DeltaFFinDFW From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1484 posts, RR: 0 Posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2586 times:
Baseball and softball were tossed out of the Olympics for the 2012 London Games on Friday.
The action by the International Olympic Committee marked the first time it had dropped any sports from the Summer Games in 69 years. The committee then rejected the five sports wanting to get in.
With two slots open on the program, the IOC voted from a waiting list of five sports: golf, rugby, squash, karate and roller sports. Squash and karate were nominated but rejected overwhelmingly, failing to get two-thirds approval.
Garnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5537 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2565 times:
Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 1): Why should it be in the Olympics if only two or three countries play the game?
Two or three? Baseball is a top-level sport in many countries, often countries which have little or no interest in anything else at the Olympics. Take for instance Cuba, Japan, South Korea, Panama, Nicaragua, Puerto Rico, Venezuela, the Dominican Republic, Canada, Mexico, Australia, and Colombia.
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Srbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2479 times:
Golf was mentioned as a demonsration sport for the 1996 Olympics, with Augusta National being the host for it, but was voted down by the IOC due to the membership policies of the Augusta National Golf Club at the time.
Honestly, I think that every Olympics (It would be harder for the Winter Olympics) ought to have a demonstration sport that is a sport not currently competed for in the Olympics and is a popular sport in that country. For the London Games, I could see rugby or cricket as that demonstration sport.
If roller sports is brought in as a medal event, this could be the beginning of the Olympics adding X Games/Gravity Games events into the fray in order to attract younger viewers.
LTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13695 posts, RR: 17
Reply 15, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2442 times:
One probable reason for the pulling of Baseball and Womans Softball was, as Cuba's sports authority suggested, due to the serious problems of steroids and other enhancement drugs banned in the Olympics among professional Major League Baseball players. This is despite that North America's MLB has tightened up the anti-drug rules as to their minor and major league players. That the sport has negliable involvement but for a few areas in the Americas, Asia also added to it's being dropped. Perhaps they could also drop some other sports including any involving any gun use as the games need to reduce the overall numbers of participants to hold down costs for sponsors.
Derico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4361 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2440 times:
The problem was not baseball, it was softball.
No one, and I mean no one, plays softball anywhere, only the US and that is a fact. It's like giving away a gold medal (no disrespect meant to the US girls that won it), but that is the truth. And it was in the olympics to begin with because of the requirement that for every male sport in the games there must be a female counterpart.
That's probably why rugby has such a hard time getting into the games too.
Just wait till the 2016 Olympics... to listen to the national anthem of the winner of the Gold medal in the newly introduced olympic sport of Poker.
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Tbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7013 posts, RR: 24
Reply 18, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2405 times:
Man, ridiculous. The baseball in the olympics is really good! There are top teams from all over the world! If there are 16 teams, that is plenty of competition for three medals. Its a lot of fun to watch if you ask me.
Mrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2372 times:
If Paris had received 2012, it would have been the French fault
to be honest (and most of you will think I am insane after reading the next lines), I think Baseball and Softball do not belong to Olympics (Karate and Squash would have been a fine addition though!). It seems like these sport were only introduced for teh favor of a very specific set of nations (as with some other sports, too).. as we are talking about the Olympics, why not do this for another region, i.e. introduce Cricket (as it was 1900 in LON, afaik) as sports? You people would not imagine what hysteria in Asia (and parts of Africa) would start, how happy this would make people! And...
even if you think I am insane now, I am sure tha Aussies and Kiwis will back my idea (especially the former, as they will for sure win god with their amazing team - should they not be trashed by Bangladesh again - sorry.. )
Just a list of nations that would be potential:
- Sri Lanka
- South Africa
- West Indies
- Canada (maybe on a wildcard )
[- probably the US could be a strong player in the future, seeing all the Desis in the states!]
QANTASforever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2366 times:
Quoting Mrniji (Reply 21): introduce Cricket (as it was 1900 in LON, afaik) as sports? You people would not imagine what hysteria in Asia (and parts of Africa) would start, how happy this would make people! And...
But is it really necessary? I mean - national teams meet on a regular basis - those who are generally interested go nuts, and the rest of us change the channel. I don't know how Olympic sports are tested, but I'm not sure if the IOC would go for a sport that goes on for days and occasionally doesn't have a winner.
Mrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2360 times:
Quoting QANTASforever (Reply 23): those who are generally interested go nuts, and the rest of us change the channel.
Same with many other sports! Who watches horusebackriding instead of a couple of few people in Europe maybe (and they don't even go hysteric)? If you put Cricket, it will be well more than a billion people watching!
Quoting QANTASforever (Reply 23): I kindly ask that in future you refrain from such vile colloquialistic abbreviations, just as you managed to do for the other 11 nations on your list.
Sorry if you feel insulted or so. But don't play the baby now
: More namecalling huh? You're developing quite a reputation. QFF
: Have you ever watched an international leauge match? more often then not its a farce. The only teams which come close are New Zealand and Great Brita
: I completely agree. As a Union man I wholeheartedly agree. Perhaps they can choose the winner eurovision style? lol Seriously though - just to sound
: Christ, baseball at a British Olympics. You'd have at least 50 million people falling asleep
: Not a big deal - a row of ODIs (One dayers) could do it
: You'd have at least 1 billion people falling asleep if Cricket was an Olympic sport. QFF
: Nothing's wrong with it. My point is that they've banned one very popular sport and one "so-so" sport, but curling (aka "glorified floor-waxing") rem
: If anyone from the IOC is reading this forum, I'll get liposuction!! I would love to see 'extreme' sports invading the olympics. Sure you can throw a
: Remember guys, they include Basketball - an American sport, as an Olympic event - so they aren't total "baboons". QFF
: It might be American in origin but it's international in popularity. Same with baseball. IMO it's just a move by a few members from European states o
: These are still not many countries. In most countries Baseball is completely unknown like in all European. Most other Olympic sports are in many more
: I didn't know that Baseball is played in Australia. Can any Aussie enlighten me?
: "I didn't know that Baseball is played in Australia. Can any Aussie enlighten me?" Further to that, as a European and having visited at least 15 count
: Careful with the term "Aussie" - quantasforever and that other guy could feel insulted
: He may be even more that you spelt Qantas with a "u". SQuared
: There are a few amateur clubs, but nothing serious. Jan
: A funny fact-even though Polish people don't play baseball, I had noticed baseball bats being sold in quite a few stores in Warsaw and Krakow. Baseba
: Rowing, both sweeps and sculls, is one of the original events of the modern games and it is very competitive around the world and not limited to a fe
: That could work. There is a way that it could be sorted out within the time frame of an olympics, but I don't know anything about planning events on
: Well....at least the world series can now officially be the world series! None of that elitist gold medal trash getting in the way. ; ) Im curious, if