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Barry Bonds May Not Return This Year  
User currently offlineSlider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6912 posts, RR: 34
Posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1763 times:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2108582

What a shock. Stop the presses. Color me surprised.

Of course he isn't going to play this year! I called this months ago. Here's the script: the dude is off the juice, he's losing weight, certainly doing rehab, but the absence allows him to get and stay clean, and when he returns, he'll claim that he lost the weight so as not to put overdue stress on the knee.

It's all so predictable and scripted....

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User currently offlineGarnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5423 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1760 times:

I'll agree with you, Slider. I wouldn't shed a single tear if Bonds never returned to baseball. Screw Mr. "I can't throw out Sid 'I run like I've got JCS17 tied to my back' Bream." If anyone doesn't agree with Slider on this, put down the orange and black Kool-Aid and think about it. Baroid (if I may borrow KROC's nickname for him) goes from this when he was with the Pirates:



to this:



Somehow I don't think the weight room in San Francisco is THAT much better than the one in Pittsburgh.

Even more disgraceful is that that joke of a commissioner, Bud Selig, did nothing about this until the heat really came on. I've said it before and I'll say it again - Selig could have found a box of syringes and a big barrel labeled "BARRY'S STEROIDS" in the Giants clubhouse and would have done jack. Baseball needs a commissioner with a backbone. Deride Gary Bettman all you want to for the NHL lockout, but the man had a backbone to stick to his guns. Selig goes whichever the way the wind (and consequently his bad rug) blows. Give me a modern-day Kennesaw Mountain Landis to do what needs to be done to clean up America's pasttime. /rant.



South Carolina - too small to be its own country, too big to be a mental asylum.
User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40036 posts, RR: 74
Reply 2, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1751 times:

So does this mean that the Giants may go on a loosing streak?
If so, that's great!
That means shorter season, which means less traffic jams!
The train line I use to&from work is the only line that goes to that damn ballpark. If there is a game, it can take up to 90 minutes to get home instead of the normal 25 minutes.



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11447 posts, RR: 75
Reply 3, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1748 times:

Bonds not returning? Better for baseball. He needs to retire quietly and try to avoid damaging baseball any further.


GP Buddy, you gotta let go of that moment. I never will, but you should move on.org there.... Big grin  Wink



Is my Pan Am ticket to the moon still good?
User currently offlineBoeing Nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1747 times:

I'd miss Bonds about as much as a f#@king hemorrhoid.

User currently offlineGarnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5423 posts, RR: 52
Reply 5, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1742 times:

Quoting DL021 (Reply 3):
GP Buddy, you gotta let go of that moment. I never will, but you should move on.org there....

Sorry, Ian, but I can't. From that moment on it's been a blur of losing season after losing season with the occasional "demolition of 3 Rivers," and "Randall Simon attacks giant sausage" to break the monotony up. How can I not forget that an outfielder sitting at short couldn't throw out Sid Bream - a man who once was in a footrace with a pregnant woman and finished 3rd?



South Carolina - too small to be its own country, too big to be a mental asylum.
User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 6, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1741 times:

Bonds never returning would be great for baseball. Also would be great to keep the all-time homer record intact and not tainted.

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlinePsa53 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3089 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1728 times:

I was a Bonds fan. What a player!
But the steroids issue has left me
bitter and like most of you,Bonds
should not returned.With Mcguire,
I'm not happy.

As a Giants/Angels/Padres fan,
The Giants need to rebuild
and get on with life.

Aaron,Ruth and Mays never
cheated.



Tuesday's Off! Do not disturb.
User currently offlineAerobalance From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 4683 posts, RR: 46
Reply 8, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1726 times:

ho-hum


yaaaaaawwwwwwn


yeah..............whatever



"Sing a song, play guitar, make it snappy..."
User currently offlineWellHung From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1710 times:

Quoting Aerobalance (Reply 8):
ho-hum


yaaaaaawwwwwwn


yeah..............whatever

I believe that is your most complete and accurate analysis yet!


User currently offlineAerobalance From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 4683 posts, RR: 46
Reply 10, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1704 times:

Quoting WellHung (Reply 9):
I believe that is your most complete and accurate analysis yet!

F*ck, now you're obsessed with me? Damn! Go away!!



"Sing a song, play guitar, make it snappy..."
User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 32
Reply 11, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1702 times:

And Hammerin Hanks's home run record is safe once more.....or at least for another 6-7 til A-Rod gets up there.

Tom at MSY

edit: it's Friday, forgive my typo

[Edited 2005-07-15 21:36:45]


"The criminal ineptitude makes you furious"-Bruce Springsteen, after seeing firsthand the damage from Hurricane Katrina
User currently offlineS12PPL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1701 times:

Who cares? He's a cry baby roid head who cries because the media covers him. I don't care if he never comes back to baseball. Baseball is better off without him. We wouldn't have to wonder how many home runs he could have hit off of steriods.

User currently offlineWayfarer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1692 times:

I've seen Barry Bonds play baseball on TV for many years. Look at his long career, maybe a sign of aging? Most MVPs played for at least 20 years.

When he is officially retired from playing, I am sure he will be a coach, then manager, or do the baseball talk on TV.. who knows..

He'll be around for years to come, IMO.


User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 32
Reply 14, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1684 times:

Quoting Wayfarer (Reply 13):
When he is officially retired from playing, I am sure he will be a coach, then manager, or do the baseball talk on TV.. who knows..

Or perhaps a team pharmacist.

Tom at MSY



"The criminal ineptitude makes you furious"-Bruce Springsteen, after seeing firsthand the damage from Hurricane Katrina
User currently offlineGarnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5423 posts, RR: 52
Reply 15, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1683 times:

Quoting Tom in NO (Reply 14):
Or perhaps a team pharmacist.

Pro wrestling, maybe? I mean they give you the steroids for free there.



South Carolina - too small to be its own country, too big to be a mental asylum.
User currently offlineB744F From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1660 times:

Who cares if the guy took steroids? Do you think anyone can take steroids and become one of the best hitters in the game?

User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1657 times:

Quoting Psa53 (Reply 7):

Aaron,Ruth and Mays never
cheated.

And Ruth drank like a fish, smoked like a chimney, and his exercise program consisted of screwing hookers.........


User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 52
Reply 18, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1655 times:

Anyone else feeling sympathy for poor Pedro Gomez of ESPN? He'll have to find a new job that doesn't involve being Barry Bonds' media bitch...

Greg



Chief A.net college football stadium self-pic guru
User currently offlineGarnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5423 posts, RR: 52
Reply 19, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1647 times:

Quoting B744F (Reply 16):
Who cares if the guy took steroids?

Clearly everybody in this thread except you. It casts huge shadows onto the guy's record for one. How much of his records was natural talent and how much was 'roids? Look at Canseco. The man admits he roided up throughout his career and that without steroids he probably would have just been some average player. I say that if Selig had a pair he'd slap down a lifetime ban on Canseco, strip all his records, make him ineligible for the Hall and, in short, treat his entire career as a nonevent. Same thing for the Walking Steroid. Somehow magically he goes from jacking an average of 25 HR/season as a Pirate to 43 HR/season in San Francisco? Especially considering he played 7 years in one of the least homerun friendly ballparks in the majors (Candlestick Park)? I don't buy it for a second and strongly believe that if Bonds returns to baseball (which I hope and pray he never does), we'll see his HR average return to something slightly more human.

One of the best hitters in the game? How can you compare the man to a Ruth or an Aaron or a Maris when, to the very best of our knowledge, their records were untainted by chemical enhancement. It's an insult to the men who wrote the records that Bonds is cheating his way to breaking.



South Carolina - too small to be its own country, too big to be a mental asylum.
User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11447 posts, RR: 75
Reply 20, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1634 times:

We watch sports because as a society we need to see our competitive urges exemplified. We need heroes and examples that can do the things that we cannot, persons that we can cheer and exhort as if they were our friends, people we can emulate in our back yards and park fields and courts, even though we can't match their physical prowess. We need the hope that we, our friends or our progeny can compete in that arena sometime.

Since we have moved beyond gladatorial combat we now have sports that involve different forms of competition as well as differing degrees of violence and various methods to achieve. All of this, however, involves a set of rules designed to make our competitions more civilized than those performed in the Flavian Amphitheatre or the Circus Maximus. Without these rules our sports would naturally devolve into more primitive forms and the potential for death and the level violence would increase as a normal means of increasing the level of competition in order to win. This happens enough with sports such as football and auto racing, to the point that increasing rules must be levied in order to reduce the level of danger to the participants as the speeds of the cars and the sizes of the players continues to increase. Without these rules we could devolve these games we watch into what came before. Our games are a reflection of our society, and supposed to be the best examples of our society.

As a society we also set certain standards and ethics of fair play. By taking these drugs to gain that level of achievement Bonds has diminished its value, and made it artificially difficult for those attempting to follow and cheer. We want to see the men and women who can excel naturally. We lose respect and faith when the sports heroes cheat the system in order to increase their abilities. We lose interest in the records when they are broken by those who cheat, and that causes us to lose interest in the sports themselves and seek to create other diversions. We want honest competition. Not rigged or altered circus acts. We can go to Ringling Brothers, Barnum & Bailey for that.

Today the real heroes are the men and women who put themselves in danger every day, both in the military and here at home. These real heroes who endure real sacrifice of their time, limb and life are not making heroic salaries nor are they becoming internationally famous. They are, however, also looking for their diversions and sports heroes. I think that the people who take the big salaries and accept the societal accolades, especially from the real heroes who are saving our and risking their lives every day here and abroad, should do it right. They should play fair and practice good sportsmanship. Otherwise they should join the Army and learn what the hard life of a real hero is all about.



Is my Pan Am ticket to the moon still good?
User currently offlineLogan22L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1633 times:

Quoting B744F (Reply 16):
Who cares if the guy took steroids?

Isn't there a three strike rule around here somewhere?


User currently offlineBlackbird1331 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1894 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1617 times:

Frankly, my darling, who gives a shit?


Cameras shoot pictures. Guns shoot people. They have the guns.
User currently offlineSlider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6912 posts, RR: 34
Reply 23, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1594 times:

DL021- Post of the week, man. Post of the week.  Smile

Quoting B744F (Reply 16):
Who cares if the guy took steroids? Do you think anyone can take steroids and become one of the best hitters in the game?

Roids will take a guy who already has the hand-eye coordination and make that ball go further. Hence, more HRs. Hence, cheating. Try again.


User currently offlineNonrevman From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1302 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1584 times:

I really hope Bonds does not return to the game. Even if he comes off of steroids, the damage has already been done. His home run total is within easy reach of Babe Ruth and he could still overcome Hank Aaron, even off of the steroids. It would be like driving most of the way up Peaks Peak, walking the last 50 feet, and telling everyone that you climbed the mountain. If he should reach one or both of those benchmarks, there will forever be controversy about how he achieved that. Already, the season record is tainted, so now the all time record is in jeopardy. The sports world will be divided on the issue of the "true" home run champion if Bonds hits over Aaron's total. Therefore, the best thing would be for him to just go away. Ideally, his record (along with everyone else who used steroids) should be removed from the books, but I do not see that happening.

25 B744F : Don't throw this "we" stuff in there. Many of "us" are way beyond our childhood. Cheating? It's just a stupid game, who cares what the guy does? What
26 Logan22L : Dude, your sanctimonious diatribe only plays out so far. Go find a women's support group to bitch to. I'm a liberal, a musician, and a sports nut. I'
27 Garnetpalmetto : I'm inclined to agree with Logan on this. I inherited a love for sports from my dad who went to his grave wishing he'd been able to see the Pirates w
28 N317AS : As Terrance Mann (James Earl Jones) once said in one of my favorite movies, Field of Dreams: "Ray, people will come, Ray. They'll come to Iowa for rea
29 Garnetpalmetto : Easily my favorite piece of dialogue from any movie.
30 Post contains images RODOL : I'm not surprised, he must be in his 50's. He was a great player in his day, but I don't think he will help West Ham's Premiership survival bid.
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