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Man Gets 99 Years For Stealing Cell Phone  
User currently offlineDeltaFFinDFW From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1438 posts, RR: 1
Posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2338 times:

I love Texas justice!!!

WACO, Texas - A man has been sentenced to 99 years in prison for stealing a cellphone.

Glenn Alvin Reed, 31, was convicted of robbery Thursday for stealing a cellular phone from a man's truck last fall and then hitting him several times when he demanded its return.

Jurors, who deliberated about 15 minutes, convicted Reed as a habitual criminal because he has prior felony convictions for injury to an elderly person and robbery. That bumped the minimum sentence from five to 25 years for Reed, who rejected a 15-year plea bargain offer from prosecutors.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...071205dntexcellphone.96d633a7.html

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User currently offlineBirdwatching From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 3808 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2331 times:

They should have given him death penalty, man. Where is Texas Justice when you need it?


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User currently offlineS12PPL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2330 times:

Don't get me started on "Texas justice"...But I'd guess this was strike three.....

I'm suprised they didn't execute him...Hell, isn't that well within the confines of "Texas justice" for a crime like this???


User currently offlineCheckraiser From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2320 times:

Reed also has 15 misdemeanor convictions dating to 1991, including 12 criminal trespassing convictions.

Reed, who testified during his trial against the wishes of his court-appointed attorneys, frequently went into profanity-laced tirades and told jurors he didn't care if they gave him life in prison.

"There's things I choose to do, like, if I go in a store and choose to take a Snicker's bar," Reed testified. "If you catch me, you catch me. If not, I'm going to go home and eat it up and go on about my business, dog."

Four years ago, Reed walked up behind retired Texas Ranger Capt. Bob Prince outside the McLennan County courthouse annex and said he was robbing him. Prince decided not to shoot Reed because he could tell he was unarmed, the former Ranger testified during Reed's cell phone robbery trial.

Prince easily took Reed into custody, and he later was sentenced to two years in prison, according to court records.

Reed made an obscene hand gesture toward Prince as the former Ranger left the witness stand.


This "man" has no place in society. The good people of Texas are better off with this jerk behind bars.

Let me also throw in that CA and other states also have "three strikes" laws. I'd hate to see this turn into a Texas flame fest.

[Edited 2005-07-11 22:28:18]

User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2318 times:

If you are a habitual, violent criminal, this is what happens to you. I feel no sympathy for this man, and am grateful he is off the streets.

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2310 times:

I bet that, here in Germany, he even didn't have to go to jail.

I am glad to see that such people dissapear from the streets for a long time in certain US states!

Patrick


User currently offlineCheckraiser From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2306 times:

I bet Germany doesn't have nearly as many headcases either. If your criminal element ever gets like ours your laws will be stiffened as well.

User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2291 times:

Quoting Checkraiser (Reply 6):
I bet Germany doesn't have nearly as many headcases either.

Yes but this is no reason to have such a ridiculous justice system like we have. Just one example, this retart who invented the computer virus "Sasser" got only 1.5 (?) years on parole. The guy is responsible for damages that cost millions but didn't have to go to jail, this is a complete joke in my opinion!

Quoting Checkraiser (Reply 6):
If your criminal element ever gets like ours your laws will be stiffened as well.

Why not stiff it before? I am sure that will prevent many people from becoming criminal.

Patrick

Edited for typo.

[Edited 2005-07-11 22:37:41]

User currently offlineBaylorAirBear From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 2913 posts, RR: 50
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2287 times:

I knew my hometown was newsworthy! Strangely this is the first I've heard of it. Oh well. I don't mind him being of of the streets, and especially out of my neighborhood.

BaylorAirBear

p.s.Thanks for the link



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User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8685 posts, RR: 43
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2277 times:

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 7):
Yes but this is no reason to have such a ridiculous justice system like we have. Just one example, this retart who invented the computer virus "Sasser" got only 1.5 (?) years on parole. The guy is responsible for damages that cost millions but didn't have to go to jail, this is a complete joke in my opinion!

One word: Jugendstrafrecht. That's "youth penology" in English, roughly.

I haven't heard of any criminal history that stupid kid may have, so why lock him away for years and make a criminal out of him? After all, he's an immature youngster on whom prison would definitely have a bad influence. Those bits of the story that I followed showed that he had bragged about Sasser, probably unaware of the damage this thing was going to cause.

If anyone was to punish severely, that would be the customers by not buying MS products anymore - like that's going to happen...



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User currently offlineCheckraiser From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2260 times:

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 7):
Yes but this is no reason to have such a ridiculous justice system like we have. Just one example, this retart who invented the computer virus "Sasser" got only 1.5 (?) years on parole. The guy is responsible for damages that cost millions but didn't have to go to jail, this is a complete joke in my opinion!

I read that in the paper the other day and thought he got off easy.


User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5566 posts, RR: 36
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2257 times:

Quoting Aloges (Reply 9):
I haven't heard of any criminal history that stupid kid may have, so why lock him away for years and make a criminal out of him? After all, he's an immature youngster on whom prison would definitely have a bad influence. Those bits of the story that I followed showed that he had bragged about Sasser, probably unaware of the damage this thing was going to cause.

I absolutely agree. This boy wasn't aware what he was doing and I am sure he won't do anything like this anymore. If he went to jail there would have been a big chance he would have become real a criminal.

[Edited 2005-07-11 23:11:46]

User currently offlinePope From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2243 times:

For the liberals out there who feel that this was too hard a sentence - exactly how many violent crime "strikes" do you propose we give a criminal before we sentence him to jail for the rest of his life? If 3 isn't enough, will 5 make you happy? How about 10? Should we give someone nine previous opportunities to violently assault a fellow member of society before we put him away for good?

Criminals have a choice - if they do the crime they should expect to be punished.

Perhaps in this era of political correctness, the US should adopt the Islamic legal principles of chopping off a hand if you steal. I for one would be completely in favor of such a change.


User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12388 posts, RR: 47
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2243 times:
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Quoting Checkraiser (Reply 3):
This "man" has no place in society. The good people of Texas are better off with this jerk behind bars.

So how much is it going to cost the taxpayers of Texas to take away this man's liberty for the rest of his life?



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User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2241 times:

Did the cell phone have the free nights and weekends plan?

Quoting S12PPL (Reply 2):
Don't get me started on "Texas justice"...

Ditto here.

Quoting BaylorAirBear (Reply 8):
I knew my hometown was newsworthy!

Actually, your home town is newsworthy for something that happened in 1993. But, I went to school in a more morbid town, Huntsville.

Baylor is a great school!

 spin 


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39693 posts, RR: 75
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2231 times:

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 13):
So how much is it going to cost the taxpayers of Texas to take away this man's liberty for the rest of his life?

Good question.
I am sure the same people who are saying; 'Let him rot in prison' are the same people that bitch about taxes.
It's the cost to keep these punks off the streets so they will be safe from people like this.
Why didn't anybody see this man had a problem sooner?



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User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 16, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2230 times:

So how much is it going to cost the taxpayers of Texas to take away this man's liberty for the rest of his life?

Can you say personal responsibility? It is the man's fault he is in prison, not the state of Texas. By the way, I'd rather pay a little higher taxes to get rid of these people than to have them roaming the streets hurting other people.

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlinePope From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2229 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 15):
Why didn't anybody see this man had a problem sooner?

I don't know. Let's ask his parents that question.

Oh wait - it's not PC to say that parents the primary responsibility in raising their kids. We all know that it's the state's job.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39693 posts, RR: 75
Reply 18, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2224 times:

Quoting Pope (Reply 17):
I don't know. Let's ask his parents that question.

Oh wait - it's not PC to say that parents the primary responsibility in raising their kids. We all know that it's the state's job.

Sounds like the 'family' and his 'village' has failed him.
Would you forgive him if he were to seek forgivness from you Pope?



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User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2223 times:

Quoting Aloges (Reply 9):
I haven't heard of any criminal history that stupid kid may have, so why lock him away for years and make a criminal out of him?

He is already a criminal, he invented a computer virus!

Quoting Aloges (Reply 9):
After all, he's an immature youngster on whom prison would definitely have a bad influence.

Who cares? He is a criminal who caused damages all over the world, so throw his sorry a$$ into jail for several years. I am sure that he will think twice what he is doing the next time he is sitting in front of a computer when he is out of jail after 10 or more years. Maybe he is inventing another virus in a few years when he remembers that he got away with 1,5 years on parole.

Quoting ZRH (Reply 11):
This boy wasn't aware what he was doing...

So he invented the virus by coincidence?

Quoting ZRH (Reply 11):
If he went to jail there would have been a big chance he would have become real a criminal.

As I wrote above, he is already a real criminal!

Ok, let's not turn the thread off-topic, actually it is about the guy who stole a mobile phone and not about the guy who invented Sasser.

Patrick


User currently offlineB744F From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2213 times:

Quoting Pope (Reply 17):
Oh wait - it's not PC to say that parents the primary responsibility in raising their kids. We all know that it's the state's job.

It's not the states job, rather it's the states job to ensure a good environment, one that does not breed criminals. So far, I have yet to see any "state" attempt this. Instead of fighting the poverty problem, they fight the reaction to the poverty problem and illogically think if you lock em all up, there won't be any more crime!


User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2192 times:

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 13):
So how much is it going to cost the taxpayers of Texas to take away this man's liberty for the rest of his life?

Last figure I heard was several tens of thousands of $$$ per annum. Sorry I am unable to provide more specifics at this point. But it is no trivial amount.

Quoting Newark777 (Reply 16):
By the way, I'd rather pay a little higher taxes to get rid of these people than to have them roaming the streets hurting other people.

Well, then come pay my taxes.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 15):
I am sure the same people who are saying; 'Let him rot in prison' are the same people that bitch about taxes.

You got that right, Superfly.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 15):
Why didn't anybody see this man had a problem sooner?

The problem was evident sooner. In their minds, stiffer penalties (longer jail sentences) were not available.  Wink

 spin 


User currently offlinePope From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2188 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 18):
Would you forgive him if he were to seek forgivness from you Pope?

His incarceration has nothing to do with whether or not the victim has forgiven him. A crime by definition is an offense against the state. As such, the case is labelled the People of Texas v. ________ not the individual v. __________.

Whether an individual grants forgiveness against his tormentor is between the individuals and their God. I would hope that I would be strong enough but I'm honestly not sure whether I would forgive someone who robbed me. Hopefully I will never have to confront that issue.

====

Quoting B744F (Reply 20):
It's not the states job, rather it's the states job to ensure a good environment, one that does not breed criminals. So far, I have yet to see any "state" attempt this. Instead of fighting the poverty problem, they fight the reaction to the poverty problem and illogically think if you lock em all up, there won't be any more crime!

I guess you missed the last 30+ years and the liberal "war on poverty" that has resulted in over a trillion dollars being spent to no measurable improvement.

No matter how much money is spent on a good environment as you term it, children face an uphill battle to become responsible productive members of our society when parents abdicate their responsibilities to other - or as is more often the case, ignore those responsibilities completely.

I was at the local mall today at lunch and counted no less than 20 teenaged mothers walking around with their babies - in the course of 15 minutes. No amount of spending on environment can ever have the same impact that closing their legs would have had on the lives of those teenagers. Whose job is it to communicate that message? The government's or their parents.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39693 posts, RR: 75
Reply 23, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2184 times:

The prison guard lobby and there union is one of the fastest growing and become EXTREMLY influential in state legislatures around the country.
Here in California, prison guard pay has increased 300%!
Gray Davis, Arnold Swarzeneggar and Pete Wilson were all bed buddies with there union.
Arnold Swarzeneggar couldn't stand up to them so he went after nurses and there support staff instead. What f--king girlie man he is!  Sad



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineCheckraiser From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2179 times:

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 13):
So how much is it going to cost the taxpayers of Texas to take away this man's liberty for the rest of his life?

Too much. Apparently he doesn't care for his liberty anyway because he told the jury he didn't care if they gave him life. It's too bad they have to pay for a lifetime in prison - in some countries he'd be executed without appeals.

Quoting ZRH (Reply 11):
This boy wasn't aware what he was doing

Please. If he was smart enough to engineer a computer virus he certainly knew the result. I'm sure he also knew the damage it would do and the consequences for it. They shouldn't throw away the key but a year in jail would wake him up and also set an example.

Quoting B744F (Reply 20):
illogically think if you lock em all up, there won't be any more crime!

Knowing that I could be locked up is EXACTLY what keeps me from becoming a criminal.


25 B744F : That's interesting. I guess you missed the whole biggest economic boom after WWII with said policies that have drastically reduced poverty Thats not
26 Post contains images FlyingTexan : Exactly the point our lawmakers (and some in our society that vote for them) are missing. But it’s good for families, right?
27 BaylorAirBear : Thanks. So how often did your lights flicker in Huntsville? How much money could this guy cost us by being on the streets? I bitch plenty about taxes
28 Post contains images Jdaniel001 : He must be from Jersey.... Uh..it's actually cheaper to kill people than to imprison them....That's why in Texas, we believe in hangings...uhmm, I me
29 BaylorAirBear : Finally someone shares in my loathing of Oklahoma. Welcome to my modest RR. BaylorAirBear
30 Jdaniel001 : I blame them for all the traffic in Dallas once a year.
31 BaylorAirBear : Are you a Longhorn? BaylorAirBear
32 Flyboy36y : While I hink life is too much time, this degenerate certainly should spend a 5-15 strech
33 Cfalk : From what we know, he DID know what he did was wrong. He just does not give a shit. Those who know and don't care are the most dangerous ones, IMHO.
34 Pope : No, I don't want to do anything to that effect. I do want people to take responsibility for their decision instead of making their decision my respon
35 Falcon84 : So, stealing a cell phone meets your definition of a "violent crime" Pope? Nice to know you've extended violence to such a level. I think you're just
36 Pope : The man was convicted of robbery not larceny. In order to obtain a robbery conviction the state has the burden of proof to show that the theft crime
37 Cfalk : Falcon, the guy assaulted the owner of the cellphone to get it. The cellphone is not the point. The point is that this guy is violent, has a history
38 Falcon84 : Again, it's not worth 99 years in prison, my friend. End of story, as far as I'm concerned. He didn't shoot anyone, hombre, so what you say has no me
39 Pope : So we should wait until he shoots someone before taking action. Falcon, you duck the question yet again. How many times does someone get the chance t
40 Air2gxs : You know, this thread should be titled "Habitual Offender Gets 99 Years" You know, the only way to make society better is to get these scum off the st
41 Post contains images Falcon84 : You go on the assumption he will, because you have such low opinion of much of humanity, Pope. You cannot give a guy 99 years because you THINK, some
42 Pope : The guy has been convicted of three violent crimes. There's no issue of possibility - the state has proven beyond a reasonable doubt to a jury of his
43 Daedaeg : This guy will probably get out within 5-10 years on parole. The judge probably just wanted to send him a message that his continuous screw ups won't b
44 Superfly : I was asking The Pope. He is the Holy Father and I place extremely high value in what The Pope says. However this new Pope makes me worry a bit becau
45 Post contains images Cfalk : I agree. There are plenty of productive jobs that can be done from behind bars. But only from behind bars, for this guy. And bring back hard labor. M
46 Pope : Who's this Benedict guy everyone keeps talking about?
47 Superfly : Like in North Korea? So you aren't the Holy Father? You should change your username if your're not because I find that to be offensive.
48 Post contains images Cfalk : Superfly, you don't usually make dumbass comments like that. This guy is not a political prisoner, and what's wrong with making prison a place that y
49 Pope : I find anal sex offensive but you don't see me trying to impose my personal preferences on you.
50 Post contains images Superfly : WTF?
51 Post contains images FlyAUA : Whoah!!! So how many years would you get if you were to steal, say a loaf of bread, or a t-shirt from a store, for example?
52 B744F : Sure you have a right to an education, but nothing about a quality education. And an opportunity to attend a university? What dream world do you live
53 Pope : Love the liberal mindset. We who've done nothing wrong and live our lives as law abiding citizens should be "ashamed" of ourselves; but the criminal
54 LH526 : Common! That kid was a computer nerd, off course he knew what he did! He even spread the word in his school about what he did and how proud he is of
55 Cfalk : Excuses, excuses, excuses. A wise man once said that excuses are like assholes - everyone has one. The facts are clear, and there are countless examp
56 Post contains images Superfly : Wrong. The wise man said that about 'opinions'.
57 B744F : What??? Wow way to twist around everything I said. I said you should be ashamed of yourself for so blindly buying into that whole "freedom and opport
58 B744F : Nice way of dodging the facts What facts are that? Just because less than 10% of the entire population grows up to be sucessful cnotributors to socie
59 Newark777 : What facts are that? Just because less than 10% of the entire population grows up to be sucessful cnotributors to society that means that "everybody"
60 Pope : So you're arguing that we should wait until this three times convicted VIOLENT criminal actually kills someone before we lock him away for good. His
61 Cfalk : That's because you did not give any. You just spouted a bunch of bullshit based on dogma and ideology. No facts. 10%??? What country do you live in?
62 B744F : Stop putting words in my mouth. I just said you shouldn't lock someone away for the rest of their LIFE if they don't kill somebody (where did you get
63 B744F : Quite ironic. Go reread your own posts before you call the kettle black 90%? So 90% of Americans are productive citizens? How do you classify them as
64 Post contains images Newark777 : Speaking of advocating positions without support, where is yours from exactly? Oh my God, funniest post of the day! You speak out of your ass in all t
65 B744F : I don't understand your thinking. You claim one thing without any facts to support your argument, then you turn around and demand facts and support f
66 Pope : I'm sorry but I can't find any. Perhaps you can point us in the right direction. It's easy to tell people to go find support for your argument when n
67 B744F : Anne L. Schneider, Deterrence and Juvenile Crime: Results from a National Policy Experiment
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