 : No debate about Lacrosse yet? Now that sport can get pretty intense.
53 MD11Engineer : But why does an olympic sport always have to be spectator friendly? And who decides what is "Spectator friendly"? The TV station that want to have mor
54 ScarletHarlot : HEY!! Do not be dissing my sport! Have you guys ever TRIED curling? Until you do, you are not qualified to comment.
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