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Facts About Iraq You Won't Hear On The News  
User currently offlineSlider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6912 posts, RR: 34
Posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3077 times:

I've been critical of the whole Iraq thing, but this is something that strikes me as intriguing that we haven't heard a lick about these things. Got this in e-mail, and as it notes below, the facts are verifiable through US DOD.

Facts about Iraq you won't hear on the news

DID YOU KNOW THIS?

Did you know that 47 countries have re-established their embassies in Iraq?

Did you know that the Iraqi current government employs 1.2 million Iraqi people?

Did you know that 3100 schools have been renovated, 364 schools are under rehabilitation, 263 schools are now under construction and 38 new schools have been built in Iraq?

Did you know that Iraq's higher educational structure consists of 20 Universities, 46 Institutes or colleges and 4 research centers, all currently operating?

Did you know that 25 Iraq students departed for the United States in January 2005 for the re-established Fulbright program?

Did you know that the Iraqi Navy is operational?! They have 5-
100-foot patrol craft, 34 smaller vessels and a navel infantry regiment.

Did you know that Iraq's Air Force consists of three operational squadrons, which includes 9 reconnaissance and 3 US C-130 transport aircraft (under Iraqi operational control) which operate day and night, and will soon add 16 UH-1 helicopters and 4 bell jet rangers?

Did you know that Iraq has a counter-terrorist unit and a Commando Battalion?

Did you know that the Iraqi Police Service has over 55,000 fully trained and equipped police officers?

Did you know that there are 5 Police Academies in Iraq that produce over 3500 new officers each 8 weeks?

Did you know there are more than 1100 building projects going on in Iraq? They include 364 schools, 67 public clinics, 15 hospitals, 83 railroad stations, 22 oil facilities, 93 water facilities and 69 electrical facilities.

Did you know that 96% of Iraqi children under the age of 5 have received the first 2 series of polio vaccinations?

Did you know that 4.3 million Iraqi children were enrolled in primary school by mid October?

Did you know that there are 1,192,000 cell phone subscribers in Iraq and phone use has gone up 158%?

Did you know that Iraq has an independent media that consist of 75 radio stations, 180 newspapers and 10 television stations?

Did you know that the Baghdad Stock Exchange opened in June of 2004?

Did you know that 2 candidates in the Iraqi presidential election had a recent televised debate recently?


OF COURSE WE DIDN'T KNOW!


WHY DIDN'T WE KNOW?-OUR MEDIA WOULDN'T TELL US!

Instead of reflecting our love for our country, we get photos of flag burning incidents at Abu Ghraib and people throwing snowballs at presidential motorcades.

The lack of accentuating the positive in Iraq serves two purposes. It is intended to undermine the world's perception of the United States thus minimizing consequent support, and it is intended to discourage American citizens.

All of the above facts are verifiable on the Department of Defense website.

************************

END

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User currently offlineKomododx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3057 times:

Two points:

1. If all of the above is true, the media (obviously controlled by the government) is being stupid by not informing the public of this, which would definitely show a more positive side of the war in Iraq.

2. So what if the DOD said this? They also said Iraq was full of WMDs and I'm still waiting on their findings.

Stefano  wave 


User currently offlineTbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7013 posts, RR: 26
Reply 2, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3052 times:

Did you know that since April 28, over 1500 Iraqis have died to the insurgency?


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User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3049 times:

The media always focuses on the negative aspects. It's what they do (perhaps because society as a whole enjoys it).

User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17777 posts, RR: 46
Reply 4, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3046 times:

Quoting Komododx (Reply 1):
the media (obviously controlled by the government)

I think you're confusing the US with Italy or Venezuela.



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User currently offlineCaptOveur From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3040 times:

How long until this turns into a flamewar?

User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17777 posts, RR: 46
Reply 6, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3033 times:

Quoting CaptOveur (Reply 5):
How long until this turns into a flamewar?

Before it reaches reply 10.



E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineKilavoud From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3028 times:

You know so many things.

I stand open-mouthed.

When Iraqi people will have come up to all the US standards, they will be perfect and live in a paradise.

Hem.

Cheers. Kilavoud.


User currently offlineTbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7013 posts, RR: 26
Reply 8, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3026 times:

Did you know that almost 2,000 American soldiers have died in this war?

I wonder how many widows, fatherless children, and broken marriages that meant...



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User currently offlineKomododx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3025 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 4):
I think you're confusing the US with Italy or Venezuela.

Are you kidding me? Do you happen to watch the news (other than Fox news, of course)?

There was a report on how the DOD made TV reports on the war and then fed them to the media (CNN, FOX, etc).

Stefano  wave 


User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40008 posts, RR: 74
Reply 10, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3015 times:

Wow, I guess I should look in to buying property along the Tigris River.  Yeah sure


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User currently offlineKLMA330 From Canada, joined Feb 2005, 697 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3003 times:

Be that as it may, the US is still somewhere where it should not be.. occupying a country half a world away. Last I check, Imperialism was a thing of the past... oh wait!!! OIL... how could I forget?

Just think for a moment if the situation was reverse... regardless of how much another country could "help" the US rise its standards of living, it wouldn't matter, for being occupied is being occupied, end of story.


User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17777 posts, RR: 46
Reply 12, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2994 times:

Quoting KLMA330 (Reply 11):
Be that as it may, the US is still somewhere where it should not be.. occupying a country half a world away. Last I check, Imperialism was a thing of the past... oh wait!!! OIL... how could I forget?



Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 6):
Before it reaches reply 10.

I was 1 off!!!



E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17777 posts, RR: 46
Reply 13, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2992 times:

Quoting Komododx (Reply 9):
There was a report on how the DOD made TV reports on the war and then fed them to the media (CNN, FOX, etc).

And who created this report?



E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineKomododx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2977 times:

Not exactly what I was talking about but check this out. I will try and find the report I was talking about.

Stefano  wave 


User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2977 times:

Last I check, Imperialism was a thing of the past... oh wait!!!

Please. Compare British and other European imperialism to what we are doing in Iraq. There is absolutely NO COMMON FACTOR other than us occupying the country.


User currently offlineTheredbaron From Mexico, joined Mar 2005, 2296 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2968 times:

[irony]

Quoting Superfly (Reply 10):
Wow, I guess I should look in to buying property along the Tigris River.  

Why Buy and deal with pesky servants, better go to the Huge Club MED, they are making in Bagdad, huge pools made on the huge holes left t by bunker buster bombs.....

Hey we can go there and play striptease with some locals...

[/irony]



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User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2959 times:

I'm glad I bought 765000 new dinar when they were first issued.



Mark


User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13169 posts, RR: 15
Reply 18, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2931 times:

While some 'normal' is returning to Iraq, it isn't in key areas, especialy in the central, heavily Sunni, ex-Baathist strongholds. Sometimes, on a slow news day other than on FoxNews, they will talk about kids going back to school, the acts of decent human interaction of Iraqis with the American troops. The care and concern of the American troops on the ground for the people of Iraq that just want to live in peace. 70-80% of Iraq isn't the problem, but it is that remaining 20-30% that is. Far too many men don't have any real employment and thus have too much idle time and anger which leads to anger against someone, and the American's get blamed and attacked.

User currently offline11Bravo From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1722 posts, RR: 10
Reply 19, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2923 times:

I don’t know what media sources you regularly read/view, but I’ve seen a lot of this stuff in the main-stream media. CNN has done several features on children in Iraq over the last several weeks including stories on healthcare and education. The LA Times did an interesting feature on the Iraqi economy not long ago that discussed the stock exchange among other things.

A great deal of news, by its very nature, is bad news. That is what sells copy, and that’s what people want to read and watch on TV. Yesterday the news in the US was dominated by coverage of the hurricane. Why didn’t they have lead stories about the fine weather in other places? It must be a media bias against nice weather right?

I think a lot of folks are being either naïve or dishonest when it comes to raising this issue as though these improvements are indicative of widespread success in Iraq. There are two things that are absolute requirements to improving the situation on the ground in Iraq.

First, there must be drastic and lasting improvement in the over-all security situation for Iraqi civilians. The security situation has slowly but surely deteriorated since the end of “Major Combat Operations” two years ago. Bombings have increased. Civilian casualties have increased. We are, without question, going backwards when it comes to security. We need to change that ASAP.

Second, there must be some real progress in the establishment of a sovereign Iraqi government. The process of writing and ratifying a constitution is badly stalled and will likely be delayed significantly. The Coalition must redouble its efforts to get this process back on track.

As long as the security situation continues to decline and the establishment of a real government fails to materialize, I don’t care if we build a million schools and provide every Iraqi with three cell phones, we will continue to be very disappointed with the outcome in Iraq.

It’s like we have a car with a blown engine and no transmission and we are bragging about how we have added tinted windows and polished the hub-caps. Although those improvements are nice, it is utterly delusional to think they will make the car run any sooner.



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User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2920 times:

You know, all this is fine and dandy, but not at the cost of my brother, my neighbors, my fellow Americans…

User currently offline7FTwinOtter From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 172 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2905 times:

There is a reasonable amount of talk in the UK about the rebuilding of Iraq, I think this demonstrates the difference between commercial media and public service broadcasting, there have been many documentaries and reports on BBC radio and TV.

User currently offlineSchoenorama From Spain, joined Apr 2001, 2440 posts, RR: 25
Reply 22, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2890 times:

Quoting Slider (Thread starter):
Did you know that 47 countries have re-established their embassies in Iraq?

When one does a Google-search for the phrase above, a whole load of hits turn up from mainly right-wing websites. A really interesting hit though is one from a site about Urban Legends (1). As this latter site states, this kind of e-mails have been send before. Despite its claim that all information is verifiable on the Department of Defense website, a link with the DOD's website were this info can supposedly be found, is not provided.

The Urban Legend site states: "These types of items are generally impossible to categorize with a single truth value because they typically contain a mixture of fact, opinion, subjective statements, inaccuracies, and literally true but often misleading claims. An Iraqi citizen whose response to the earlier piece quoted above was published on the Voices in the Wilderness web site chronicled some of the differences he saw between the claims the pieces offered and his viewpoint as an Iraqi."

(To view this iraqis viewpoints on a similar e-mail, go to http://vitw.org/archives/174.)

I believe many of the claims in this particular e-mail are subjective. As long as we are not informed what the situation was in Iraq before the invasion, a claim such as '4.3 million Iraqi children were enrolled in primary school by mid October', there's really no way to know whether that claim is actually an improvement or not.


(1) http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/combatend.asp



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User currently offlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8971 posts, RR: 39
Reply 23, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2883 times:

Quoting 11Bravo (Reply 19):



Quoting 7FTwinOtter (Reply 21):

Agree, I've seen reports on CNN/BBC about the rebuilding also.

Quoting Tbar220 (Reply 2):
Did you know that since April 28, over 1500 Iraqis have died to the insurgency?

How many people were killed on average per/year under Saddam Hussein? I'm no fan of this war, but comments like these are just plain hollow and intended for inflamatory purposes.

PPVRA

[Edited 2005-07-11 20:20:03]


"If goods do not cross borders, soldiers will" - Frederic Bastiat
User currently offlineNYCFlyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1388 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2876 times:

Quoting Slider (Thread starter):
Did you know that 25 Iraq students departed for the United States in January 2005 for the re-established Fulbright program?

I met two of them in NYC recently. Great guys.

[Edited 2005-07-11 20:37:29]

25 Jetjack74 : Did you know we lost over 30,000 US Marines in the first month in the Battle for Iwo Jima? I wonder how many liberals were crying foul over that? And
26 11Bravo : Actually, there were 6,821 KIA and the battle lasted a few days short of one month (2/19/45 to 3/16/45). Of course none of this has anything whatsoev
27 Schoenorama : You won't happen to know how many liberals were among those 30,000 Marines, won't you?
28 Post contains images FlyingTexan : Jetjack – There is a slight difference between WW2 and W’s war for oil.
29 Udo : Many of the "efforts" described in the list are not really new and also existed before the invasion. Does the report show how many things changed bet
30 Slider : Imagine that. My point in sharing this info is not to paint an overly rosy picture, but it's also not to portray things as bleak, pointless and miser
31 Post contains links and images Schoenorama : After Rumsfelds' statements on where WMD would be found in Iraq, we all know how reliable DoD facts really are. There's only one word for such 'facts
32 Slider : Schoen- we can split hairs all day long if you like. My point stands that it's not as bad or as good as most would lead you to believe... The truth ab
33 Theredbaron : Our Friend Jetjack doesnt know the diference in the words WAR and INVASION....
34 B744F : The media has always loved plastering negative images on the screen because people are attracked to watching the suffering of others. Drama is a big
35 Aerobalance : Did you know that in the Korea Conflict that we lost 37,000 US soldiers in 3 years? Why aren't you crying about that also, sheesh.
36 B744F : And things like the US guarding oil facilities while many power stations, sanitation facilities etc still are inoperational just show the true nature
37 Jaysit : Did you know that on Septmber 11, 2001, over 4000 flights took off safely prior to the WTC and Pentagon crashes? Did you know that on September 11, 20
38 Schoenorama : At least that is a much more honest statement then the thread-opener. I agree many good things have probably taken place in Iraq and are still underw
39 Jaysit : Really? I don't remember seeing any images of the nearly 15,000 Iraqis who were killed as a result of "collateral damage" on our homegrown versions o
40 B744F : Thats only because people can't feel any connection to somebody like an iraqi while they do towards a fellow American, or another white person to get
41 ANCFlyer : Ha Ha Ha - I would have made the same bet as Maverick, less than a dozen posts before this thread turned in to a flame war . . . You can always count
42 Post contains images Aloges : Oh, a thread about Iraq... and people are bitching! Why, that's a new one!
43 Jaysit : Funny you should think about coffins when you think of this mess? A Freudian slip, maybe? Or is the DOD telling us that the dead will be buried in go
44 Dragon-wings : So after we destroy their air force in the first war we are paying to rebuild the Iraq air force? (If this is not right someone please correct me) Wi
45 Jaysit : ROFL !!! Their entire airforce was hidden underneath tarpaulin somewhere in the desert. And, yes, we did bomb it to smithereens.
46 Dragon-wings : What I ment to ask is why do we have to pay for a new Iraq air force? Why can't Iraq pay for it? They have enough oil to sell.
47 Tbar220 : I'm sorry, I fail to see how its hollow and intended for inflamatory purposes. Are you going to just simply ignore the fact that in just about 100 da
48 Post contains images PipoA380 : Nope. Someone took it
49 Post contains links Jaysit : Eventually we'll settle the score in barrels of oil. Don't worry. Along with other human rights organizations, The Documental Centre for Human Rights
50 Tbar220 : I'm sorry, I didn't know that relevance was important when debating something. How is World War II and the Korean War relevant to the war in Iraq? Wh
51 PPVRA : We all know about the casualties, and that the numbers aren't pretty. It's not "news." According to reply 48, it's been quite an improvement! Not tha
52 Post contains images AsstChiefMark : I know how to end the war in a few weeks: 1) Don't feed ANY Iraqis for eight weeks. 2) The ones that die aren't terrorists. 3) The ones that live are
53 Post contains images FlyingTexan : I could wake up one morning and walk across water in the Potomac River. Media says: President can’t swim. Which President said that? Well said, Jay
54 Post contains images Falcon84 : You ever notice, those who blindly support this war just take such offense at anyone who things it's wrong? All they can do is say "see, it became a f
55 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Falcon, I don't disparage anyone's belief this war was wrong . . . it's your opinion and you're welcome to it. What chaps my ass is the same is true
56 Falcon84 : It SHOULD count, ANC, but what should ALSO count is the fact that many of use don't think we should having to be rebuilding ANYTHING in that nation, t
57 ANCFlyer : Don't dispute that - didn't say the "bad" doesn't count too . . . it most certainly does. My point was simple . . . It never changes . . .
58 JGPH1A : Er, and that would be different from imperialism how, exactly ?
59 Post contains links Yu138086 : In this case, i recommend watching the movie "Wag the Dog" to give you a loose perspective of how Washington works. http://www.newline.com/sites/wagth
60 L-188 : That movie works only if a democrat is in charge, after all they predated and predicted the black beanie girl blowing the president.
61 EGGD : The news reports things that are newsworthy. How did you find out those facts? Did you go to Iraq? Did you work them out yourself? Or did you find the
62 Tbar220 : Well I'm glad it "chaps your ass". You're a military man, and I'm not. Now I understand that our opinions will differ on this, but I don't think its
63 Theredbaron : Welcome to my RR list Jaysit, you killed me with that one! Welcome back Falcon 84! back to topic... In any situation no matter how bad is it you can
64 ANCFlyer : Not at all TBar- you're obviously entitled to your opinion, just like Falcon and the others. I don't begrudge that. Your blind, obtuse inability to s
65 Post contains links Cairo : You might be right, but the Iraqis themselves disagree with you, at least insofar as the American sponsored invasion toppled Saddam and brought the s
66 Post contains links Theredbaron : Quote from one of the links: An Iraqi polling firm conducted 2,200 face-to-face interviews in 15 of the 18 governorates. The margin of error is plus o
67 Skywatch : The thing that always makes me feel indignant is when people downgrade what has been accomplished over there! If you were living under a harsh dictato
68 Tbar220 : Well I honestly don't know what else you want me to say. I gave you a very detailed view of my opinion. So will I not be blind and obtuse when I agre
69 ANCFlyer : I responded to your thread as I read it - rather than trying to respond all at once. My comments were sentence by sentence rather than all at once. C
70 Tbar220 : ANC, Thanks. filler filler
71 Post contains images OYRJA : Thats what we have been trying to tell you all this time Serious man. Some of your newsprograms over there hardly covers the World. Its mostly the US
72 FDXMECH : Which media outlet doesn't provide world coverage? >>>WHY DIDN'T WE KNOW?-OUR MEDIA WOULDN'T TELL US!
73 Falcon84 : It's not that they don't cover the world, FDXMECH-all the major networks cover world events, but they are, for the most part, just barely touched upon
74 Slider : So if the rest of the world is so enlightened, why haven't we seen perception's change? I hate our news media....thankfully, the vice grip is looseni
75 Post contains images Falcon84 : Yeah, it's being replaced by such reputable sources as Fox, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Glen Beck, etc. What an improvement.
76 FDXMECH : But Rush, Hannity, etc aren't news sources but commentators voicing opinion. The oft critiscized Fox network news reporting sector doesn't seem to me
77 B744F : Do you remember this? "WMD FOUND IN IRAQ!" a few hours later, small headlines running across the screen... "tests come back negative." Yes, great new
78 MaverickM11 : Do you remember "GORE WINS FLORIDA"? Yeah...happens to the best and worst media outlets.
79 B744F : The whole election thing was a big mess to begin with, oh by the way, that was actually correct reporting, just to fill you in.
80 MaverickM11 : Absolutely not. The election was called before the results were known. This is standard practice except for the fact that they called the results and
81 FDXMECH : What news service hasn't made a mistake? Did Fox generate the headline?
82 B744F : It wasn't just a mistake, it was an obvious ploy to do anything possible to justify an unjustifyable war
83 MaverickM11 : Same goes for everyone claiming prematurely Gore won Florida?
84 Jaysit : Talk about a bastardization of a forum posting. I guess it takes a certain kind of obsessed right winger to flap his wings and harken back to that in
85 Post contains links Jaysit : Btw, here's some more news you do hear about: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4678207.stm 26 Iraqi children blown to bits by suicide bomber. On
86 Post contains images MaverickM11 : And this... ...is what? Centrist on-topic coversation? And it's just right winger at fault of course.... [Edited 2005-07-14 01:28:21]
87 B744F : It is when you see a "news" organization trying to take sides and put anything they can on the air to justify a war by "their boy"
88 Falcon84 : Fox NEWS ANCHOR Brit Hume gave some of the credit to the big '02 GOP Congressional wins TO FOX NEWS. You want any more proof, my friend?
89 PWM2TXLHopper : And did you know that people do die in war?
90 Falcon84 : And did YOU know that those 2000 didn't have to lie just so Mr. Bush could get a place in history?
91 DC10GUY : Are the Iraqis that had the "WMD" flying the C-130's ??? How many Iraqis kids are dead because of US cruise missles from the past 15 years ??? The onl
92 Falcon84 : And the best news from the U.S., DC10GUY is "DC10GUY has left the country he doesn't give a shit about". Turnaround is fair play, bub.
93 DC10GUY : What you mean "I don't give a shit about this country" ??? I paid over 17K in federal taxes last year. Me and Dubya are square.
94 Jacobin777 : I think the war on "terrorism" should head south of the border...how many people die becaue of drugs (overdose, gang-related, etc)?? How many lives ar
95 DC10GUY : I agree 777 dude, If we spent that kind of money on Columbia ... Crack & coke would be a thing of the past. But there's no oil there.
96 MaverickM11 : And if history is any indication, sinking that money into education and the drug war would have been a phenomenal waste of money far worse than the I
97 Falcon84 : Yes, trying to educate kids and keep people off drugs is such waste, compared to fighting a war we shouldn't have been involved in in the first place
98 DC10GUY : When the demand for oil ends the Iraq war will end ...
99 GuitrThree : Do your part.. don't drive, or use the bus, or cab, or jet, or what ever you use to go to work. Then, you'll lose your job. Then you'll not be able t
100 MaverickM11 : Tell me with a straight face that the doubling in education spending has been worth the zero increase in student performance. And the drug war? Where
101 DC10GUY : I ride my bike to work 4 days a week and I live in Arizona its was 117 today !!! Osama & Dubya love your SUV ...
102 GuitrThree : You didn't know???? Yea.. you see, one day, teacher Bob was only making $50K for teaching 9 months out of the year, which we all know isn't enought..
103 GuitrThree : Ahh, so that explains it.. your brain is exposed to high temperatures for long periods of time....
104 DC10GUY : Education is the root of all that is evil. Once a person has an education he begins to question authority, question religion, and the next thing you k
105 MaverickM11 : Apparently you were educated in our illustrious public school system.
106 DC10GUY : Detroit public schools I'm sad to say ...
107 Cfalk : Education is the root of all that is evil. Once a person has an education he begins to question authority, question religion, and the next thing you k
108 Dc10guy : Yes, Cfalk, nice rant about the wonderful religious right ... How does that have anything to do with what I wrote ?
109 OYRJA : Actually yes they do. You can come over here and watch it for your self. You would actually be shocked when you see how much world coverage we get co
110 Cfalk : You said the the right hates education, because it makes people less responsive to authority and religion. I say BS. BTW, I'm talking about the mains
111 Jaysit : Because historically they were the ONLY seats of learning. So Fee Fi Fo Fum I smell the blood of an ignorant one. But today the greatest seats of hig
112 Falcon84 : You tell me with a straight face that this several hundred billion we've spent on the war in Iraq couldn't have been spent to build schools in THIS c
113 MaverickM11 : The topic is what about NEWS BIAS regarding Iraq reconstruction. No, I'm one of those people that looks at every incremental dollar spent that result
114 Post contains images Slider : But Mav- if you don't believe we should have a bottomless pit of money thrown at schools and zero accountability, then you hate children. You don't h
115 Jaysit : Oh, is that so? Well, the biggest recipients of those pork barrel projects tend to be those Republican red states that desperately needed those pork
116 ME AVN FAN : Did you know that 3100 schools have been renovated, 364 schools are under rehabilitation, 263 schools are now under construction and 38 new schools ha
117 ME AVN FAN : -> simply the wrong emphasis. the point is the positive side OF IRAQ ! -> one of the major reason for the many many attacks of the "rebels" particula
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