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London Bombers Were From Yorkshire, 1 Arrest Made  
User currently offlineBMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 58
Posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 1790 times:

Well, im sad to say that the bombers were 'local' (well to me anyway).

Police arrested someone earlier today, after carrying out a controlled explosion at his/her house.

http://www.itv.com/news/index_1168340.html

I used to live in Leeds as well  


We now also know that 1 bomber was killed in the attacks.

Comments??


Lee

[Edited 2005-07-12 19:45:33]


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User currently offlineWhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 1772 times:

Police are saying that it looks like all four died in the attack, although forensics need to be completed and the coroner to formally report first.

A related vehicle was found at Luton and the station closed. Hopefully not too many EZY and FR punters were affected.

They also have surveillance of the bombers arriving in London, and more or less now know who did it. That's the first step to locking up accomplices.


User currently offlineNA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10817 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 1764 times:

What does it mean? That they are "from Yorkshire" doesn´t mean they are necessarily British. The report does not mention that. Mentions nothing if they are local Al Qaida (as Mr.Blair was quick to say last week), or just homegrown fish-and-chips eating killers.

But if the responsibility for the horrendous attacks of last week is confirmed to be on British locals, well, I´d like to see the comment of the Prime minister.


User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 3, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 1761 times:

Pretty quick work by the police, it has to be said.


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User currently offlineSteve7E7 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 478 posts, RR: 50
Reply 4, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 1755 times:

Quoting NA (Reply 2):
That they are "from Yorkshire" doesn´t mean they are necessarily British.

According to tonight's news reports,all four suspects were of British nationality.


User currently offlineArsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7792 posts, RR: 19
Reply 5, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1746 times:
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I went past Luton train station an hour ago, the place is swarming with the media, the main road into the station is blocked and the University campus closed. All this due to a 'suspect' car. As far as the investigation is concerned, the police have stopped short of using the words 'suicide bombers', but that is what it looks like right now.


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User currently offlineNA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10817 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1735 times:

"According to tonight's news reports,all four suspects were of British nationality."

The UK has lots of more or less closed ethnic circles who are not all faithfull, though most ceretainly are. I wouldn´t wonder if some Al Qaida guys hold British passports.
Not that I would like to see that.
It would be very interesting to see why they did it if the killers are "real" British, born there and, well, Christians in a cultural sense.
Protest against the steep rising in London´s congestion charge or what?


User currently offlineGman94 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 1239 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1725 times:

Quoting NA (Reply 2):
What does it mean? That they are "from Yorkshire" doesn´t mean they are necessarily British. The report does not mention that. Mentions nothing if they are local Al Qaida (as Mr.Blair was quick to say last week), or just homegrown fish-and-chips eating killers.

But if the responsibility for the horrendous attacks of last week is confirmed to be on British locals, well, I´d like to see the comment of the Prime minister

What do you mean by this, whether the bombers were foreign or British they are still Muslim extremists and scumbags who Blair blamed. If your thinking that we'll turn on Blair like the Spanish turned on their government then you will be very dissappointed.



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User currently offlineWhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1715 times:

Limited details so far, but the Police were saying all four are British and probably British-born.

Extremists can pop up anywhere, they don't have to be directly linked to Osama and his band. It could even be a wannabe group who were fired up by other radicals and decided to do something like McVeigh did in the USA.


User currently offlineNA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10817 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1707 times:

Sorry if you got me wrong.
I don´t want anyone to turn against Blair "like the Spanish did".
And that the killers are "still muslim" I read for the first time in this thread. So far all I could gather in the media so far in the last minutes was they are "British", what lead me to think in absence of further information it could as well have been a UK version of the Oklahoma bombers. And something like that surely would require an answer of Tony Blair, don´t you think.

If the killers are UK Al Qaida or some sort of it, forget that comment about Blair I made.


User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 10, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1695 times:

NA, the police have scrupulously avoided any mention of the ethnicity or religion of the suspects. As you can imagine, people are tending to draw their own conclusions, both because of the specific area and the families the media believe are involved (in the loosest sense). Nevertheless, as far as official comment is concerned, they're only referring to "British" and "Yorkshire" people.

Hope that clears it up a bit.



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User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1689 times:

There are quite a few Al Qaeda members that are British, (like the ones who were imprisoned in Guantanamo for a while). There are are also Americans, French, Canadians, and all sorts of surprising nationalities. Anyplace, basically, with a sizable Muslim population, has unfortunately sent a few nuts into the mix.

Charles


User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 12, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1677 times:

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 11):
few Al Qaeda members that are British, (like the ones who were imprisoned in Guantanamo for a while)

Wow. That's a big statement. One without a shred of proof. In fact given that they were never charged with any offence it could be deemed libellous. Of course, this is why we have a legal system.



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User currently offlineCapital146 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2003, 2125 posts, RR: 43
Reply 13, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1677 times:

Well, living in the West Yorkshire region myself, I am saddened, but perhaps not completely shocked that these screwed up individuals are from this area.

We have the greatest integration here of native English people and Asian (mostly Pakistani) communities that you'll find anywhere. The vast majority get along respectfully and peacefully with each other, but there are bad elements on ALL sides who want to cause as much pain to those who they see as their 'enemy'. This often makes the atmosphere somewhat tense at times. Because the bombers have been described as British, of Pakistani origin, then I am worried about the potential of these extreme elements of society clashing again, remember we had race riots in Bradford around 4 years ago, the worst riots Britain had seen in decades.

The police are issuing statements to remind the public that the actions of the bombers do not reflect the Muslim faith, and have made pleas for no attacks against Muslim communities. They have said that people (of all faiths) need to look on these particular individuals purely as murders, which is what they are.



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User currently offlineOhTheDrama747 From UK - Scotland, joined Jan 2005, 291 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1678 times:

Quoting BMIFlyer (Thread starter):

We now also know that 1 bomber was killed in the attacks.

Good riddance.

Although, somehow i wish they got tortured for killing all those people with no warning.


User currently offlineBMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 58
Reply 15, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1657 times:

As for one of the bombers, his family up north, apparently reported him missing on Friday morning   

Also, the content of the news report has changed since my original post.
As you can see it now confirms the blasts were in fact suicide attacks  

Edit, obviously all 4 bombers are dead then.

Lee

[Edited 2005-07-12 20:36:57]


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User currently offlineGman94 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 1239 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1649 times:

Quoting OhTheDrama747 (Reply 14):
Good riddance.

Although, somehow i wish they got tortured for killing all those people with no warning.

No the best thing I'd like to see is for them to be tried and thrown in jail with the general prison population, they would have the same stigma attached as the rapists and paedophiles without the protection of living in a separate wing, they can becoming someone's punchbag and bitch.



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User currently offlineOhTheDrama747 From UK - Scotland, joined Jan 2005, 291 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1638 times:

Gman94,

You pretty much said what i wanted them to face. Sorry for the confusion.

Cheers,
G


User currently offlineGman94 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 1239 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1630 times:

Quoting BMIFlyer (Reply 15):
As you can see it now confirms the blasts were in fact suicide attacks

To be honest I've never understood why people go off on one when suicide bombings are mentioned. A bombs a bomb don't matter if the guy sets it of there and then or if it's on timer or detonator, your screwed either way if your in the way.



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User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1619 times:

Quoting Steve7E7 (Reply 4):
According to tonight's news reports,all four suspects were of British nationality.

But some could be members of sleeper cells who immigrated to the UK several years ago just to create chaos.


User currently offlineSteve7E7 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 478 posts, RR: 50
Reply 20, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1603 times:

Quoting Capital146 (Reply 13):
remember we had race riots in Bradford around 4 years ago,

I remember,I was caught up in it.

God forbid it doesn't all kick off again if the bombers are proved to be Muslims.

Tensions have been high in Bradford since the riots last time round,too many people remember the carnage caused by the young Asians and the effect it had on the city.It won't take a lot to encourage a few troublemakers to stir things up to go on a revenge mission.


User currently offlineBudyboy From United States of America, joined May 2005, 64 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1586 times:

When I was working in the Middle East, there were lots of Brits too. I remember some years ago that some town in Northern England had passed a law prohibiting Christmas lights because so many muslims had moved in and they considered it 'culturally insensitive'. Is that true? Think it was Bradford, or something like that. That's unbelievable if it is true.

User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12884 posts, RR: 46
Reply 22, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1583 times:
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Quoting Steve7E7 (Reply 4):
According to tonight's news reports,all four suspects were of British nationality.

This was odds-on all along.



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User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1575 times:

Quoting Steve7E7 (Reply 20):
Tensions have been high in Bradford since the riots last time round,too many people remember the carnage caused by the young Asians and the effect it had on the city.It won't take a lot to encourage a few troublemakers to stir things up to go on a revenge mission.

Carnage? The definition of carnage is "the savage and excessive killing of many people." From what I know of the Bradford riots, there were numerous injuries (close to 300) caused both by the rioters and the police, but there weren't any deaths. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Also, the Bradford riots were different. There the Asian groups said they rioted because of an impending National Front march in Bradford, and the white gangs then hit back at the Asians for the chaos and destruction they caused. It was sort of a domino effect with one group blaming the other.

In this case, those who perpetrated these crimes have no excuses and no one to blame.


User currently offlineBMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 58
Reply 24, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1556 times:

Some facts about the bombers.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4676861.stm

Amazing how quick the police found out things....


Lee



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25 Gman94 : I think your taking what people say to literally. The proper meaning of carnage is a slaughter or massacre in war. But the word carnage is more commo
26 Jaysit : I'm sorry, but it isn't. It's a very strong word that evokes death on a mass scale. Words are very powerful. It's important to use the right ones. Ju
27 Gman94 : We'll have to agree to disagree, carnage is quite commonly used in the UK.
28 Brettbrett21 : Loads of disruption today in town (luton). Dont know if its at all related but saw 2 go-arounds in a row at LTN, a business jet and then an EZY 737, t
29 B744F : investigations drag on for months, how exactly can they find "the bombers" so quickly?
30 WhiteHatter : This one didn't. The police got a few good leads including a report of one of the bombers being reported as missing by his family. There have also be
31 Gman94 : Just to add to what WhiteHatter said the whole of the London Underground, National Rail services and the most buses have CCTV fitted, the Police just
32 LTBEWR : Perhaps we are getting an outline of what happened from the new reports of the police investigations and actions today and the last few days. They hav
33 DC10Tim : This is one of the things that struck me. The main terminus of the line from Luton is St. Pancras. The train they caught was one of the Thameslink tr
34 Arsenal@LHR : Londoners correct me if I'm wrong, but access to the Underground is at King's Cross "proper", so they'd have had to walk several hundred yards down Eu
35 ME AVN FAN : -> what is so astonishing about that ? I can well imagine that none of the families involved expected anything thelike. What a catastrophe for them !
36 Post contains links FlyAUA : And here is the link regarding the bombers... just released by BBC News: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4676577.stm
37 ME AVN FAN : - very sad story -- still - or nevertheless. I feel with the victims but I also feel with the families of the culprits of whom most, certainly, were
38 Post contains links Arsenal@LHR : More developments: http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-13385127,00.html
39 QANTAS077 : what i don't understand is that British authorities admitted having no prior intelligence of this attack, yet they know who to go and arrest now?!?! h
40 ME AVN FAN : it is THREE questions you ask. It looks as if they really did NOT have any prior knowledge EVEN if having had some of the culprits under "surveillanc
41 Post contains links Springbok747 : It seems they were of Pakistani origin....no big surprise actually. http://www.manoramaonline.com/servle...1002366458912&channel=Home&count=9
42 David b. : Another dumbass comment by Springbok. When are you going to stop?
43 Scotron11 : Yahoo reports the 22 year old graduate, one of the suspects, spent 2 months in Afghanistan and 4 months in Lahore last year. So any linkup with Al Que
44 Jaysit : Actually, it is no surprise. Most British Muslims are of Pakistani (or Bangladeshi) origin. And when you consider how active Al Qaeda and other Islam
45 Scotron11 : How on earth does someone grow up in Britain and become so radicalized by Islamic fundmentalists? And when you consider how active Al Qaeda and other
46 Banco : The one thing that may have a positive outcome here is that the Muslim community leaders will be re-doubling their (already significant) efforts to st
47 Cornish : And I notice that one of the new victims names released is almost certainly from a Muslim family. People must not forget that innocent Muslims have d
48 YYZAeroEng : When UK code breakers, through the ULTRA program, cracked ENIGMA, they had access to almost all Nazi plans of attack. If the UK and her allies used t
49 7LBAC111 : Without starting a riot, I'm not surprised either. Is this likely to lead to big swing in people politics now? Will the hardline BNP generate support
50 ME AVN FAN : - there was a 24 year old French student of Tunisian origin, a Pakistani and a Bangladeshi women --- more to come
51 PMN : We did indeed. The riots were 2 miles from my house. There are still burned out buildings and melted patches on roads from burning cars in Manningham
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